How is suburban living any better than bugmanism?

[Celebrate Nite]

If someone is obstructing my path or slowing me down, I assume they are doing so on purpose.

It's worse if you're in a suburban town with a high minority population.

Recently I was behind a nigger who was swerving all over the place, not using his signals, and had a nappy-headed hoe in the passenger seat smoking a joint so the whole area around the car stunk to high heaven. i kept trying to avoid him but he kept going in the same lane as me as if he was purposefully doing it to piss me off. At one point after the red light turned green he wouldn't move so I honked at him after like 5 seconds of no inactivity (keep in mind other cars were behind me as well) and he flipped me the bird as he sped off.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

I live in a community within a suburb with a tough HOA and it’s great. The mortgage is a bitch but it keeps niggers away, which is what I value the most for my wife and children.

I’ve lived in all settings and the cities are the worst: loud, expensive, smells terrible, random niggers wandering around doing suspicious things with a cowed police that would rather be meter maids or bust you going two miles over the speed limit. Rural living is pretty shit too, especially in winter when it takes the county days to plow the road you’re on. Gravel roads are hell on your car and having to drive 20-30 minutes to do basic things is tedious. Suburbs strike the right balance as of now. I understand due to demographic changes, I realize that I’m going to have to move a couple of times to avoid vibrancy but the alternatives are worse.

Out of curiosity, would you be ok with living in a suburb that has a small population of affluent mainland African immigrants? I mean the Nigerian and Ghanaian types who reject mainstream Black American culture, have cohesive families and are law-abiding. There's a pretty major difference between the two. A Texan suburb I previously resided in had a pretty sizable population of them (and Vietnamese) and I didn't have any problems. They were often much more friendly and welcoming than the whites, many of whom had a Stepford Wives quality about them and never talked to their neighbors (not all, mind, but many).

 

[Vargerd]

Where is homeownership even affordable anymore, other than Jamal's Crack Shack or Senile Helen the Hoarder's Hovel on MLK Blvd?

Everything remotely livable has been seized by BlackRock and AirBnB.

Are you living by yourself? If so, do you care if your home is pristine? Are you ok learning and putting in some moderate work (hanging some drywall, painting and the like)?
There are a lot of houses out there with great 'bones' that really just need what amounts to major cosmetic work. If the framing is good, the plumbing is good, the electricity is good, and the roof doesn't leak, it's a livible house, just not a very pretty one. I could go onto a long tangent about how to fix things in a house, but this is probably not the place for a ted talk on home diy projects.

It seems like you're completely fed up with the urban/suburban lifestyle. have you considered just moving out to the middle of nowhere? the homes there are much cheaper, and there's still jobs to be had if you're ok doing physical work outside. I have a 2nd house that I picked up cheap about 2 hours away from any major cities and around there, there are a good number of job openings with natural gas companies or pig farms. not glamorous work, but if I only had the mortgage on that house to worry about, they would cover it easily.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Don't fall into the trap of thinking if you have a mortgage, you don't own it. I feel like that's a meme landlords came up with to discourage people from buying instead of renting. There are plenty of homes that are reasonably priced and with interest rates rising it's a hell of a lot harder for companies like Blackrock to buy up single-family homes, let alone make money on the ones they've bought.

Come to think of it, I bet Blackrock came up with all this...with rent you get jack shit for what you pay, with a mortgage you get equity and eventually pay it off.

 

[Matt Damon]

Not that side walks are some kind of magical barrier that provides safety. I have seen plenty of cars drive onto the sidewalk.

What kind of nigger-infested hellhole suburbs do you people live in? I can think of one instance in my entire life where I saw someone drive up onto the sidewalk and it was the kind of thing that make everyone around stare in shock and confusion.

It's not like I live in some ritzy upscale area - it's actually the older and poorer side of town. It's just that we're decent middle-class people who conduct ourselves in a civilized manner.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

What kind of nigger-infested hellhole suburbs do you people live in? I can think of one instance in my entire life where I saw someone drive up onto the sidewalk and it was the kind of thing that make everyone around stare in shock and confusion.

I saw an old grandma drive her car into a metal guard in between the sidewalk and the parking lot because she thought it was an entrance to said parking lot. She was white by the way.

In my experience, the worst offenders of being bad drivers that do whatever the fuck they want are

• Boomers
• Women
• Pickup Truck Drivers (e.g. Dodge Rams, Toyotas, Fords, Chevy Silverados, etc...)
• Zoomers
• Foreigners

 

[MightyMorphin'Willbender]

If the framing is good, the plumbing is good, the electricity is good, and the roof doesn't leak, it's a livible house, just not a very pretty one.

You speak truths.
But if a dum dum doesn't know to do housework how are they gonna be able to evaluate if the bones of the house look good just from a visitation with the realtor. Things like black mold, lead pipe and asbestos get sold on chumps all the time.

 

[Lithuophile]

1. You aren't truly a home "owner". You still have to pay the bank for the mortgage.

Pay off that mortgage then tranny

You're also beholden to the nosy Karens at the HOA.

Don't move somewhere with an HOA

you are forced to dodge other people in their cars (who all drive like complete retards)

Sounds like a skill issue

3. You don't have a community or speak to your neighbors. You remain atomized in your own little fiefdom. You don't have nature to admire or fresh air to breathe.

Don't move somewhere unfriendly. You can end up moving to the countryside and still be surrounded by retarded neighbors.

4. You're expected to keep up with the Joneses, send the kids to the best schools and have them play sports with the kids who are better, have the nicest cars and TVs, gadgets, vacations, etc. The suburbs as we know them today are built on consoomerism.

Lol no, your average suburbanite drives a shitty lada/honda and sends their kids to whatever school is closest by

5. You still have liberal politics, except it's snot-nosed white liberals instead of hoodrats, fags, or hipsters. Suburban shitlibs are arguably worse, because they are the empty-headed do-gooders who want to make the suburbs more urban (as long as their gated communities are exempt, of course).

Don't move somewhere with retarded neighbors. Most of these complaints can get resolved by surrounding yourself with more tolerable people.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I lived in both isolating suburbs, and in apartments in a big city, and I can safely say that living in the big city is much worse.

Last time I lived in the big city, it was in an apartment like that of Barney Gumble from The Simpsons: the usual ambient background noise was from traffic and the occasional siren. I was surrounded on almost all sides by people and there were people walking by the place. It was a fairly "multicultural" place that was more left-leaning, so the crime rate was rather high, and there was no real "culture" except consumerism. It was like a giant shopping center and business park with the occasional residential area. There were also quite a number of openly mentally ill people walking around yelling stuff. However, while I did see the occasional used drug needle, it wasn't as bad as downtown Portland or San Francisco: there weren't homeless camps, nor feces on the ground everywhere. And thankfully I wasn't really the victim of a crime myself, although someone once broke into the shared mailboxes.

And with the coof, the area went all muzzling up, and just about everything "non-essential" was indefinitely "temporarily" closed.

Oh yeah, and over the time I lived in that small apartment, the cost of rent was jacked up from somewhere ~$500 to ~$1000 a month.

There is a healthy middle ground between alienating, isolating suburbanism and human anthill bugmanism that seems to always get lost in these conversations.

I think the best living arrangements may be a smaller town, or a more rural place if there's conveniences nearby, or living "off grid" if one has the skills.

extra-bass boosted ghetto blaster

I once lived above a rap fan who would always have people visiting, and would play rap music with bass every time. Another time while living there, there was a rap fan living right next to me. This guy would also have people visiting all the time, and would also blast crap rap. And there's that other guy who'd watch TV loudly all night. And multiple people who'd watch "smartphone" stuff and smoke right outside. Tip to all still enduring that BS: use a fan or other "white noise" maker to drown it out.

"DUDE I just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city" - PolluxRegulus

MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE THIS WAY

 

[Vargerd]

You speak truths.
But if a dum dum doesn't know to do housework how are they gonna be able to evaluate if the bones of the house look good just from a visitation with the realtor. Things like black mold, lead pipe and asbestos get sold on chumps all the time.

if you find a house you think might be the one, how I've always done it is like this:
1. make an offer contingent on an inspection

2. hire an inspector, most realtors can give you the name of at least 3 that they have worked with before, otherwise its not hard to look one up. From my experience it costs somewhere in the 300-400 dollars for a general inspector

3.Inspector does their job, they usually have a giant worksheet they take into the home and spend about 3 hours there by themselves, then you show up and they walk you through all of their findings. if you are looking at a house with bare studs in the walls, their job becomes a lot easier as they can see more and make less educated guesses. Finding things like black mold and asbestos are not too difficult and even as a layman I can recognize such things if they are not hidden behind a wall. As for lead paint (I assume you meant that when you said lead pipe) a lot of inspectors will include sending a small chunk of drywall in for a test, that way if there is lead paint, even if its under 3 or 4 layers of modern latex paint, you will know about it. If you did mean lead pipes, thats something they will be able to see very easy in the basement or crawlspace of the house. If you mean the city has lead pipes, that is something that can be settled with a call into the city hall and explaining your situation to them and being directed to the right person. If the inspector finds something specalized they have a concern about but don't have the more specific skill set to let you know exactly what needs to be done, they can normally refer you to someone local in that field who will often come out and look at a specific issue for less than $100.

4. If there are no deal breaking findings, you're good to go ahead. If there are, you have 3 options going forward. 1. back out of the deal entirely. 2. lower your offer by an appropiate amount to allow you to address the concerns yourself. 3. keep your offer price as is, but make fixing certain things the responsibility of the seller by the time you purchase.

Sorry if I'm going into a crazy amount of detail on this stuff, but it's something I've gone through myself twice and have helped a few friends go house hunting too. I'm not a paid expert or anything but I am handy enough around the house to be able to at least catch some of the more obvious things and save my friends some time. And who knows maybe someone here will find my rambling useful.

 

[Mothra1988]

Where is homeownership even affordable anymore, other than Jamal's Crack Shack or Senile Helen the Hoarder's Hovel on MLK Blvd?

Everything remotely livable has been seized by BlackRock and AirBnB.

How old are you, faggot? ib4 you're in your 30's or 40's and could have been paying off a mortage for decades at this point. It's no one else's fault you're a failure at life and forgot that being an adult means owning property instead of living under an adult babysitter/landlord.

 

[Matt Damon]

How old are you, faggot? ib4 you're in your 30's or 40's and could have been paying off a mortage for decades at this point. It's no one else's fault you're a failure at life and forgot that being an adult means owning property instead of living under an adult babysitter/landlord.

Why are you so comically assblasted tonight?

 

[neurotardvirgin]

Pre-McMansion era suburban-styled developments (denser/more walkable, moderately-heavily vegetated, mom-n-pop type infrastructure, streetcar-era, little to no HOAs or uncannily liminal lawn manicure hellways) that aren't overrun with trashy lumpens nor gentrified/pricejacked by globosoys hit the perfect/ideal sweetspot between Urbanism and Suburbia - and are comfy as fuck. There is always typically a slightly weathered homeliness to these types of places.

 

[Matt Damon]

Pre-McMansion era suburban-styled developments (denser/more walkable, moderately-heavily vegetated, mom-n-pop type infrastructure, streetcar-era, little to no HOAs or uncannily liminal lawn manicure hellways) that aren't overrun with trashy lumpens nor gentrified/pricejacked by globosoys hit the perfect/ideal sweetspot between Urbanism and Suburbia - and are comfy as fuck. There is always typically a slightly weathered homeliness to these types of places.

This thread's weird and increasingly elaborate fetishization of a mythical Hollywood-invented aesthetic that never actually existed is really getting out of hand.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

This thread's weird and increasingly elaborate fetishization of a mythical Hollywood-invented aesthetic that never actually existed is really getting out of hand.

Many of these types of towns used to exist in the Midwest. They’ve been completely hollowed out these last few decades though and ain’t coming back. One example is Dubuque, Iowa. Here’s a long, autistic article about the history of streetcars there: https://www.encyclopediadubuque.org/index.php/STREETCARS

Now HUD exports niggers there because in their minds Dubuque is a part of Chicago, even though it’s four or so hours away. Industry has left. The population of 60,000 has remained stagnant but all the productive white people are leaving and being replaced with vibrancy.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Kind of depends on the suburbs. In certain places like Tennessee, Wyoming, Arkansas, or Montana, you mostly see suburbs that are more like country living than anything and they tend to be really nice. Unfortunately, there's been a commieblockification of suburbs in recent years and in areas where this is a major problem, suburban life is just slightly nicer urban life.

 

[Night Crawler]

I guess if you're the kind of person who has an existential crisis at every red light, then no, there's essentially no difference between suburbs and bug hives.

Having worked in the suburbs of major city shitholes like Chicago and Minneapolis, the suburbs are just as shitty as the cities. Chicago is a 1,500 square-mile cancer that extends from Indiana to Wisconsin. Chicago doesn't end until you hit farmland. The city is shit, the suburbs are equally shit and almost exactly as you describe. The suburbs of smaller cities are much more spread out and much more livable.

There are suburbs in the surrounding counties as well. Not just area's surrounding the cities.

Biggest cope OP I've ever read here. You're just mad you're poor and live in the city with every fucking horrible thing that comes with that. The fact you think homeonwers have to be under the HOA is like foreigner-tier stupidity. You sound like someone who only knows how Americans live from sitcoms. Get a life, you whiny loser.

If you live in place with a HOA you don't have much choice other than move. If you move into a place with a HOA you have to follow their stupid rules.

What kind of nigger-infested hellhole suburbs do you people live in? I can think of one instance in my entire life where I saw someone drive up onto the sidewalk and it was the kind of thing that make everyone around stare in shock and confusion.

It's not like I live in some ritzy upscale area - it's actually the older and poorer side of town. It's just that we're decent middle-class people who conduct ourselves in a civilized manner.

This brings me to another point I was going to make separately but I will just do it here. Suburbs are full of a lot of alcoholism and drug use. The people that live in them usually have to work a lot to pay their rent or mortgage. Having to work makes people miserable. So they usually use drugs alcohol and cigarettes to cope. Being a wagie isn't fun. Alcohol and drugs can impair your ability to drive. This means you can do things like drive onto the side walk. There are a lot of liquor stores in the suburbs. Also a lot of drug dealers and drug use.

Then you have other issues like people driving like morons. You could pass out behind the wheel and drive onto the side walk. I have actually see

Why are you so comically assblasted tonight?

Lack of Risperdal and tendies. Mommy fucked off to the bar. LOL

No Risperdal and tendies make captain autismo faggots crazy. LOL

Are you living by yourself? If so, do you care if your home is pristine? Are you ok learning and putting in some moderate work (hanging some drywall, painting and the like)?
There are a lot of houses out there with great 'bones' that really just need what amounts to major cosmetic work. If the framing is good, the plumbing is good, the electricity is good, and the roof doesn't leak, it's a livible house, just not a very pretty one. I could go onto a long tangent about how to fix things in a house, but this is probably not the place for a ted talk on home diy projects.

It seems like you're completely fed up with the urban/suburban lifestyle. have you considered just moving out to the middle of nowhere? the homes there are much cheaper, and there's still jobs to be had if you're ok doing physical work outside. I have a 2nd house that I picked up cheap about 2 hours away from any major cities and around there, there are a good number of job openings with natural gas companies or pig farms. not glamorous work, but if I only had the mortgage on that house to worry about, they would cover it easily.

Places with cheap housing and rent don't have any work. You won't even be able to afford cheap.

I saw an old grandma drive her car into a metal guard in between the sidewalk and the parking lot because she thought it was an entrance to said parking lot. She was white by the way.

In my experience, the worst offenders of being bad drivers that do whatever the fuck they want are

• Boomers
• Women
• Pickup Truck Drivers (e.g. Dodge Rams, Toyotas, Fords, Chevy Silverados, etc...)
• Zoomers
• Foreigners

I saw a woman probably in her late 40's or early 50's drive over the little cement thing in the parking spot of a grocery store that's supposed to stop you from pulling to far forward while parking. She also drove up onto the media in the parking lot. It's like one of those little strips with the curbs on each side with mulch or dirt in the middle with grass trees and sometimes bushes in them. She drove onto that. It looked she panicked and and got the gas and break mixed up.

Women are in the bad drivers club of America along with Asians and niggers.

 

[Mothra1988]

If you live in place with a HOA you don't have much choice other than move. If you move into a place with a HOA you have to follow their stupid rules.

I keep hearing people on this website specifically bringing up the HOA randomly like it's always relevant discussion point for not living in an apartment like a nigger. Is this some foreign or tuguboat schizo thing? How fucking hard is it to not buy a home with an HOA? It's as aburd as saying you're forced into buying a home with a swimming pool. WTF even is this? Is every house in New York in an HOA or something. It's fucking insanely easy to not buy a home in an HOA gated community. You can find books with thousands upon thousands of examples in any diner for free.

 

[Vargerd]

Places with cheap housing and rent don't have any work. You won't even be able to afford cheap.

yeah if you live 50 miles from a town of 100 people that could be the case, my example was a house I purchased that is about 10 miles from a town of 5000 people, and that's the biggest town inside of 30-45 minutes from there. If you have a car and are ok with a half hour drive to work there are lots of jobs that pay more than minimum wage if you are willing to exert yourself physically. I am not advocating moving to a dying town in the middle of nowhere, just far enough away from the big cities to where when you leave a city you do not immediatly enter the next one, but instead see farmland or wooded areas. Just looking around on zillow I found many decent starter homes for 1 person or a couple without even hitting 100K in multiple states, a lot of them were themselves in smaller cities, but had lots of at least 1/2 acre which is the height of luxury compared to bughives or inner ring suburbs. these are homes easily within an hour of a bigger city. Its all about walking a balance between how much are you willing to pay and how much are you willing to put up with as far as drives go.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Everyone who doesn't live in the area I do, and doesn't live life the way I do, is basically a bugman and also fat and I would not have sex with them