He Man Reboot Announced

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The soyalorian said:
I hate almost everything about this, I'm not a huge fan of He-man but I watched and enjoyed it so seeing soy male feminist shit all over it is just sad.

The She-Ra reboot was bad but they at least didn't pull this super disrespectful bait-and-switch, it's funny how both He-Man and She-Ra will be for girls because I guess boys can't have shit nowadays.

Anyways I said "I hate almost everything", I have to admit that Ultimate Skeletor's design is pretty bad ass but I wish it was for a dream sequence or was like a fan made Bad End Friend because then it would be detached from this awful plot.


Why do you make a point that if someone was there to take He-Man's mantle it would be better? It's funny how you bring up Batman as an example because DC already kind of did something like this and it was awful.
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Well, Batwoman is a spin-off to Batman rather than replacing Batman but that show has issues before the change of casting. But DC has replaced Bruce Wayne as Batman before, with Dick Grayson run as Batman being very well-liked which is pretty much the bar for any of this stuff. But my point was less with quality more to do with brand management, He-Man is the Masters of the Universe brand, if you remove him you are taking away the reason most people are watching, if they had a new character that is now a new He-Man it would at least make sense brand management wise compared to this, now I can't or won't say it would be better on a quality level.
 
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Product Placement said:
Well, Batwoman is a spin-off to Batman rather than replacing Batman but that show has issues before the change of casting. But DC has replaced Bruce Wayne as Batman before, with Dick Grayson run as Batman being very well-liked which is pretty much the bar for any of this stuff. But my point was less with quality more to do with brand management, He-Man is the Masters of the Universe brand, if you remove him you are taking away the reason most people are watching, if they had a new character that is now a new He-Man it would at least make sense brand management wise compared to this, now I can't or won't say it would be better on a quality level.
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I don't know, I see where you're coming from but it would still be disrespectful especially if the replacement was some dikey lesbian.

You can built up to a good replacement like giving He-Man a apprentice that becomes like family to him or have this be a alternate universe with another main character, alternate universes are unsteady water but if you pulled it off well it could be very interesting to see the familiar become unfamiliar.

Either it's the first season of a reboot, killing the main character off unceremoniously is bad either way.
 
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Boston Brand said:
How is Hollywood so bad at this? Why bother with IP at all if you're not going to use them? Haven't they seen the faithful adaptations always do better than the deconstructions?
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Different priorities. Look at [current year] Star Trek vs The Orville, one is made by people who either worked on that genre or grew up with it and the other is made by people who hate that genre and just want to use the brand for their socio-political agenda.
 
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RumblyTumbly said:
"Smith has crafted a story that puts the female characters front and center and it empowers these individuals in a way that the original series never did"

That is so insulting to the original, I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, some of the best episodes of the classic series are the ones that focused on the female characters. Teela got some of the very best spotlight episodes (Teela's Quest, Teela's Triumph, and The Witch and The Warrior), The Sorceress was one of the few characters to get an origin story (Origin of the Sorceress), and The Rainbow Warrior elevated Queen Marlena and created one of the most memorable episodes. And then on the villains side, Evil Lyn had several stories where she was the primary focus (Evil Lyn's Plot, The Witch and the Warrior, No Job to Small, The Shaping Staff, Ordeal in the Darklands, Journey to Stone City, The Littlist Giant, Revenge is Never Sweet) and she had several episodes where she acted independently of Skeletor as well (Eternal Darkness and The Defection).

And that is to say nothing for all the different female side characters that were not toy based and proved to be great guest stars in the show. These include Kittrina, Shokoti, Lady Valtira, Celice, Hawk, Una, Queen Elmora, and Major Andrea Steele.

The idea that the old show held its female characters back and that this show is remedying that is assinine. I would argue that the old show made Teela, Evil Lyn, & The Sorceress icons of the franchise, and the show also created a bunch of female characters that became favorites despite not having toys themselves.

Its ridiculous and I hate this pandering nonsense.
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The 1980s attitudes about women is fascinating to contrast with today, the 1980s was all about macho, hyper masculine men, but they didn't put down women either, you still had female characters like Ripley in Aliens, I mean heck, you even had a show like The Golden Girls.

The Woke really like to stereotype the 80s as something it was not, it was a culture that dared to *gasp* celebrate and appreciate masculinity, but because it wasn't a culture run by cultural Marxists you didn't have the "oppressor and oppressed" mindset where they felt like they could only celebrate masculinity by putting down femininity, which the Woke seem to think you can only celebrate femininity by putting down masculinity.
 
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Miller said:
Different priorities. Look at [current year] Star Trek vs The Orville, one is made by people who either worked on that genre or grew up with it and the other is made by people who hate that genre and just want to use the brand for their socio-political agenda.
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Hate the genre..........you Kiwi Farmers are so dumb🤦
 
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Dom Cruise said:
The 1980s attitudes about women is fascinating to contrast with today, the 1980s was all about macho, hyper masculine men, but they didn't put down women either, you still had female characters like Ripley in Aliens, I mean heck, you even had a show like The Golden Girls.

The Woke really like to stereotype the 80s as something it was not, it was a culture that dared to *gasp* celebrate and appreciate masculinity, but because it wasn't a culture run by cultural Marxists you didn't have the "oppressor and oppressed" mindset where they felt like they could only celebrate masculinity by putting down femininity, which the Woke seem to think you can only celebrate femininity by putting down masculinity.
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Because most of them weren't around for the 80s.
 
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RumblyTumbly said:
How much you wanna bet that first picture is just a prelude to Adam being judo flipped?
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100% right.

As someone who never watched the original that this is a sequel to, just watching for the nice looking animation: Teela is such a whiny little bitch in this show. Christ.

"No one told me Adam was He-Man? I can't trust anyone. Fuck my duty! Fuck this planet! EVERYONE BETRAY ME!"

"Magical artifacts are rather valuable these days."
"Magic is stupid, the worst. I hate magic. Everyone relies too much on magic. What has magic ever done for us? God, I hate magic."
I seriously don't get her hate boner for magic.

"Teela, the universe will literally die if we don't reforge the sword and restore magic."
"Urg, I left to get away from magic. I don't wanna help! Let the universe die."

"I'm done being a hero. All those dumb secrets and MAAAAGIC. I mean, what were we really fighting for?"
I dunno, Teela, I assumed you were fighting to stop Jack Skeleton's swole cousin from taking over the world.

"Most people fear being ordinary, but you... You fear how special you are."
Her fear is literally being too special. Are you fucking kidding me?

Even when she reunites with a dear friend, Adam, who's been dead for years she can't even act happy to see him or go 'Nice to see you again, Buddy'.
"You lied to me Adam, you can stay dead for all I care! I never knew the real you."
He lied about doubling as a super stripper that helped protect the Universe, that's it. Get the fuck over it. It's not like He-Man and Adam had much of a personality shift or something.

Hell, she's more happy to see Black King Grayskull (isn't the He-Man form supposed to be the form of Grayskull?) than her friend.

"I was so mad at you, but you weren't there for me to yell at."
"I died."
"Yeah, but WE had to live with it."
Oh, I'm sorry, did Adam sacrificing himself to protect all of existence from exploding inconvenience you?

It isn't until Adam sacrifices his place in the afterlife that she finally starts treating him decently. And of course, she doesn't have to do anything to make up for being such a colossal ass who basically abandoned the world to it's fate until the Evil Lyn tricked her into coming back to Grayskull.
 
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TheAmbiguousLurker said:
100% right.

As someone who never watched the original that this is a sequel to, just watching for the nice looking animation: Teela is such a whiny little bitch in this show. Christ.

"No one told me Adam was He-Man? I can't trust anyone. Fuck my duty! Fuck this planet! EVERYONE BETRAY ME!"

"Magical artifacts are rather valuable these days."
"Magic is stupid, the worst. I hate magic. Everyone relies too much on magic. What has magic ever done for us? God, I hate magic."
I seriously don't get her hate boner for magic.

"Teela, the universe will literally die if we don't reforge the sword and restore magic."
"Urg, I left to get away from magic. I don't wanna help! Let the universe die."

"I'm done being a hero. All those dumb secrets and MAAAAGIC. I mean, what were we really fighting for?"
I dunno, Teela, I assumed you were fighting to stop Jack Skeleton's swole cousin from taking over the world.

"Most people fear being ordinary, but you... You fear how special you are."
Her fear is literally being too special. Are you fucking kidding me?

Even when she reunites with a dear friend, Adam, who's been dead for years she can't even act happy to see him or go 'Nice to see you again, Buddy'.
"You lied to me Adam, you can stay dead for all I care! I never knew the real you."
He lied about doubling as a super stripper that helped protect the Universe, that's it. Get the fuck over it. It's not like He-Man and Adam had much of a personality shift or something.

Hell, she's more happy to see Black King Grayskull (isn't the He-Man form supposed to be the form of Grayskull?) than her friend.

"I was so mad at you, but you weren't there for me to yell at."
"I died."
"Yeah, but WE had to live with it."
Oh, I'm sorry, did Adam sacrificing himself to protect all of existence from exploding inconvenience you?

It isn't until Adam sacrifices his place in the afterlife that she finally starts treating him decently. And of course, she doesn't have to do anything to make up for being such a colossal ass who basically abandoned the world to it's fate until the Evil Lyn tricked her into coming back to Grayskull.
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See, this shit makes me cheer for the bad guys. If this bitch is supposed to be the hero, then I'd rather let the entire setting die before giving her even one win.
 
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I feel bad for the animators and voice cast; as there's obviously some great talent there, just being wasted on appalling screenwriting and decision-making.

I really don't know what compels these people to sabotage so many past franchises. Is it spite, incompetence, or both? Either way, to say there is a famine of talented and prominent screenwriters in the west would be the understatement of the millennium.
 
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Auntie Fester said:
I feel bad for the animators and voice cast; as there's obviously some great talent there, just being wasted on appalling screenwriting and decision-making.

I really don't know what compels these people to sabotage so many past franchises. Is it spite, incompetence, or both? Either way, to say there is a famine of talented and prominent screenwriters in the west would be the understatement of the millennium.
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We're in a weird cultural moment where the present has declared war on the past, the past is the enemy that must be destroyed.

I think part of the reason why this is happening is for a long time we had to hear about people wax nostalgic about the "good old days" which especially ramped up in the 2000s, it's ironic now, but I remember back then you had a lot of cynical people that hated anything new and would only ever go on about how much better the past was, so now we have people defensively saying "no, NOW is the best time there ever was! And we're gonna prove it by retroactively ruining everything you love!"

To some degree we are too addicted to nostalgia, which I think is what Rian Johnson was trying to say with The Last Jedi, but purposely ruining things is not the way to go about it, how about trying to give people satisfying closure for these franchises so we can move on instead of shitting on them?
 
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Miller said:
Do you really think that Alex Kurtzman likes science-fiction and Trek?
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If he does, its in a surface level way. He likes the "pew pew" and awesome star ships blowing stuff up aspect of Sci-Fi or Star Trek, and clearly doesn't understand what sets Trek apart from other Sci-Fi and what its about.
 
Dom Cruise said:
The 1980s attitudes about women is fascinating to contrast with today, the 1980s was all about macho, hyper masculine men, but they didn't put down women either, you still had female characters like Ripley in Aliens, I mean heck, you even had a show like The Golden Girls.
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Back in the 1980's people understood that women and men were different, with strengths and weaknesses, virtues and vices both. They also recognized that the sexes were complimentary, and worked best together to bring out each other's most virtuous qualities. Both sexes were celebrated for their strengths, treated with respect, and given agency.

Even the excessive, almost decadent exaggerations of that era were based in admiration of a core truth. Sometimes gaudy and in poor taste they might have been, they were earnest portrayals made in good faith.

Everything these days is made by people with a bitter hatred of truth, and that meanness of spirit infects everything they do.
 
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