How is suburban living any better than bugmanism?

1. You aren't truly a home "owner". You still have to pay the bank for the mortgage. You're also beholden to the nosy Karens at the HOA.
True, this is an unconscionable violation, when everyone knows in rural areas you can claim any home you see for free!

2. You have a car, but that's not necessarily freedom of movement. Instead of being packed into public transportation with other people like sardines, you are forced to dodge other people in their cars (who all drive like complete retards) and waste your precious, ever-dwindling time on this earth waiting for stoplights to turn green.
Sounds like a skill issue. Git gud.

3. You don't have a community or speak to your neighbors. You remain atomized in your own little fiefdom. You don't have nature to admire or fresh air to breathe.
What's stopping you from doing so? ALL your neighbours can't have restraining orders against you.

4. You're expected to keep up with the Joneses, send the kids to the best schools and have them play sports with the kids who are better, have the nicest cars and TVs, gadgets, vacations, etc. The suburbs as we know them today are built on consoomerism.
Who's forcing you to? Mate, admitting both a skill issue and to being an NPC in a single post is kinda embarrassing.

5. You still have liberal politics, except it's snot-nosed white liberals instead of hoodrats, fags, or hipsters. Suburban shitlibs are arguably worse, because they are the empty-headed do-gooders who want to make the suburbs more urban (as long as their gated communities are exempt, of course).
If they're your neighbours, you are also in that gated community they'll hypocritically guard from nigger intrusion. Stop whining.
 
Hmmm. I used to live in a very cool part of a city and had a sweet deal on my apartment/condo in a cool old converted house. Sometimes I miss it. Now, I'm not in a big Texas-style sheet rock mansion suburb. It's small and there is an HOA and I know 80% of my neighbors. I have become a nimby Karen and I love it. Things I don't miss about urban living:
  • Random bass at any hour
  • Container gardening on my small strip of concrete
  • Not being able to park my car because a meth addict is passed out in my space
  • Other homeless antics
  • Having my car, bike or mail stolen all the time
  • People putting trash in my can if I didn't roll it back up before getting home from work
  • Feeling unsafe to go out the front door in my pjs at night
  • Only being able to engage in the most surface level of household maintenance and look.
Honestly love living in OUR house. No mortgage. Minimal HOA dues. Property taxes are a bitch though but we can afford it.
 
I live in an apartment near suburbs in a midsize city. Living in a dinky apartment sucks, especially when my heffalump neighbors decide to have sex in the middle of the day and I'm wondering if the ceiling will cave in while I'm sitting underneath them, but the area itself isn't too bad.... yet.

Most suburbs around here are housing developments occupied by Boomers and new immigrants. Don't know where all the middle class whites with families went. Maybe they don't exist anymore, but besides that, here's what I hate about suburbs:

1. Not walkable. They're deliberately made to discourage outside people from driving through them, so most are mazes with one opening and exit. God help you if you try to cut through a Boomer's lawn to get to another part of town. They WILL shoot you where I live.

2. Not much customization: Some, I presume have HOAs that tell them what they can do with their lawn, so there's only so much they can do. Rarely you'll find something interesting in their yards like original artworks or veggie gardens. I miss the days when people would put flowers in toilets and leave them in their front yards. Even a Bathtub Mary would be nice...

3. The people there have a "what the fuck are YOU doing here" attitude as they see you walk past. I'm a middle aged whitey who'd probably lose a fight with a medium sized dog. I'm the person least likely to start shit and I certainly wouldn't start shit in the middle of the day when I'm usually out walking. Calm your tits.
 
For any younger people reading this who are turned off by the prospect of being beholden to an HOA, they are extremely region-dependent. I've never had one, and neither does anyone I know, except for an elderly relative who lived in a 55+ community.
 
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It's not and there's less resources for poor people like me and more meth labs

Also new clear cut subdivisions with no trees and no yards are uncanny abominations and I'd rather be homeless than live in one.
 
For any younger people reading this who are turned off by the prospect of being beholden to an HOA, they are extremely region-dependent. I've never had one, and neither does anyone I know, except for an elderly relative who lived in a 55+ community.
They're much more common in the US sun belt. Most Texan subdivisions for example are under an HOA and they can get downright psychotic. Many of them absolutely live up to the reputation of being dead, sprawling, sun-scorched liminal spaces of pavement with very poor drainage and borderline-treeless grass with subpar service accessibility. Cape Coral in Florida is another example. Healthy suburbs can absolutely be built, but they increasingly became a parody of themselves after WWII.
 
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