Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Sometimes this thread disappears from my watched threads. Even the thread itself gave up. Love it.
Honestly, most fans are slowly giving up. I would imagine it would be tiring defending every aspect of a show that has more plotholes then a broken condom or swiss cheese. Like, anyone ever wonders how Viv passed High School since English is a required grade to pass. They teach you in school how to write. I gave up on even trying to make sense on this show ages ago. Viv isn't even that interesting, she is like a robot. Repeating the same dead points and retconning parts of her show off platform instead of taking the Ls.
 
Can't help but feel for Viv here since she really doesn't like that kids are in her panels

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This was posted over in Viv's dedicated thread. It's from a Tumblr anon who claims to work for a con organizer, so take it with a few grains of salt, but tbh it sounds like something Viv would do.

tl;dr, con organizer repeatedly asks if Viv wants to make her HH/HB panels 18+, she says no, it'll be PG-13 at most, then repeatedly rugpulls them with adult content to the point that they've enforced 18+ wristbands on her panels as often as they can ever since.

The first time Viv was at one of our cons, it was a helluva panel, scheduled for 5:30 pm time slot. Viv complained insisting on a 1pm it was more convenient for her team. Someone allowed it, because Viv's team informed us, that while it's an adult show, the panels don't get graphic or they keep it PG or sometimes PG13 which is 'rare.' This is a lie. They played a clip of an upcoming episode right off the bat Blitzo makes a sex joke and there's a lot of language. It raised concerns after some teenagers attended the panel, got a few complaints from parents that took their teens.

Second Con of ours a different one, that approved Viv to be there enforced a later time slot no exceptions, we ask Morgana or whoever it was speaking for Viv if we should make the panel 18+ only considering the last one. They insist that it's not needed, explain what they plan on doing for it, what they'll discuss, and showed us the clip of the episode they planned on playing ahead of time. This clip was tame, it sounded like a PG-13 panel. Panel happens, they switch the clip on us last minute, Brandon takes a question too far, etc. Other cons with us we make Helluva panels later some we're able to get away enforcing 18+ some aren't due to complaints from Viv&co.

2024 hazbin comes out, they want both a Helluva and a Hazbin panel, they have not had a Hazbin panel with us, but this is around the time that one 9 year old asked a question at Galaxy Con, to protect us, we make both wristband only.

TLDR: Cons can manage depending on organizer, usually at guest request, Viv's team lies a lot and prevents it from being done.

If this is true, she has the power to stop this happening anytime she wants, but she whines, complains, and lies her way out of it and then has the temerity to act surprised when people bring their kids in anyway.
 
If this is true, she has the power to stop this happening anytime she wants, but she whines, complains, and lies her way out of it and then has the temerity to act surprised when people bring their kids in anyway.

She's the boss. She should really be restricting this to 18+ and very firmly disallowing people who bring in minors with a stern, hard "no."

Strange for someone who is supposedly aligning with the female empowerment crowd. Being in power requires the ability to say "yes" or "no" and standing your ground.


No wonder she instead made Helluva Boss a drama where Blitzo stays a sex-obsessed freakshow with so many problems instead of acting like an actual boss. I think it's because she herself cannot act like one.
 
She's the boss. She should really be restricting this to 18+ and very firmly disallowing people who bring in minors with a stern, hard "no."

Strange for someone who is supposedly aligning with the female empowerment crowd. Being in power requires the ability to say "yes" or "no" and standing your ground.


No wonder she instead made Helluva Boss a drama where Blitzo stays a sex-obsessed freakshow with so many problems instead of acting like an actual boss. I think it's because she herself cannot act like one.
Viv, like Charlie, probably sees using her authority as "mean" and just expects people to do things with no resistance.
 
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Viv, like Charlie, probably sees using her authority as "mean" and just expects people to do things with no resistance.
Either that or this chick is really worried some of these guys will go "Okay, hasta la manana bitch" and will walk on her ass, since they can prob nail themselves jobs in other indie animations or maybe even legit VA work. An if that happens, Viv will need to scramble to find VAs that sound similar to ones that walked.
 
It was covered on the ViviePop thread, but not here.

I am getting tired of the media literacy crowd that think they are so smart for analyzing real world events to fictional shows. It started with "Simpsons predicted X" and now you stuff like Hazbin and Netflix DMC.

Then you have those missing the forest through the trees like in the chicken flu episode of Boondocks. You got comments saying, "This is just like COVID!" only to miss the important detail of how the government and media will whip people up into a panic over something that is not as deadly as it's made to be.


 
It was covered on the ViviePop thread, but not here.

I am getting tired of the media literacy crowd that think they are so smart for analyzing real world events to fictional shows. It started with "Simpsons predicted X" and now you stuff like Hazbin and Netflix DMC.

Then you have those missing the forest through the trees like in the chicken flu episode of Boondocks. You got comments saying, "This is just like COVID!" only to miss the important detail of how the government and media will whip people up into a panic over something that is not as deadly as it's made to be.


Could you post a link so I don’t have to scour through pages just to find it?
 
On one hand I can get that having a creation have an unintentional message could be annoying especially to perception of what you want to create, especially as Vivziepop isn't like Eric Kripke who intentionally makes every character in The Boys stand-ins for real political figures.

On the other hand, Vivzie did not need to overshare this and even then with benefit of the doubt here, wouldn't this make her villain more effective. A lot of good villains can come from some sense of that evil being present in the real world but from what I've noticed, Vivzie wants her villains to be super silly at the same time with no sense of discomfort like with how she wrote Striker and Andre. Its why Vivzie's better villains in her shows are characters that were intentionally meant to not be in angst scenes like Mammon and the DHORKs.
 
I finally watched a few episodes of HB after reading this thread forever and now I feel qualified enough to share weird fanart with everyone else
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Yes, that's a head scar and broken horn. Yes, it means exactly what you think it does.
I hate that I instantly understood the reference
 
I finally watched a few episodes of HB after reading this thread forever and now I feel qualified enough to share weird fanart with everyone else
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Yes, that's a head scar and broken horn. Yes, it means exactly what you think it does.
I won't lie, I still like that Jojo comic where it takes the piss on this premise.
 
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