Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I am legit shocked the show is made for adults (with ADHD and Tumblr accounts, but I digress). It looks just like a kids show.
After watching the leaks and a couple of Helluva Boss on YT I feel without a shadow of a doubt, that this is designed for the teenaged mind.
Girls who watch this are going to see how boring the female characters are compared to the hyper sexed yaoi fantasy characters and the poonery is going to quadruple

It's legit concerning.
 
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Vivziepop and her Helluva boss/Hazbin Hotel fans are probably the same faggots on Reddit who think smiling friends is pro-Christian conservative propaganda for mocking nihilism, pro-giving people second chances and being anti-suicide. Not even kidding. These people exist.
people who unironically believe this are retarded but they're also right (I'm pro smiling friends)
 
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Vivziepop and her Helluva boss/Hazbin Hotel fans are probably the same faggots on Reddit who think smiling friends is pro-Christian conservative propaganda for mocking nihilism, pro-giving people second chances and being anti-suicide. Not even kidding. These people exist.
Imagine when they discover that Zach has Corey and Julian as friends and probably had some interactions with Shadman.
 
This is going to get the Snoot Game treatment isn’t it? Only issue is that the disappointed viewers are too diverse and can’t agree on what is a better show (we have SJWs and Religious Christians to name a few who hate the show and want to improve it, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before they collaborate).

Hell, maybe we’ll get multiple “Snoot Games” made by each group of haters? Vivz might’ve spawned a new genre by her shitty Amazon show…
We talked about that earlier in the thread. I posted some of my own character redesigns around and people were saying that I could be in charge of something like a hazbin snoot game. IDK about that but it is something I have thought about for a long time, how I would have done it better and all that. Most of it is really about Angel Dust as he was the thing I liked most about the original pilot for how he seemed to have a lot going on as a character beneath the surface, with his past and family and insecurities, and he also just played off others entertainingly. I mainly thought about how I would work every ship involving him into a plot as part of his character arc, going through relationships like cheap socks and growing from them and how they end.

I've got a general outline for how the lore would go, though:
Heaven's throne is empty.
Nobody in heaven above or hell below has seen or heard from god in centuries.
Satan is doing double duty in heaven, earth, and hell and learning it's not all it's cracked up to be, having lost passion for torturing and testing humanity long since*. Yet, he can't bring himself to truly take the throne, fearing that it may be a trap, that God's apparent absence has been one long gambit, and the moment he perches himself on the throne something very bad will happen.
The denizens of hell have not been informed, they still think heaven is more than the glorified gated-community retirement home it has become, since satan is unable to make a perfect society of spiritually renewed people, he plays it safe and accepts only those unlikely to ever cause trouble. The current state of things is unsustainable;
The armies of heaven and hell have been decimated from war and without god to create new spirits the population is dwindling, while hell reaches an unmanageable capacity of the damned. Thus, a plan has been set in place to end humanity entirely via apocalypse, and then the spiritual realm in its entirety will go quietly with it.
The only hope for humanity and the universe is if it can prove they can change, and improve themselves, and therefore up to the task of managing the affairs of life and death themselves. Charlie's idea for the hotel, which she's been obsessed with since birth, was planted in her mind by Michael to initiate this test of humanity's worthiness.

In this universe, the angels and demons are still sexymen but less extravagantly dressed, and more varied in body type, and their bodies aren't real anyways they're actually just the form they take to interact with human souls. in reality, they're depicted more similar to the angels from "It's a Wonderful Life", you get the sense that none of them take things super seriously but are still unfailingly dutiful as is in an angels nature, though without clear direction, they struggle to find duty to which they can attach themselves.
the twist is that god isn't dead, but has been in hiding, and satan was right, it was part of a gambit, but this is never spelled out, much less what the gambit even is. Only Michael may or may not be receiving orders from him, it's up in the air. God's intentions are unclear and he has no on-screen presence.

*Satan is going the Megamind arc of his initial reason for becoming evil being out of spite for god using him as a pawn, making him the scapegoat in his plan to grant humanity free will in the garden of eden (which he could not admit to himself that he wanted to do), but now that god is gone, and he has "won", he doesn't see the point anymore. In general the tone of the series is nihilistic in a vein similar to hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, where everyone, not just humanity, deals with the same petty inconveniences, frustrations and disinvested existential angst no matter how alien to the human condition they supposedly are.
 
I am legit shocked the show is made for adults (with ADHD and Tumblr accounts, but I digress). It looks just like a kids show.

Its an adult show as in "we can swear and be naughty so lets do it at nauseon". Thats a trope/trap that many adult cartoons end up falling into that ultimately makes them harder to be enjoyed by adults who just dont find the act of swearing by itself funny or edgy (cuz, you know, they grew up).
Vizzie probably envisioned this show as a teen and I dare say her vision didnt change much since. Meanwhile I have ideas too since I was a teen but I spent a good chunk of those years rewriting shit because I would always find something wrong or/and that wouldnt work that well within the normie mainstream.

Also a lot of H.H and H.B fans kind of grew up since the first pilot was released and as consequence their tastes have changed.
After watching the leaks and a couple of Helluva Boss on YT I feel without a shadow of a doubt, that this is designed for the teenaged mind.
Girls who watch this are going to see how boring the female characters are compared to the hyper sexed yaoi fantasy characters and the poonery is going to quadruple

It's legit concerning.

Its one of those "headcanon and fanfictions are better than the real thing" situations we got here, it seems. Vizzie's writing apparently being subpar compared to some of her own fans as they are able to craft versions of her lore that are far more engaging.
 
Imagine when they discover that Zach has Corey and Julian as friends and probably had some interactions with Shadman.
Probably? Shad starred on an episode of their old podcast Sleepycabin and shared his tragic tale of how he got kicked out of university and was interrogated by police for his more violent art + carrying kives around.

It's one of the biggest black marks against that group of animators. The silver lining is that he only showed up once during the podcast's run, thank God.
 
This allegedly the pilot voice actors chatting with each other.
I believe the long name is Krystal LaPorte and shorter names are Ed And Michael.
Ed being the one talking about a diverse cast.

I don't think she fired them because them of who they were friends with. I think she told them that because she didn't want to admit she wanted shiny Broadway stars as friends. What she doesn't seem to realize is that friendships are based on social standings. Sure she's now a Creator hotshot and all but she is physically unattractive. Almost all the new cast are noticably more attractive than her or at the very least look more put together than her.

Noticed that Vivziepop and another guy look out of place in the group. The other guy being the only one that wasn't recast.
 

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Sure she's now a Creator hotshot and all but she is physically unattractive. Almost all the new cast are noticably more attractive than her or at the very least look more put together than her.
She used to look more normal a few years ago but seriously holy shit this looks like californian brainworm skinwalker situation I unironically didn't recognize her for a sec band thought "why is amy schumer front and center here" lmao
 
the 4chan toaster greentext was right yet again.
Which one? Could you post it?

This allegedly the pilot voice actors chatting with each other.
I believe the long name is Krystal LaPorte and shorter names are Ed And Michael.
Ed being the one talking about a diverse cast.
I think the longer name might be Ashley Nichols, given the comments about "being friends with [her] is what got them fired."
 
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She used to look more normal a few years ago but seriously holy shit this looks like californian brainworm skinwalker situation I unironically didn't recognize her for a sec band thought "why is amy schumer front and center here" lmao
Did you see the 10 years ago photo? She was basically your typical fatty nerd girl.
Which can be attractive to a bunch, but not overall.
 
Which one? Could you post it?


I think the longer name might be Ashley Nichols, given the comments about "being friends with [her] is what got them fired."

I found this on Twitter as is.
You are probably right. It is probably Ashley Nichols. It makes more sense that it was her. Most of the Hunicast streams were her, Michael and Ed. I just assumed it was Krystal I thought everyone speaking were the voice actors.

She used to look more normal a few years ago but seriously holy shit this looks like californian brainworm skinwalker situation I unironically didn't recognize her for a sec band thought "why is amy schumer front and center here" lmao
If she loses some damn weight, change her hair to a more flattering shade and didn't do that dumbass pose maybe she wouldn't look so out of place. She's not deformed or anything so it's not like she can't look better. But even with her all dolled up she looks so out of place. If you look at friend groups it tends to make sense. Vivziepop and the new voice actors just don't.
 
The only worthwhile thing Viv ever contributed was that Kesha animation. It's unsurprising Hazbin turned out shit but it's funny it disappeared for so long I actually forgot about it. Genuinely thought the show got scrapped entirely for Helluva.
I generally admire the animation, if not the writing, and she's a job-creator.
 
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