Helping Chris Discussion - A discussion about wether or not Chris should receive/is deserving of help in his life

[Norric Lancaster]

A quick foreword: this is my first post and I created this account because I feel like there was no place where it was relevant for an in depth discussion about Chris and him getting help from others. Im not talking about professional help, that is something that Chris desperately needs more than anything. I'm talking about people who try to give advice, motivate him, warn him, generally try to improve his life etc.

Now I support the idea that people shouldn't mess with Chris. What has happened to them and where they are now is saddening. However, what I don't completely sympathize with is where people, namely Null, try to help and protect Chris. I only came upon the void that is Chris Chan lore relatively recently and admittedly I'm not the most educated on the entirety of events involving Chris. Despite this I truly think that, of Chris deserves any kind of treatment, it is to be cold and neutral. What I mean is, I don't believe Chris should receive much to any help whatsoever, I believe them to be a terrible person. They may be a transgender, autistic, and emotionally damaged individual, but that doesn't make them a good person. Chris has always shown to be selfish, arrogant, racist, homophobic (I know he's "better" with the lgbtq community but I have yet to learn if he still has an aversion to homosexual males), incompetent, greedy, dishonest, lazy, etc. Etc. Etc. I'm not saying that Chris doesn't deserve a chance or guidance, but he already has been given numerous chances and opportunities to improve his situation as well as avoiding most if not all of the events that have happened. He has pushed away those who harbor genuine concern for him, he refuses to seek professional help, never heeding critical advice, and then listens to those who steer him wrong as well as blatantly falling short of his responsibilities. This is extremely evident in what happened at too many games. Chris didn't listen to warnings given to him preemptively, didn't listen to warnings given directly (in person and via Facebook) and after he was booted, he went on his usual "I'm in the right there's nothing wrong with what I did" diatribe. What's worse is he just devolved into incoherent ramblings about CPUs, even if you disregard everything else, it's appears that Chris is beyond all help except for help from a professional. I don't like seeing someone like Null, and the countless others who try to help and fix Chris wasting their time. There are many people much more deserving of help and attention. If you care that much to help Chris, perhaps do some community service instead. Hell, Chris is what got me motivated to get out and help at a local food bank once a week.

Leave him be, and watch him (hopefully) float on his own.

 

[Doc Cassidy]

I'd be more than happy to help him commit suicide.

 

[PT 404]

This greatly added to the discussion.

 

[Broseph Stalin]

Help him get a job, move out of Borb's house, be less of a sped, turn his whole life around, etc.? I don't have the time and money for that. But if the Farms helped, well...

 

[tehpope]

Chris has to want help before someone can give it to him. People have tried their hardest to give him good advice but he doesn't listen. A lot of people here would love to help him (and have in the past, see the Fire care package), but Chris has to want to change.

See the White Knight article on the Cwcki

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

third option: gay

 

[Mr. 0]

die chris

 

[Rhysuu]

I only came upon the void that is Chris Chan lore relatively recently

Get out.

 

[TaterBot]

great thread, OP! You should be a forum psychologist or something. We need help.

 

[Cake Farts]

I believe them to be a terrible person. They may be a transgender, autistic, and emotionally damaged individual, but that doesn't make them a good person. Chris has always shown to be selfish, arrogant, racist, homophobic (I know he's "better" with the lgbtq community but I have yet to learn if he still has an aversion to homosexual males), incompetent, greedy, dishonest, lazy, etc. Etc. Etc.

So basically everybody on this site.

Real talk, Chris has improved, bit by bit. In comparison to other cows such as ole Nick, Chris is as harmless as a fly. I’d recommend reading more about the recent boring Chris before assuming that she presents an active danger to those around her.

 

[nanny911]

lurk moar furhomo lmaoooo

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

lurk much, much moar

 

[Rhysuu]

Fucking newfags

 

[Guts]

With all the horrible shit people have done to him over the years, of course some people would want to start protecting him. Plus whenever some edgy 14 year old hears ye ol' Ode to CWC, they inevitably want to try their hand at becoming the next big saga in Christory. We need old users around who want to help Chris because at this point he kind of needs people to watch his digital back what with all of the information about him at the average autist's disposal.

 

[SJ 485]

I think it remains to be seen how Chris copes with Null's help as a gatekeeper for people with malicious intent and as a mentor of sorts, it might just be that that's all the help he needs. Null can't be Chris' guardian forever and there's obviously limits to how far he wants to take that role, but it might just be the most pragmatic and realistic solution to the "problem" of Chris' gullibility, since it seems nobody in his real life gives a damn about helping him.

 

[Gordon Cole]

If you seriously think you can help Chris, then there's a nice bridge that I could sell you.

 

[repentance]

Is your return key broken OP?

 

[Nekromantik]

How long did you lurk before you came to this conclusion?

 

[(not) y2k compliant]

There is only so much "helping" Chris from a perspective like this.

Basically he needs daily monitoring, he needs an adult/assisted care facility, he is incapable of completely taking care of himself. You talk like he HAS the capability to be rationalized with, but this is someone who literally believes a moon cannon is going to fire at his imaginary city. He ISN'T capable of being rationalized with in a meaningful way like other adults.

Unless you're willing to do this every fucking day for the rest of Chris's life, all power to you, but getting a social worker involved and the people like Wise off of his back would likely be a much more effective effort.

 

[IV 445]

Just let nature take its course. Safari rules will always apply. You may observe, but not interact. Do not disrupt the flow of lolcowery