How to save the western world

[mr.moon1488]

Pretty much thread title. I know that's not really a deep thot, but I'm curious to hear what people think should be the course of action for the person living in the nu-west who wants to restore things to at least some semblance of normalcy.


Personally, I don't really see anything outside of a hard collapse and restart actually breaking the status quo. Obviously, Democracies and Republics aren't the answer. The state of the modern west is sufficiently self-evident to this end. Probably the biggest Jewish scam in history has been to brainwash the general population into thinking that they can overthrow their oppressors, or resist hostile invasion by simply putting a blot of ink on a piece of paper and calling it a vote. Of course, this will never accomplish anything, but the allure of having your will be done without having to put in any real sacrifice into fulfilling your will is simply too seductive of a lie for any man to resist it fully. One could very shallowly digress into theology and find the self-apparent Luciferian parallels between the sinful side of human nature and democracy. That aside, however, it is abundantly clear that most people won't actually change their collectively self-destructive ways in the west until they've been forced to do so by some cataclysmic event that all at once, puts them between the binary choices of either being wiped off the face of the Earth or rejecting the current western dogma and returning to a state at which the west had at least some degree of homeostasis.

 

[L50LasPak]

Embrace the end of all things. It is out of nothing we came, and into nothing we shall go. Mankind's twilight years have nearly passed, and the reckoning awaits.

Its only once you've lost everything that you are truly free.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Embrace the end all things. It is out of nothing we came, and into nothing we shall go. Mankind's twilight years have nearly passed, and the reckoning awaits.

Its only once you've lost everything that you are truly free.

I'd agree with the idea that there will be an end to all things on this Earth, but I reject the idea that one should accept this end. The lord spent his last moments on the cross preaching salvation. It does in my opinion come directly back to "De die autem illa et hora nemo scit, neque angeli caelorum, nisi solus Pater" ( But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only). One should prepare for it, but one should never simply give in.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

You let it die, so you can grow a new tree from the same tree. There's no saving this shit show nor the people who allowed it.

 

[byuu]

Imagine being so mad about retarded trannies or whatever that you want your whole country to burn down.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_and_hold

 

[Otterly]

The only positive way out will be space travel and exploration. We need a new frontier as a species.
- The third world will continue to breed like rabbits, and cause untold ecological destruction as they eat their way out of their own ecosystems and move into Europe. I have no idea how you solve that humanely. Education was supposed to be the answer but that hasn’t worked.
- we are polluting our water land and air with things that may takes tens of thousands of years to break down
-this hideous anti human thing of a trans humanist movement has taken root.
I do t know what we do. Things won’t magically go back to good, it’s either some amazing new thing that happens or a very bad one.

 

[draggs]

1. Log out of kiwi farms dot net
2. Never return
3. Clean your damn room
4. Take a shower, wash your benis
5. Get a haircut
6. And a job application
7. You damn hippie

Western civilization will take care of itself from there

Also consider picking up a history book or three so you can recognize that societies as materially and culturally as productive as the West is are not the ones that collapse

When a third of the population is NEETs dependent on the State for bread like the people who ramble on about the imminent, inevitable collapse of our dead nigger society are, then we can talk

 

[Kermit Jizz]

When a third of the population is NEETs dependent on the State for bread

Well we're already up to 13%

 

[L50LasPak]

I'd agree with the idea that there will be an end to all things on this Earth, but I reject the idea that one should accept this end. The lord spent his last moments on the cross preaching salvation. It does in my opinion come directly back to "De die autem illa et hora nemo scit, neque angeli caelorum, nisi solus Pater" ( But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only). One should prepare for it, but one should never simply give in.

Acceptance to some extent or another is part of the preparation process, though I suppose there's a fine line between the kind of "lay down and die" acceptance and the "there's just nothing that can be done in this situation" kind of acceptance.

The thing with society, and especially modern day society, is that its not actually a real, tangible thing. It doesn't actually exist, its just a series of written, verbal, or unspoken agreements. It requires people to have a lot of presumptions in order for it to function at all. People have to believe in it. Even if they believe society is corrupt and shitty and evil, they still believe the system works to some extent, because its still operating and able to accomplish some of its objectives. Apathy is the best and most capable weapon available to the common populace. No system, no matter how corrupt, evil or automated, can survive without the confidence of its subjects. When people stop believing that a society will be able to impose order, on a wide scale, that is the exact point that it dies at.

The people in charge want you to give up, yes, but they want you to give up and obey. Not give up and fall away from them and do your own thing damn the consequences. When I say to embrace the end, its the latter I mean. People should not be afraid to see it all fall apart. Its a natural process, and fully necessary for something better to come along after that (however slim the chances of such a thing may be). The more people who peel off, and especially the more capable people who do so, the weaker the whole thing becomes, and the closer that end draws. Attrition is the name of the game, and there are many more of us than there are of them. It should be encouraged at every opportunity.

 

[Shpongoolio Trismegistus]

We're doing fine.

Go read a history of political philosophy, and you'll see we're doing fine. None of this is abnormal, it's all happened before, it'll happen again.

 

[draggs]

Well we're already up to 13%

But do they take 52% of the bread

 

[White_N]

I know it's hard and scary, but you need to have sex with wh*te w*men.

 

[Esau]

Western civilization is only a vassal for the Holy Ghost; it will not always exist, and that's fine.

 

[the fall of man]

We're doing fine.

Go read a history of political philosophy, and you'll see we're doing fine. None of this is abnormal, it's all happened before, it'll happen again.

While I wouldn't call the current state of things fine, I agree. The United States in particular is entering the trough of a 10 year financial, 50 year economic, and 80 year cultural cycle. Things are going to break colossally, and we will have to face disaster in the form of specific crises. Some of these crises are in the offing, and some of them are right in front of us and seem unsolvable (like our current political polarization).

It will not destroy the West. The strength of America (currently the strongest Western power, likely to remain so) lies in our peculiar bipolar nature. We are almost always societally split to the breaking point on some issue, and we ignore all advice and do the most idiotic thing in the end, which works

 

[L50LasPak]

Also consider picking up a history book or three so you can recognize that societies as materially and culturally as productive as the West is are not the ones that collapse

We're doing fine.

Go read a history of political philosophy, and you'll see we're doing fine. None of this is abnormal, it's all happened before, it'll happen again.

It will not destroy the West. The strength of America (currently the strongest Western power, likely to remain so) lies in our peculiar bipolar nature. We are almost always societally split to the breaking point on some issue, and we ignore all advice and do the most idiotic thing in the end, which works

This is pretty much identical to the common drug addict asserting that, since they have yet to overdose, there is no danger in their habit.

When a third of the population is NEETs dependent on the State for bread like the people who ramble on about the imminent, inevitable collapse of our dead nigger society are, then we can talk

The presence of these people at all, and the system's inability to remove them, is an indicator that its health is failing. Even many so-called productive people work jobs that are useless and produce nothing of value. Large swathes of society are simply not beneficial in any way, even you yourself admit this. There's a word for that phenomena: cancer.

 

[gang weeder]

Personally, I don't really see anything outside of a hard collapse and restart actually breaking the status quo. Obviously, Democracies and Republics aren't the answer.

You pretty much answered the question here. These trends are pretty much forces of nature outside of anyone's control. All we can do is ride it out and hope that something better comes after.

 

[Certified_Autist]

I am aware that all of the below is MUCH easier said than done, but this is the short list of what I think is neccesary to fix the West.


Current financial system is a clusterfuck.
>End fractional reserve banking, end fiat currency. Return to financial system based on actual physical assets.

Modern Prussian-derived education system designed to churn out midwit drones.
>Reform education systems so that they actually educate people. Teach students "how" to think crtitically, not merely "what" to think.

Rates of depression, loneliness, mental illness, etc, are skyrocketing
>This may sound weird, but I think some degree of religiousity/spirituality should be officially encouraged, both for social cohesion and for individual mental health.

Declining birthrates combined with growing epidemic of lonely single adults
>Complete cultural reset- discourage male/female hypergamy, fix male/female gender relations, discourage LGBT, and encourage stable relationships that lead to reproduction.

People have no pride in their nation's history, either out of ignorance of said history or outright hatred of said history
>In line with the cultural reset, promote western culture postively in mass media, to give people a sense of pride in their heritage.

High-trust communities increasingly becoming thing of the past, IQ is falling and crime is increasing
>A country is the sum of its people. So stop importing retarded 3rd worlders, and if possible, incentivize the ones already here to leave.

Labor shortage combined with shortage of good jobs
>In line with ending migration/immigration, make it impossible to import foreign workers so that companies must hire Westerners, or train Westerners if there aren't enough qualified workers. This will increase wages due to laws of supply and demand.

Merely attempting to implement all of the above isn't going to happen without major political reform. So I unfortunately agree with the doomers that positive change will not happen until the current system collapses or is severely weakened.

 

[Wuornos]

Nothing can be done. It's too late. White "men" have spent half a century scapegoating and vilifying women and mothers. Now you're dying out because women hate you and are going asexual, gay or screwing non-white men.

You get what you deserve...

 

[draggs]

This is pretty much identical to the common drug addict asserting that, since they have yet to overdose, there is no danger in their habit.

It's not possible to overdose on mary jane

The presence of these people at all, and the system's inability to remove them, is an indicator that its health is failing. Even many so-called productive people work jobs that are useless and produce nothing of value. Large swathes of society are simply not beneficial in any way, even you yourself admit this. There's a word for that phenomena: cancer.

I admit no such thing of course

I dont recognize any correlation between reality and your opinions when I venture out into this dead nigger world