Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Sonya-chan]

Alastor fangirls everywhere unequivocally dislike the new human Alastor design, kek. Everyone assumed he'd look...well...different, based on an old doodle Vivzie drew of him once during a livestream:
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VS: Canon Alastor (quality is shit because it's a leak)

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

VS: Canon Alastor (quality is shit because it's a leak)

I got you fam.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Funny thing is she in a stream stated kids can't go to hell.

Not even Francie Brady?

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

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Honestly probably in the minority here but this is somewhat of an upgrade from the older one. (Bare minimum bc they gave him darker skin i guess lol)

They should’ve made him have a beard and less stick thin

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Honestly probably in the minority here but this is somewhat of an upgrade from the older one. (Bare minimum bc they gave him darker skin i guess lol)

They should’ve made him have a beard and less stick thin

I don’t hate it. The only thing I don’t like is the fact that it’s an obvious retcon to appease twitter far left faggots.

Edit to add: Why does his body fail to exist from chest level down though? There’s a lot of detail in the face/upper torso, but it’s almost as if Viv said ‘fuck it, I’m just drawing mostly straight lines for the remainder of the body’. Where are his hips, his fucking knees?

 

[RavioliHabit]

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What I really don't get is the hair. I think every human we've seen so far who turned into a demon has the same hair shape/character silhouette shape they had when they were alive (Pentious, Angel Dust, Emberlynn and the other humans from Helluva) but somehow Alastor's hair went from this curl pattern to the straight, spiky bob undercut?

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

What I really don't get is the hair. I think every human we've seen so far who turned into a demon has the same hair shape/character silhouette shape they had when they were alive (Pentious, Angel Dust, Emberlynn and the other humans from Helluva) but somehow Alastor's hair went from this curl pattern to the straight, spiky bob undercut?

Because it's obvious Viv didn't want to change Alastor's main design to reflect the fact his design as a human got changed.

 

[make_it_so]

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Can I say it?

There is no way someone that dark skinned would've been given their own radio show in Jim Crow-era Louisiana.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Can I say it?

There is no way someone that dark skinned would've been given their own radio show in Jim Crow-era Louisiana.

My swarthy Libyan ass couldn’t have, and I pass very well for an Italian. The likelihood of someone like Alastor doing so is abysmally low. That being said, I do love how Viv just made him a few shades darker, rather than give him black facial features. If you lightened his skin he’d easily be a white man. From my understanding he’s a quadroon?

 

[make_it_so]

My swarthy Libyan ass couldn’t have, and I pass very well for an Italian. The likelihood of someone like Alastor doing so is abysmally low. That being said, I do love how Viv just made him a few shades darker, rather than give him black facial features. If you lightened his skin he’d easily be a white man. From my understanding he’s a quadroon?

Vivzie said he's "half-Creole" which in itself is meaningless, and she only went down this path when Twitter dumbfucks said Alastor couldn't be white because he offered to make Jambalaya, apparently unaware that it was the fucking white-ass cracker Cajuns that developed the dish in the first place.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Vivzie said he's "half-Creole" which in itself is meaningless, and she only went down this path when Twitter dumbfucks said Alastor couldn't be white because he offered to make Jambalaya, apparently unaware that it was the fucking white-ass cracker Cajuns that developed the dish in the first place.

So half ‘Creole’ would assume he has a white parent and a mixed one, he couldn’t be any more than 1/4th black. He looks mulatto.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Too bad Lucifer gets into a petty one-upping competition with Alastor to prove that is not the case. Unless the point was to show that no matter how powerful you are, pride will lead to you looking no more than a fool.

But who am I kidding? I know that was not the case. Viv just wanted these two to have a musical number with each other without thinking any deeper about the implications. She just wants a visual spectacle. And shipping fuel.

Lucifer needed to be an unbothered aryan rebellious demigod messenger; or perhaps a menacing character that would show that he is much greater than a menacing foe, with soft spots. "Your waif left u" speaks the phony, give me a break, the fandom makes Alastor make him seem like he is the one who should swap with Lucifer. But yes, Pride was Lucifer's main source of misery.

I refuse to talk about "radioapple" because this shit is just retarded. No way the real Lucifer would play ring-around-the-rosie with a serial killer and potential crossdresser from the 1910s/1920s.

Vivzie said he's "half-Creole" which in itself is meaningless, and she only went down this path when Twitter dumbfucks said Alastor couldn't be white because he offered to make Jambalaya, apparently unaware that it was the fucking white-ass cracker Cajuns that developed the dish in the first place.

Or that Santéria, the religion, has White practitioners?

 

[make_it_so]

Or that Santéria, the religion, has White practitioners?

Same with Voodoo, another aspect about Alastor that got the Twitter people's panties in a wad.

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Now that I think about the new human design for Al does make him more Latino than anything. Maybe Viv should’ve made him that way instead of half creole.

 

[AnOminous]

Also barring perhaps Son of Sam, all serial killers have a sexual angle to their killings to some degree so we can also imply that Alastor is most likely a rapist as well.

That's not entirely true. Some serial killers (Son of Sam would be one) substitute the act of killing for actual sexuality, whether due to physical inability to function or some other ritualistic reason. I'll point out even Son of Sam had such a sexual motive, because he specifically targeted couples engaged in sexual relations.

Alastor also has a respecting whammens side to him, as we see in his comic, where he is polite to women and goes into a rage when someone harms one. I would think he was probably a gay asexual, and cannibalism would be the displaced form of his sexuality, and that he probably mainly killed and ate men.

So half ‘Creole’ would assume he has a white parent and a mixed one, he couldn’t be any more than 1/4th black. He looks mulatto.

Creoles really ranged from people who literally just looked white to unambiguously black people, with a fair amount who could pass the "paper bag test" one way or the other. Vivz just didn't think this out very well considering how long she's had this character.

 

[The Nothingness]

Now that I think about the new human design for Al does make him more Latino than anything. Maybe Viv should’ve made him that way instead of half creole.

And have him be a worshipper Santa Muerte.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

I would think he was probably a gay asexual, and cannibalism would be the displaced form of his sexuality, and that he probably mainly killed and ate men.

If I recall correctly Viv said that he’d had sexual encounters with Mimzy while drunk. My experience with repressed gays is that they often become frothing misogynists like our boy Fuentes. Alastor was Viv’s OG husbando, so I personally think part of her reasoning to make him asexual was to keep the fangirls at bay. Otherwise he’d be run of the mill straight.

Edit to save a double post:

On the topic of Creoles, they could literally be just white. A French/Spanish mix is just as Creole as a French/African mix. I’m assuming Alastor has African ancestry, in which it would be impossible for him to have more than a quarter based on Viv’s description.

 

[The tired cat]

Lucifer needed to be an unbothered aryan rebellious demigod messenger; or perhaps a menacing character that would show that he is much greater than a menacing foe, with soft spots. "Your waif left u" speaks the phony, give me a break, the fandom makes Alastor make him seem like he is the one who should swap with Lucifer. But yes, Pride was Lucifer's main source of misery.

The pilot did kinda give the impression that Lucifer was gonna be the antagonist, while Lilith was gonna be a mo supportive character to Charlie.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

The pilot did kinda give the impression that Lucifer was gonna be the antagonist, while Lilith was gonna be a mo supportive character to Charlie.

That unless they make "Lucifer was the villain all along", with a "I was pretending to be retarded" plot. Not sure what they are going for, but let's hope a payout can be good.

 

[The tired cat]

That unless they make "Lucifer was the villain all along", with a "I was pretending to be retarded" plot. Not sure what they are going for, but let's hope a payout can be good.

Eh, I doubt it. Most I think we'll get is how Lucifer DID plan to start a 2nd war, but when Charlie was born he abandoned those ideas, while Roo/Eve never did as she wanted to have revenge on Heaven and Hell at the same time.