The 1980s attitudes about women is fascinating to contrast with today, the 1980s was all about macho, hyper masculine men, but they didn't put down women either, you still had female characters like Ripley in Aliens, I mean heck, you even had a show like The Golden Girls.
The Woke really like to stereotype the 80s as something it was not, it was a culture that dared to *gasp* celebrate and appreciate masculinity, but because it wasn't a culture run by cultural Marxists you didn't have the "oppressor and oppressed" mindset where they felt like they could only celebrate masculinity by putting down femininity, which the Woke seem to think you can only celebrate femininity by putting down masculinity.
I agree looking back at the 80s. There role models for both men and women equally despite what whiney lefties say. Compare to now with only girls are allowed to have good role models. Well boys can not with the exception of beta soyboys.
We're in a weird cultural moment where the present has declared war on the past, the past is the enemy that must be destroyed.
I think part of the reason why this is happening is for a long time we had to hear about people wax nostalgic about the "good old days" which especially ramped up in the 2000s, it's ironic now, but I remember back then you had a lot of cynical people that hated anything new and would only ever go on about how much better the past was, so now we have people defensively saying "no, NOW is the best time there ever was! And we're gonna prove it by retroactively ruining everything you love!"
To some degree we are too addicted to nostalgia, which I think is what Rian Johnson was trying to say with The Last Jedi, but purposely ruining things is not the way to go about it, how about trying to give people satisfying closure for these franchises so we can move on instead of shitting on them?
I understand the Last Jedi's message a little letting the past die meaning let nostalgia go and let some things just have good closures. It's easy to miss with all the mess in the movie.
Back in the 1980's people understood that women and men were different, with strengths and weaknesses, virtues and vices both. They also recognized that the sexes were complimentary, and worked best together to bring out each other's most virtuous qualities. Both sexes were celebrated for their strengths, treated with respect, and given agency.
Even the excessive, almost decadent exaggerations of that era were based in admiration of a core truth. Sometimes gaudy and in poor taste they might have been, they were earnest portrayals made in good faith.
Everything these days is made by people with a bitter hatred of truth, and that meanness of spirit infects everything they do.
I agree. As someone said above Golden Girls. I watch an episode lately. It was the episode where Dorothy's daughter gets married and her ex-husband comes for the wedding. That episode ending where she rightfully puts him in his place for how he ended their long term marriage by a Lawer and just leaving. Was awsome in my opinion. The fact that there are people who say that there were no good role models for girls in the 80s and ignoring stuff like that. Is just insane.
And boys had awsome role models as well.
It sucks that boys aren't allowed to have role models anymore and girls get crappy ones like a lesbain character who ends up with a abuser and Kamala Harris.
Holy shit it's bad. Teela literally rage quits and acts like the embodiment of the standard woke feminist the rest of the series. Episode 1 is literally a bait and switch. Everything promising more classic He-Man is from episode 1.
It's not only masculinity that has been gutted here, even feminine quality has been reduced in favor of this matriarchal androgynous trend.
Jesus H. Christ Kevin Smith. This is a disaster that'll be a joke the rest of your career. I fully expect the usual suspects to Last Jedi this.
So far, this is like The Death and Return of Superman...except that Lois Lane's first act after Superman's death is to walk right up to the grieving Pa and Ma Kent and tell them to fuck off.
Ugh why? I mean we already know he comes back to life. It's a common trope (but people are still falling for it somehow) but for the first episode it's a bit...dumb.
On the other hand, even if he "died" in a later episode people would still be butthurt so perhaps it should have happened in season two. Season 1 should be He-Man in action doing campy He-Man stuff.
...Also they are going to make He-Man a raging fag aren't they? Because "representation".
Holy shit it's bad. Teela literally rage quits and acts like the embodiment of the standard woke feminist the rest of the series. Episode 1 is literally a bait and switch. Everything promising more classic He-Man is from episode 1.
It's not only masculinity that has been gutted here, even feminine quality has been reduced in favor of this matriarchal androgynous trend.
Jesus H. Christ Kevin Smith. This is a disaster that'll be a joke the rest of you career. I fully expect the usual suspects to Last Jedi this.
I can't think of anyone who's fallen so far and as hard in recent memory as Kevin Smith. I get the feeling he'd get his head kicked in in his old neighbourhood.
Whelp, looks like the only modern reboots that respect the source material are still just Ducktales, Cobra Kai and the Creed/Rocky movies.
How is Hollywood so bad at this? Why bother with IP at all if you're not going to use them? Haven't they seen the faithful adaptations always do better than the deconstructions?
Hollywood has basically always been this way, quite honestly. I mean, this is especially true with videogame movies. A lot of the time though, those were just scripts that were broken apart to fit the title.
Its become fashionable in Hollywood to hate on long-term fans of literally anything. Like it doesn't matter what it is. Barbie Dolls? GI Joe? He Man? She Ra? Fuck it, we'll open our asshole and ruin it ALL. HAHAHA, EAT IT YOU FILTHY FUCKING PLEBS, EAT IT.
Also, reminder, Hollywood is the centralized ground-zero of our narcissistic, self-centered bubble culture. These people live in this bubble surrounded by like-minded people and can no longer relate to the fan. They're all chasing after the 'young' audience, while using the property as a name recognition hook to draw them in. The problem is the young audience is going to like something for the same reason as the older audience, so they basically push trash that is for nobody at all.
Young people aren't watching Netflix cartoons. They're busy reading manga and watching anime. They don't watch Western cartoons. So you getting the young audience is already fucked. Nobody is going to trade Death Note or Berserk for fucking He-Man. So that audience is already out of your grasp. The older audience wants to see He-Man, they don't want new characters or whatever the fuck it is you're offering. So that, again, is out the window. You've lost them.
So the only thing that's left is...you and your friends. By in large, that's basically what Hollywood entertainment is nowadays. They use IPs to MAYBE get some profit while they make circle-jerk nonsense that only suits a small minority on Twitter and themselves. You ask why don't they make anything original? Just think about these people attempting to make something on their fucking own. It would all be self inserts of them and their friends and imagined boogeymen that don't actually exist, because they are self-centered fucking losers who can't create shit. Their 'original' shit would be laughed at, mocked and ignored.
Eventually though, they're going to run out of properties. We've already begun scraping the bottom of the barrel.
The biggest issue with the show is that they chose to center the story on Teela, and she is the worst written character by a country mile. It feels like character assassination what they did to her.
They took Teela, a strong and heroic character, and made her a whiny, angry, and petulant jerk. Adam dies, she finds out his secret, and she decides to just give up on everything, including her adoptive father. She just rage quit, which not only makes her look like a quitter of Last Jedi Luke Skywalker proportions, but also justified Adam's decision to not tell her his secret. When your reaction is to just abandon everything and tell everyone to fuck off, then yeah, I'd be hesitant to tell you too.
They also write her as undeserving of her position. The show starts with her being knighted as "Man-At-Arms" and then later they need Duncan, a weapons master, to reforge the sword....but Teela...YOU ARE MAN-AT-ARMS NOW! You mean they gave you the title of Man-At-Arms when you aren't fully qualified to take it? There is a joke to be made there about modern politics, but I'll leave that alone. She also claims to "Know everything about Grayskull" and turns out to know shockingly little about it (even outside of Adam's secret). Also...her greatest fear is being special? Fuck off. And then she gets ready to kill Evil Lyn and break the alliance with absolutely no provocation. Its like...the fuck is wrong with her?
Also, the story relies alot on your preestablished knowledge of MOTU, so if you're not a fan, you'll be lost, but then it deviates from it at weird points which will only make MOTU fans go "Huh?". Since when is Moss Man a denezen of Castle Grayskull? Why is Beast Man a simp for Evil Lyn? Why are Subternia and Preternia recontextualized as heaven and hell. And why is Orko upset about being the least of his people when the original show clearly showed that he was actually one of the best magicians from his world (He was called Orko the Great for God's sake!). Why is Castle Grayskull a hologram for the Hall of Wisdom?
The final insult?
We FINALLY get He-Man back only for him to DIE AGAIN at the tail end. So they took He-Man away, brought him back, and killed him again all in the span of 5 episodes. Fuck you I'm out.
The whole thing is a damn shame too because the animation and look of the show is good, the voice cast is mostly great, and even some of the ideas are interesting. Hell, I'll go a long with a "What would happen if He-Man and Skeletor were removed from Eternia?" story. But the story they gave us is messy and centered on an unlikable character. My three favorite characters from the old show were Skeletor, Battle Cat, and He-Man...all three of them are barely in the show, and the story they gave us doesn't justify that decision. Great, thanks, I hate it.
There are glimpses of the show this could have been but the writing drags it down severely.
And goddamn it, you want a drinking game? Take a shot every time one of the characters says "Magic". You'll be dead by episode 3.
The biggest issue with the show is that they chose to center the story on Teela, and she is the worst written character by a country mile. It feels like character assassination what they did to her.
They took Teela, a strong and heroic character, and made her a whiny, angry, and petulant jerk. Adam dies, she finds out his secret, and she decides to just give up on everything, including her adoptive father. She just rage quit, which not only makes her look like a quitter of Last Jedi Luke Skywalker proportions, but also justified Adam's decision to not tell her his secret. When your reaction to just abandon everything and tell everyone to fuck off, then yeah, I'd be hesitant to tell you too.
They also write her as undeserving of her position. The show starts with her being knighted as "Man-At-Arms" and then later they need Duncan, a weapons master, to reforge the sword....but Teela...YOU ARE MAN-AT-ARMS NOW! You mean they gave you the title of Man-At-Arms when you aren't fully qualified to take it? There is a joke to be made there about modern politics, but I'll leave that alone. She also claims to "Know everything about Grayskull" and turns out to know shockingly little about it (even outside of Adam's secret). Also...her greatest fear is being special? Fuck off. And then she gets ready to kill Evil Lyn and break the alliance with absolutely no provocation. Its like...the fuck is wrong with her?
Also, the story relies alot on your preestablished knowledge of MOTU, so if you're not a fan, you'll be lost, but then it deviates from it at weird points which will only make MOTU fans go "Huh?". Since when is Moss Man a denezen of Castle Grayskull? Why is Beast Man a simp for Evil Lyn? Why are Subternia and Preternia recontextualized as heaven and hell. And why is Orko upset about being the least of his people when the original show clearly showed that he was actually one of the best magicians from his world (He was called Orko the Great for God's sake!). Why is Castle Grayskull a hologram for the Hall of Wisdom?
The final insult?
We FINALLY get He-Man back only for him to DIE AGAIN at the tail end. So they took He-Man away, brought him back, and killed him again all in the span of 5 episodes. Fuck you I'm out.
The whole thing is a damn shame too because the animation and look of the show is good, the voice cast is mostly great, and even some of the ideas are interesting. Hell, I'll go a long with a "What would happen if He-Man and Skeletor were removed from Eternia?" story. But the story they gave us is messy and centered on an unlikable character. My three favorite characters from the old show were Skeletor, Battle Cat, and He-Man...all three of them are barely in the show, and the story they gave us doesn't justify that decision. Great, thanks, I hate it.
There are glimpses of the show this could have been but the writing drags it down severely.
And goddamn it, you want a drinking game? Take a shot every time one of the characters says "Magic". You'll be dead by episode 3.
You can tell these Hollywood writers have never met an actual well adjusted woman in their lives. When they aren't overtly male characters with superficial female attributes they are all without exception narcissistic bitches. Kinda like the average Hollywood celebrity now that I think about it.
These hacks are completely incapable to writing a story outside their own lived experience. To be fair, that is all art schools are teaching these days, and it fucking shows. The "lived experience" of the typical Hollywood personage is absolutely garbage and uninteresting. Which means their shows are garbage and uninteresting. They don't even have the talent to make their cult propaganda subtle anymore.
Its like they want to wage war with their customers. People wanted a He-man show, why not give them that? You can insert you strong female characters, just have He-man as the protagonist and nobody would be complaing. I mean, its a reboot of a children cartoon from the 80s, no need to be "subversive", and its no longer subersive because everyone is doing it. I think eventually characters in the action adventure genres will be amorphous blobs of muscle with some caracters having long hair.
Holy shit, how do you fuck up He-Man of all things? He's the leading guy that could some incredible stuff, but he definitely couldn't have done everything without other character like Teela, Man at Arms, etc. Straight up though, I don't know who this roid creature is and why they're calling it Teela
Hell, I'll go a long with a "What would happen if He-Man and Skeletor were removed from Eternia?" story. But the story they gave us is messy and centered on an unlikable character.
I think that's the big thing for me. This arc (sans killing he-man a second time) could have totally worked it farther along in the story once we got to know their versions of the characters a little more and if Teela was closer to something like her 2002 counterpart.
