Homebrew HRT Community - From mixing estradiol with bioadhesives to cooking plastic bags.

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Mentally ill individuals convinced that they are wrong sex self-medicating with homebrew hormones what can go wrong...

Define "Wrong"

It will go incredibly right in the Karmic way.

 

[din365]

This reminds me when I once saw a tranny who was rotting his balls thinking he was doing an orchiectomy. He also said he wanted to cut off his toes because his big feet were giving him dysphoria.
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I laugh at these idiots, because the same idiots who want us to "trust the science" and basically cheerlead efforts for vaxpasses in 2021 and 2022 are either turning a blind eye or cheerleading HRT made in some dude's bathtub or inject alcohol into their nutsack when medical science and common sense says says "thats outright retarded and dangerous".
So is science only trustworthy to them when its convenient for them?

 

[DickMain]

Misinformed people shouldn't be punished for society failing them.

Parts of society certainly tried to help them. Those parts of society were de-person'd, de-bank'd, and de-job'd for it. Trannies made it abundantly clear that the help was not wanted. These freaks are not misinformed; they're high on their superiority complex, their fetish, or both. They made their bed, they can lie in it. Serves them right if you ask me, I've seen enough tranny bed photos here to say they're getting exactly what they deserve; no sheets, raw mattress on the floor.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Why Is Reddit Facilitating At-Home Gender Transitions? (Archive)

This certainly takes away Reddit's "We couldn't possibly have known this was happening on our platform" shield. From the point they became away of that publication they would be responsible for whatever happens going forward . They are well aware that the existence of the subreddit violated their own content policy and the people there are engaging in activities that are patently illegal in all civilized nations.

I wonder if this would even expose them to civil liability since they know it exists, violated their own content policies, and continued to allow it to exist. I think I remember there being a case where a judge ruled that they can't hide behind existing law if they aren't even enforcing their own rules.

Every step of this process is wrong and this guy is seriously going to give someone a deadly infection… no sterilization, no sterile filter, no vortex, MCT OIL???? Jesus every step of this is terrifying. You couldn’t pay me to inject this shit and this is coming from a woman that already has estrogen in my veins.

Not to mention that the bulk chemical they are working with is technical grade, not medical/pharmaceutical grade.

Suicide is always their main outcome.

Inshallah.

 

[Glowie]

This certainly takes away Reddit's "We couldn't possibly have known this was happening on our platform" shield. From the point they became away of that publication they would be responsible for whatever happens going forward . They are well aware that the existence of the subreddit violated their own content policy and the people there are engaging in activities that are patently illegal in all civilized nations.

Reddit has protections if they play ball CEO before Spaz committed suicide since he was facing life in prison without parole for allowing leaked files on the platform, only protected class has shield, troons and big corporations to name two.
So called freeze peach subreddits are co-opted by shills and nuked by power mods if they have a bad day.

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Reddit were first ones join Keffals and Sinseer.
You get instant bans if you don't defend groomers and sex pests, another subreddits for DYI hormone subreddit stays up until it get enough wrong kind of attention or the law.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

We should be thankful that there's no r/TransDIYSurgeries subreddit. It would be fucking terrifying to see tutorials of people rearranging their genitals in the mirror while injecting themselves with copious amount of drugs so they don't pass out due to blood loss. But, reality is so fucked up sometimes that I wouldn't doubt this happened at least once or twice.

I made a post about this in the SRS thread. There's a freak called Sybil Lamb that got do-it-yourself castration instructions off of a eunuch message board and had his balls cut off in a hotel:
How Not To Have A Sex Change, by Sybil Lamb (2010)

I have a mild history of genital mutilation. I went through a short phase of driving nail in to my peepee and scrotum with a hammer. It was not genetalia dysforia. It was more like genetalia disassociation. I had a weird tr*nny hang up that my junk wasn’t really part of me but alien. So it would be corrective to cut it off. The other option is to live life with a mutation but modern western civilisation is only starting to get used to a fast growing well connected trans population. Tr*ns kids of 2020 or 2030 will probably make it to age thirty without to much anxiety depression or assaults.

7 years later I’m glad i kept my peepee. I almost cut it off but all the cutters got afraid of MIB investigators in 2003 after a bunch of sting entrapments. Now I’m on a long waiting list for health care funding for a vagina. The doctors will need my old peepee cuz they cut it up for vagina parts. I’m 30 sumthing years old and I’m cute and I like sex. I’ve been able to accept the peepee now that the balls are gone. I can even fuck if I really like my partner and I’m feeling healthy.

If you want to know the procedure for castrating someone I’ve seen 3 different versions of the online instruction manual that gets passed around the internet. There are eunuch message boards were people interested in castration hang out.

My procedure was over shadowed by my excitement and anxiety that it wasn’t real until I held both my testicles, severed in my hands. i still felt the knife even numbed out with emla cream and a big dose of novocaine. Felt not like pain, but like a knife cutting me open, edge dragging through my meat. There was a tiny plip of kick in the balls pain as he sliced through the spermatic cords. Then never ever again.

We had a slight complication cuz my junk was deformed. I had health normal balls, but a cluster of cysts on my left spermatic cord must have been related to my lifelong low T count. Lack of or excess of hormone receptor cells is another common gender mutation. Due to the cyst it was hard to clamp and cauterise my left artery. A. burned out a cautery pen and used up 4 packs of 2.0 suture and a whole pack of smokes trying to close off the left artery. In the end he wound up watching me for 24 hours making sure my fist sized blood blister looked like it wasn’t gonna let my remaining 4 pints of blood escape. Good thing I had that cyst removed.

And there was a barely legal clinic run in a barn by two trannies that cut their balls off:
‘Never ask permission’: How two trans women ran a legendary underground surgical clinic in a rural tractor barn - The neighbours had no idea. The medical equipment came from eBay. But in a dark time for transgender people, these anarchist medics treated patients that no one else would touch

"We're not going to ask for permission for something that we should be able to just do," says Ní Fhlannagáin, summarizing their attitude. "It's my f***ing body. If I want to go get my ears pierced, no one's going to say, 'oh, you can't do that, you need two letters from psychiatrists'."

All of which helps explain how Ní Fhlannagáin convinced Willow to perform an orchiectomy on her – that is, remove her testicles – in a reclining chair, working from photocopied pages of a medical textbook, while her trans mom was sleeping off her night shift upstairs.

The procedure almost went smoothly. But the instructions for bandaging afterwards were written for cis men, whose genitals function very differently than trans women's after a year or two on HRT. Six hours later the bandages fell apart, and Ní Fhlannagáin was rushed to hospital. On her first try, she was thrown out for "drug-seeking behavior" ("yeah," she recalls, "I needed antibiotics"), and only got treatment days later after nearly dying.

This experience evidently did not deter Willow, because afterwards – when both women coincidentally found themselves living in Washington state – she made a proposal to Ní Fhlannagáin: why not start their own orchiectomy clinic?

 

[x3firehexx]

Reddit has protections if they play ball CEO before Spaz committed suicide since he was facing life in prison without parole for allowing leaked files on the platform, only protected class has shield, troons and big corporations to name two.
So called freeze peach subreddits are co-opted by shills and nuked by power mods if they have a bad day.

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Reddit were first ones join Keffals and Sinseer.
You get instant bans if you don't defend groomers and sex pests, another subreddits for DYI hormone subreddit stays up until it get enough wrong kind of attention or the law.

Yeah thank god i got banned from that tarted hellhole, reddit did me a favour big time

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I have a mild history of genital mutilation.

Adding this to the list of sentences I never thought I'd ever see actually written.

 

[Glowie]

And there was a barely legal clinic run in a barn by two trannies that cut their balls off:

Please tell me that was some type of karmic punishment in store for these two, prison is too easy.

 

[x3firehexx]

Please tell me that was some type of karmic punishment in store for these two, prison is too easy.

did they get prison tough?

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Please tell me that was some type of karmic punishment in store for these two, prison is too easy.

Like I said, 'barely legal'. Everything they did was technically legal:

By 2004, Ní Fhlannagáin had burned out on anarchist activism and moved to Washington with her girlfriend Chrissy, where Willow was doing a residency. Ní Fhlannagáin needed money, and Willow had an "eBay addiction" where she would buy old medical equipment and fix it up. They hatched a plan.

"I don't want this to come off as like, there was this mission," says Ní Fhlannagáin. "People get this idea that I was anything other than a low bagger who needed to make money... we were dumb punk kids, man!"

Still, both women had been involved in abortion activism, and they drew political inspiration from an underground women's abortion service called the Jane Collective. Operating in Chicago between 1969 and 1973, it was founded as an antidote to unsafe illegal abortions often done by unqualified men.

While the Jane women’s actions were criminal at the time, legal compliance for a rural orchi clinic turned out to be surprisingly simple.

"What's a doctor's clinic?" asks Ní Fhlannagáin. "A doctor's clinic is a clean room that's up to a certain standard, with clean instrumentation that's up to a certain standard, that has records up to a certain standard, drug supplies and how it's stored up to a certain standard, and a licensed doctor and all your taxes and your business stuff up to a certain standard.

"We just met those standards, and the standards are not difficult to meet... we've just grown up with western medicine and basically surrendered ourselves to their whims."

Although they couldn't afford medical malpractice insurance, they also wouldn't make enough to need a business licence, and nor would they store opiates or narcotics on site. Ní Fhlannagáin went through medical privacy law training and put out the word.

They didn't tell the neighbours, nor the landlord. Nobody out there knew that Willow, Ní Fhlannagáin, or Chrissy were trans – rural women weren't expected to be feminine in the same way as city women – and they intended to keep it that way.

One week before the first surgery, on the 256-acre farm that Ní Fhlannagáin and Chrissy were renting, they built a front and sides onto one of the bays in the tractor barn; put in a door and a window, ran in electricity, and tiled and sealed the floor.

That tiling, Ní Fhlannagáin adds, is still there today, though the room is now used as an organic chicken processing factory. "They still don't know what I did in that room," she says, "which I plan on never f***ing telling them, ever."

Really, the main karmic thing that happened to them is that they are mentally ill trannies. One of them fell hard into drugs and killed himself:

"Trans healthcare is a drag," she says. "I f***ing hate doing trans healthcare. I'd never do it again. It's one of the most rewarding things and one of the worst things that I ever had to do.

"Part of that is that you were seeing folks at their most vulnerable. And trans girls? A lot of the time we don't do vulnerable real well. Because if you do vulnerable a lot, you don't last long. Anyone who does trans healthcare, God bless 'em. God bless 'em."

Worse, Chrissy was suffering from slowly worsening mental health problems, including alcohol and substance abuse, leaving Ní Fhlannagáin straining to keep her away from patients as much as possible. About three years after the clinic closed, they broke up, and four years after that, Chrissy killed herself.

"It's the same story, right?" says Ní Fhlannagáin. "This is a world not built for us. And how do you live in it? It's 35 people now, queer folks, and about two thirds of them trans, that I've lost over the years."

They did their last surgery three days before the clinic shut down. Willow and Ní Fhlannagáin went their separate ways, and largely kept quiet about the experience. Then something strange started to happen.

Ní Fhlannagáin's Irish friend Nóirín, who had been in Germany when the clinic was operating, told her they’d heard about it through a friend. Sybil Lamb described it in her essay about orchis, though she changed some of the details. The legend of the "ball barn", as some dubbed it, was spreading through the global trans community by word of mouth.

"Absolutely – I've heard of it several times from different people," says Gill-Peterson. "Especially other trans women, in the kind of conversations we have with one another, where we're talking about what we really know, and how our lives really are... it's like the trans version of six degrees of separation."

But it's unnecessary now that the Affordable Care Act forced insurance companies to cover transitions:

The first step in a medical transition is usually gender-affirming hormone replacement therapy (HRT), which slowly reshapes a person's body and emotions by adjusting their balance of estrogen and testosterone. For many the impact is life-saving, not only making them happier with their appearance or more able to "pass" as a cis man or woman but connecting them to their body in a profound new way. Some compare it to seeing the world in colour for the first time, or coming up from underwater and breathing air.

Yet before Barack Obama's flagship Affordable Healthcare Act in 2010, few US health insurers covered such treatments, and in the Nineties few clinics even offered them. Hence, Ní Fhlannagáin says many trans people were forced into the care of "sketchy doctors" who often mistreated them.

Thanks, Obama!

 

[Megatardingo]

A fool and their money are easily parted. I do really wonder what kinds of mental gymnastics make them think a capable and legitimate chemist will settle for amazon cards to break the law. They somehow think everyone is against them, except when they say they're not then they're totally all for it. There's literally no fucking skepticism from these people, they'll accept literally anything that even slightly validates their worldview, no matter the stretch.

The same mental gymnastics that make them think a fully male body can be changed with no repercussions flooding its chemistry with the wrong balances

 

[who dare wins?]

i'm busy with work. but i will be combing through posts for that mention. i'll hit you up when i have something.

update: this is what i was talking about

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/bobposting-chloe-elselvier-solanders-miss-voice-training-chloey-hoey-bob-smith-huai-ze-dong.100289/post-15180607

right after that post someone read the actual results and it looks like theres no actual estrogen in the sample.

You may be dismayed to learn that the answer is yes

to qoute these two posts, relatively speaking, I am not too well versed on the testing parameters nor the way these tests are conducted, however thought to just post this below for sake of easier access as gamp didnt put the exact post.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/bobposting-chloe-elselvier-solanders-miss-voice-training-chloey-hoey-bob-smith-huai-ze-dong.100289/post-15181489

The testing methods (of weight) from these people scream at how dodgy they are, even then, 35ml out of 40 for one vile may not seem much, what is the remaining 5ml?

besides that, from your post and trying to look at the general public opinion, Janoshik seems to be one of the sadly more usual stories. Highly sketchy sources of information to tell you your gear is "safe" when it has a far higher chance of killing you than what would be deemed acceptable for taking steroids. However the transharmreduction stuff really screams of concern when they won't disclose what lab it is being sent to nor being transparent despite it being 300 euros, which is safe to say they are probably sending it to the same lab and getting a kickback. The HRT shit is just more money to whoever runs this, especially as trannies always seem excessively deluded in their actual knowledge of endocrinology and it's associated fields.

they're listed as a real estate management firm

This is probably for tax writeoff reasons or to make sure that the czech republic does not look into them. Steroids are illegal there, similar to the US, thus there is a need to label yourself as "a TRT clinic" or something to do with "helping older males", maybe even list yourself as a biochem facility to get benefits or relaxed scrutiny. Same with these guys, makes any cursory glance look the other way unless you are asked to specifically look into them.

I doubt overall these are reputable. I would rather want to see the workplace these vials come from (probably horrific and unsafe conditions) and not have some guy in the czech republic who shilled out for the equipment falsify reports so he can get money from testosterone factory in china no.1233134949

 

[Glowie]

Really, the main karmic thing that happened to them is that they are mentally ill trannies. One of them fell hard into drugs and killed himself:

Good, opiates, benzos and synthetic drugs rot away every organ slowly and painfully. Until dysphoria becomes unbearable and drug addicted groomer trannies overdose.
Instructing kids to cook trash bags and inject necrotic agents into developing bodies, nothing short of painful and undignified death is enough to people responsible spreading DIY HRT.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Great to see.. We need mainstream scrutiny of this dangerous, potentially deadly illegal non-medical industry ASAP. Also happy to hear that the EU is actually doing something useful for once.

Some of those threads and screens are... wow. lol Doctors and common sense medical facts, learned from centuries of medical experience,.. are now "transphobic" tinfoil hat conspiracies.

Seriously.. these people have no freaking idea about what they are playing with by injecting non medical things. So many get sick or even die from injection related infections.. From self meds to illegal drugs.. hell, people end up with serious infections from medical blood tests! It doesn't come up much but.. There is a reason you bleed, seep and get fluid from even small wounds so easily. It's to try and keep things out. Remember that your skin is the first and most important line of immune defense. Willingly bypassing that for no good reason, without even basic protections is insane. People who actually support and supply this insanity (something for which literally ANY OTHER THING would get ass raped out of business, and freedom, so fucking quick by bureaucrats and law) should be dealt with ASAP by the legal system.

 

[x3firehexx]

Great to see.. We need mainstream scrutiny of this dangerous, potentially deadly illegal non-medical industry ASAP. Also happy to hear that the EU is actually doing something useful for once.

Some of those threads and screens are... wow. lol Doctors and common sense medical facts, learned from centuries of medical experience,.. are now "transphobic" tinfoil hat conspiracies.

Seriously.. these people have no freaking idea about what they are playing with by injecting non medical things. So many get sick or even die from injection related infections.. From self meds to illegal drugs.. hell, people end up with serious infections from medical blood tests! It doesn't come up much but.. There is a reason you bleed, seep and get fluid from even small wounds so easily. It's to try and keep things out. Remember that your skin is the first and most important line of immune defense. Willingly bypassing that for no good reason, without even basic protections is insane. People who actually support and supply this insanity (something for which literally ANY OTHER THING would get ass raped out of business, and freedom, so fucking quick by bureaucrats and law) should be deal with ASAP by he legal system.

At this point im confident troons at are a statistically lower intelligence level than your average tribesman.
Like, go to a tribe, try and tell them that men can be women and vice versa, and that cutting your dick off will solve all your mental issues. They'll laugh your ass off, not because they have technology/knowledge, but because they can put 2+2 together and use common logic. Like, to a tribesmen it makes intuitive sense that there are only 2 genders. It makes intuitive sense that cutting your dick off leads to sepsis, bleeding and death, and that burning random shit and inhaling it's fumes is also bad (it even smells bad and looks black and bad, so that means it' probably not good for you. This is called common sense, logic and intuiton. Something that troons apparently lack.

 

[ScooterL]

Suicide is always their main outcome.

If only.

 

[Mourning_Cloak]

It is about money. Socialized health care may be free at the point of use but it's funded by taxation on the populace.

When healthcare is "socialized" and funded by big daddy gubbament, you have less choice in what kind of healthcare you receive. See: the British government pulling the plug on Archie Battersbee (not that he was alive and needed to be kept on support). See also: Medicaid in the USA. Some doctors straight up won't take Medicaid for various reasons.

They’re just acting like people, and that’s my fucking objection.

Problem is, even when they are "just acting like people" they're still trying to get other people to coddle them and conform to their worldview. They're still trying to get into women's groups and bathrooms. The "community" is inherently narcissistic because 98% of them require constant validation and being allowed to embed themselves where they don't belong as part of that validation.

 

[Law]

If this was all that was going on, it could be purged pretty easily. The unfortunate reality is you have politicians cozying up to "the trans demographic" figuring it will get them a new voting bloc, pharmaceutical companies who build financial empires off other peoples' addictions, and high school guidance counselors consulting their state government approved booklet and telling teenagers they're transexual.

In New Hampshire, a woman lost custody of her sons and had full custody granted to their father when she refused to go along with her son, Maelle Jacques, trooning out and joining the girl's soccer team. The father was later arrested on child porn charges, but he's trying to use the fact that he has full custody to get an easier sentence. Governments and courts are absolutely complicit.

That’s why I believe you need a small percentage of Muslims in any country to help keep fags and feminists in line. The best tool for the job.

Thailand, famous for its ladyboy subculture, has a decently sized Muslim minority.
Iran, a Muslim theocracy, punishes homosexuality in men by death and in woman by lashing, while subsidizing trans surgeries, because le based imams think you can trans the gay away. It's enough to make me want to host a Muhammad-drawing contest.
The trans always rage against "TERFs" and "cis-gays", not Muslims, and there's a reason for that.

Glory to mankind but erasure of these flawed genes is a good thing and should be encouraged.

Plenty of trans people have children, thus passing on their genes. Loathsome pedo Stephonknee has like 6 kids. Women who take loads of testosterone are always getting in the news for becoming pregnant and giving birth.

Please tell me that was some type of karmic punishment in store for these two, prison is too easy.

The story of the Ball Barn is wild. https://archive.ph/rrWlq

 

[ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/bobpos...y-bob-smith-huai-ze-dong.100289/post-15181489

That's fucking hilarious, I had no idea that Otokonoko's first test showed a complete lack of estrogen.

However the transharmreduction stuff really screams of concern when they won't disclose what lab it is being sent to nor being transparent despite it being 300 euros, which is safe to say they are probably sending it to the same lab and getting a kickback.

Yeah, the fact they they use Janoshik, a 4chan /fit/ gear bro, is amazing. There are many rumors about Janoshik falsifying results for payment and the man himself is quick to sperg out in the replies on Reddit and random bodybuilding forums. He probably qualifies as a lolcow in his own right.

The HRT shit is just more money to whoever runs this, especially as trannies always seem excessively deluded in their actual knowledge of endocrinology and it's associated fields.

I came across a good history of endocrinology during my David Reimer phase and their concept is basically unchanged from 100 years ago when hormones were first discovered: testosterone is for men and estrogen is for women. We now know the situation is much more complicated, and that pumping yourself full of the opposite sex's dominant gonadal steroids is not a very smart way to overcome sexual dimorphism, a fundamental aspect of mammalian evolution.

Side note, although Reimer is technically part of the 41%, he did nothing wrong. His parents felt compelled to circumcise him for some reason and the hospital fucked up bad. Then John Money got involved and had this brilliant idea that secretly trooning him out and getting his whole family to lie to him about his true identity was somehow conducive to healthy childhood development. As Nature Made Him, his authorized biography, is absolutely horrific and involves, just to scrape the surface, Money forcing the two brothers to pretend fuck each other for "educational reasons." I unironically want Reimer to "rest in power."

I could powerlevel all day about what a fuckup John Money was but I'll desist and leave you guys with a recommendation for a documentary called Intersexion and the infuriating knowledge that his own PhD thesis refutes all his later "work."

Steroids are illegal there, similar to the US, thus there is a need to label yourself as "a TRT clinic" or something to do with "helping older males", maybe even list yourself as a biochem facility to get benefits or relaxed scrutiny.

Oddly, the Czech government seems to know what they do. This document posted on their site basically says something to the effect of, "substance import laws are changing but you don't need to do anything in response."