Helldivers 2 - Hell is more diverse than ever as PlayStation's demographics continue to grow and change.

i have finally come around to the "bugdivers are crayon eating retards" position. i have never once been intentionally teamkilled on a botdive, but it just happened twice on two separate bug missions, one of them a level 10 mission.
I once had a bugdiver teammate hijack my exo-suit, get it blown up in less than 2 minutes, team killed me, and spent the rest of the match taking pot shots at me and some of the other teammates. Than at extraction he kicked me (and I assume everyone else).

Bot missions are the only fun missions, or illuminate missions. You will only have a shitty time on bug missions from my experience. Let the Terminids have their half of the galaxy we don't need it anyway.
I like Automatons and Illuminate because I prefer a shooting match, instead of just slapping on a drone and kiting them. I think the Illuminate do the enemy swarm better than Terminids anyway.

And everyone on the bug front is huffing gasoline, but c'est la vie.
Hell, some of the armors' descriptions even mention the armors being issued to or purchaseable by civilians.
The super credit store's reviews seem to treat buying the military's equipment like its an Amazon, though you do see some of the reviews get redacted by Super Earth.
 
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The funny thing is that as satirical as Super Earth is there have been far worse regimes in real life. Every man woman and child seems adequately fed and cared for, all while the SEAF and Helldivers both are adequately armed and provided with high quality armamants, ordinance, and other materiel on a scale far beyond even Earth's entire population currently. Realistically the quality of life of the average person is as high as the average first worlder today, and on a galactic scale easily dwarfing the entire population of every human to have ever lived up until now, probably by several factors of 10. Plus with how militaristic Super Earth is, with every civilian being provided a state-issued rifle at 16 (a rifle powerful enough to reliably kill a Helldiver in full armor, not to mention) implies a shocking degree of trust between the government and its populace. There is also nothing stating that other weapons such as Liberators can't be privately owned by a civilian. Super Earth isn't real, obviously. But the fact the federation has stayed unified implies they are doing something right. Surveillance and a powerful military can only get you so far when the citizenry still outnumbers your government personel by several factors of 10, and you're arming them. Hell, some of the armors' descriptions even mention the armors being issued to or purchaseable by civilians. The more I think about Super Earth the more I realize arrowhead is kind of retarded and just threw everything they thought was 'bad' into a melting pot (but still appeasing daddy Sony by making Super Earth racially diverse and in support of gay marriage). Just goes to show you really can't parody something you hate.

...Now it's gotten me thinking, what if instead they made Helldivers (the game) into an in-universe propaganda advert where the battles players fight aren't quite accurate to ehat it id really like out there. Super Earth likes to depict four men thwarting entire enemy campaigns but through small lore details the cracks of how awful things really are can be seen by players interested in the small details. Every 'on-screen' death represents millions. One devastator effortlessly destroyed by some stray liberator fire represents a murderous 9 foot tall walking tank of solid steel shrugging off small arms fire as enlisted teenagers desperately try to stop its advance with their peashooter rifles.
Well, if you played the game last summer from around may through august, all the weapons WERE peashooters. It was so lame the game almost died. Glad that it got fixed.
 
I once had a bugdiver teammate hijack my exo-suit, get it blown up in less than 2 minutes, team killed me, and spent the rest of the match taking pot shots at me and some of the other teammates. Than at extraction he kicked me (and I assume everyone else).
These people encouraged me to host my own matches. If anyone's being a tard they get the boot. Only had to do it once so far thankfully
 
The super credit store's reviews seem to treat buying the military's equipment like its an Amazon, though you do see some of the reviews get redacted by Super Earth.
Oh yeah. Arrowhead probably thinks 'guns = bad' so in their depiction of a horrible fascist evil mean and everything bad future I'm sure civilians could amass and arm themselves with scorchers, eruptors, arc throwers, laser cannons, railguns, and more and stop Exosuits dead or blow Pelicans out of the sky because again, 'guns = bad'. Not to mention Helldivers have no training because they are supposed to be disposable. So 10 Joe schmoes armed with Liberators and surplus B-01 tactical is roughly equal to 10 Helldivers. What's the cutoff? Anti gun retards like to facetiously ask "should people be able to buy nukes privately?" So I'm sure citizens have means to requisition ship-ship weapons and heavy ordinance to retrofit civilians ships for guerilla space combat or bombardment. Hey by the way has anyone stopped to realize that exchanging 20-30 (at most) men for thousands of enemy units consistently is actually an extremely good outcome? Jeez the more I think about this the more I start to realize how miserably Arrowhead failed lmao.
 
Plus with how militaristic Super Earth is, with every civilian being provided a state-issued rifle at 16 (a rifle powerful enough to reliably kill a Helldiver in full armor, not to mention) implies a shocking degree of trust between the government and its populace. There is also nothing stating that other weapons such as Liberators can't be privately owned by a civilian.
One thing to support the theory of civilians being heavily armed is also the advertising in your super destroyer, since it can show an ad for the Breaker and it being a "hunting" shotgun. The only thing is that in the actual game worlds, this isn't really effectively shown off since settlements only usually have the break action shotguns.

Hey by the way has anyone stopped to realize that exchanging 20-30 (at most) men for thousands of enemy units consistently is actually an extremely good outcome? Jeez the more I think about this the more I start to realize how miserably Arrowhead failed lmao.
This is the thing that always gets me about the portrayal of the Helldivers in the game. It's like saying dropping a fucking nuke on something, killing thousands of people, is ineffective and useless because the nuke gets destroyed in the blast.

...Now it's gotten me thinking, what if instead they made Helldivers (the game) into an in-universe propaganda advert where the battles players fight aren't quite accurate to what it is really like out there.
Don't give them any ideas, they might just pull this retarded shit off to own the super chuds.
 
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The funny thing is that as satirical as Super Earth is there have been far worse regimes in real life. Every man woman and child seems adequately fed and cared for, all while the SEAF and Helldivers both are adequately armed and provided with high quality armamants, ordinance, and other materiel on a scale far beyond even Earth's entire population currently. Realistically the quality of life of the average person is as high as the average first worlder today, and on a galactic scale easily dwarfing the entire population of every human to have ever lived up until now, probably by several factors of 10.
That's impossible, I've been informed by plebbit that Super Earth's tyranny knows no bounds, and that Helldivers are expendable meat puppets the equivalent of your average farmer conscripted to fight the Mongol hordes armed with nothing but a wicker basket and a pussywillow.

But as you write - Super Earth treats its people well. Helldivers are sent far behind enemy lines and destroy an incredible amount of enemy forces and installations, armed with everything from laser weapons as 'mere' primary weapons, armour capable of resisting a hit from a rocket, or a mini-nuke to strap to their back and use as they see fit. What's more, Helldivers are given 40 minutes to get in, do some damage, and then get the fuck out again, presumably because the enemy's main forces start arriving after that point. And that's in addition to the fact that SE is not willing to sacrifice more than 20-25 men per mission. Helldivers are a valuable resource, but just like any military personnel, their loss isn't the end of the world.

The more I think about Super Earth the more I realize arrowhead is kind of retarded and just threw everything they thought was 'bad' into a melting pot (but still appeasing daddy Sony by making Super Earth racially diverse and in support of gay marriage). Just goes to show you really can't parody something you hate.
They're a Swedish company, don't expect them to think much further than 'hurr durr nigger overlords'. 9 out of 10 times that I pick an armour with Peak Physique I'm a nigger. My SD is crewed exclusively by sub-saharan and mocha niggers. (At least they'll all die when my SD inevitably gets blown up by Automaton planetary defense guns.) Are SE in support of gay marriage though? That doesn't really make sense, unless it also comes with a requirement to have at least 1/2 kids. Where did you read it? Not calling you a liar or anything - it would certainly be in line with Arrowhead.

...Now it's gotten me thinking, what if instead they made Helldivers (the game) into an in-universe propaganda advert where the battles players fight aren't quite accurate to what it is really like out there. Super Earth likes to depict four men thwarting entire enemy campaigns but through small lore details the cracks of how awful things really are can be seen by players interested in the small details. Every 'on-screen' death represents millions. One devastator effortlessly destroyed by some stray liberator fire represents a murderous 9 foot tall walking tank of solid steel shrugging off small arms fire as enlisted teenagers desperately try to stop its advance with their peashooter rifles.
Now, that's also possible, and an interesting thought. (It also seems to have been what Arrowhead initially wanted, given how they kept nerfing weapons to ensure every victory was hard-won.) However, with such attrition rates, the population would start to notice that none of those recruited into the Helldivers were returning to tell tales of their great accomplishments, and would probably turn their weapons on the government.
 
You guys are thinking too hard about this. Helldivers is a satirical comedy that grossly exaggerates the aspects of a totalitarian dystopia into comical absurdity. Leftists look at it and think it's an extremely subtle allegory that only highly intellectual individuals (themselves) are able to understand.
 
And everyone on the bug front is huffing gasoline, but c'est la vie.
I feel you, I actually prefer fighting the terminids to illuminate but I have to admit there definitely seems to be a higher percentage of absolutely retarded bugdivers compared to others.

I joined a bug match yesterday on difficulty 7 and the 3 bugdivers had somehow managed to not finish the objectives within the timer, it was shocking. I've literally never seen that before. I quickly finished it and when we were back on the ship they had like 6 deaths each. I don't know what the fuck they were doing before I arrived. They weren't even low level, I think the lowest was 70-something so they had no excuses.
 
Are SE in support of gay marriage though?
I read on the wiki that the ship engineer off to the side can occasionally mention having a wife, being a woman herself. Though I have never actually seen that line in game, to be fair.
And good lord, the fact that Super Earth can hold this whole war up and be able to avoid drafting entirely?? Both the SEAF and Helldivers are voluntary service only- We really ARE the good guys!
 
i have never once been intentionally teamkilled
Whilel this is still technically true, I did have one teammate who was less than a team player who nobody else in the game of randoms I was with liked. To begin with I had dropped an anti-tank in placement earlier in the game to have at extraction and he immediately drops a rocket sentry on it. I ask him why he did this and he shoots a crossbow in my direction so I kill him. we extract without respawning him
 
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Okay so no Illuminate content yet. But the major order is a choice between DSS upgrades. I would prefer the Eagle Re-arm one, but the exo suit cooldown boost is alright I guess.
 
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Okay so no Illuminate content yet. But the major order is a choice between DSS upgrades. I would prefer the Eagle Re-arm one, but the exo suit cooldown boost is alright I guess.
I can't seem to find any info on the newest order (stuck at work right now)
What are the specs on the Re-arm and exo suit cooldown?
 
I can't seem to find any info on the newest order (stuck at work right now)
What are the specs on the Re-arm and exo suit cooldown?
They both apply to the planet the DSS is on like the passive liberation boost. The exo suit one reduces their cooldowns by 35%. The eagle re-arm one is 15%. I forgot that the exo suits had 3 uses instead of 2. Knowing that, the exo upgrade is probably the better of the two.
 
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They both apply to the planet the DSS is on like the passive liberation boost. The exo suit one reduces their cooldowns by 35%. The eagle re-arm one is 15%. I forgot that the exo suits had 3 uses instead of 2. Knowing that, the exo upgrade is probably the better of the two.
Gotta agree with you there. 35% is going to be a huge decrease for the cooldown. I'm assuming cooldown buffs don't stack, so in theory that should put the cooldown at 390 secs.
Combine that with the 30 sec cooldown from Morale Augmentation and that should put the cooldown at 360 secs, 6 mins, a full 4 mins shorter than the standard cooldown.
 
Is there any way to shorten the cool down for the quasar canon and various laser weapons?
 
Things doesn't help that we haven't met anyone (at least in hd2) who does not drinking the Kool-Aid. From Service Technician to Democracy Officer, everyone seems sincere.
 
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