Science Huge genome study confronted by concerns over race analysis - Some geneticists say key figure falsely suggests genetic data support notion of distinct races

BY JOCELYN KAISER
23 FEB 2024 6:05 PM ET

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An attempt to depict the relatedness of nearly 250,000 people in the All of Us study has drawn criticism.ALL OF US RESEARCH PROGRAM GENOMICS INVESTIGATORS, NATURE (2024), HTTPS://DOI.ORG/10.1038/S41586-023-06957-X

An uproar broke out on social media this week after Nature published a paper about a massive U.S. health research effort to capture the genetic diversity of people across the country. Critics said a key figure, which depicts patterns of relatedness among nearly 250,000 study volunteers whose genomes were sequenced, could mislead some readers into thinking the data support the idea that humans fall into distinct races.

The flap highlights the challenge of describing human ancestry data, some scientists say. The leader of the challenged All of Us study, funded by the National Institutes of Health, acknowledged in a statement that “many excellent points have been raised” about how researchers communicated their results. But they have no plans to revise the figure. “The feedback highlights how quickly this field of research is evolving, as well as its complexity,” geneticist and All of Us CEO Josh Denny said in the statement.

The study, which aims to eventually recruit 1 million volunteers across the United States, was designed to address concerns that existing genomic data sets are primarily composed of data from people of European descent. All of Us, however, has prioritized recruiting Black people, Latinos, and others with normally underrepresented backgrounds. The Nature paper, one of several from the study published this week, identified more than 1 billion DNA differences, or variants, among the nearly 250,000 genomes, noting that about one-quarter of those variants are novel and some could yield fresh insights into diseases.

Many researchers noted the value of the data set for expanding genomic research to include a greater diversity of people. However, several prominent geneticists quickly expressed concern that the way the All of Us team depicted the diversity in its data set was overly simplistic. The authors had used an algorithm called uniform manifold approximation and projection (UMAP) to summarize the variation and visually represent genetic relationships among participants who described themselves as white, Black, Asian, or a member of another racial group. This resulted in a graph consisting of several blobs of different colors (see the figure here).

The problem, critics said, is that UMAP creates blobs that look distinct while masking the inherent messiness in the data. “The fact that they are distinct is an artefact/feature of UMAP,” Ewan Birney, director of the European Bioinformatics Institute, wrote in a long thread on the social media platform X (formerly Twitter) describing how UMAP takes complex genomic data and summarizes them in 2D. “Almost certainly, some of the people in the other big blobs are some sort of cousin to the main blob.”

Birney acknowledged there’s no “easy way to represent this data in 2D” but also expressed concern that “it can easily be read as ‘race is pretty real, and associated with genetics’ which is … *not* a good interpretation.” Stanford University geneticist Jonathan Pritchard expressed a similar concern. “I’m not a UMAP hater in all settings, but I think it’s misleading and potentially harmful for this specific problem,” he wrote on X, adding that it could be “misinterpreted by the public.”

The paper’s corresponding author, geneticist Alexander Bick of Vanderbilt University Medical Center, acknowledges that the figure could have been labeled more clearly. But he points out that the three other major human genome papers published in the past few years, from the UK Biobank, a database called gnomAD, and the Mexican Biobank, also use the UMAP algorithm, which “is frankly why we selected it.” Trying to depict complex genomics data in 2D is “really challenging,” he says.

Bick also counters arguments by some critics that the All of Us paper authors disregarded a recent National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine report on the appropriate use of population labels in genetics studies. He notes that the report came out after the Nature paper was first submitted, but that he and his co-authors incorporated its advice on several matters, such as not including race and ethnicity in the same figure.
Outspoken geneticist and former eLife Editor-in-Chief Michael Eisen called on X for a retraction of the Nature paper, warning that it “features a scientifically invalid representation of genetic diversity and race that is going to feature in racist literature for decades.”

When asked about the concerns, a Nature spokesperson said: “We are aware of the discussions that are taking place and are in contact with the authors.”

Geneticist Daniel MacArthur of the Garvan Institute of Medical Research tried to find a middle ground in the discussion. “All Of Us is one of the most thoughtfully inclusive programs in the history of human genetics, and will have enormous impact on reducing inequity in genomic medicine,” he posted on X. But, he added, the lesson of the UMAP flap is to “be careful with ancestry labels; they matter.”

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Study of the genome would completely eradicate the "humans are just monkeys from africa" bullshit
That hypothesis has already been scientifically discredited.
Stop being a nigger.
oh but separate dog breeds exist, right? It just doesn't apply to humans, for some reason.
Even shitlibs like Richard Dawkins openly acknowledge racial groups and eugenics.
Imagine how retarded the people trying to deconstruct these are.
 
That hypothesis has already been scientifically discredited.
Stop being a nigger.
How am I being a nigger? Because YOU are unaware that the mainstream average person thinks everyone is from Africa

Fucking faggot

I challenge you to . . . distinguish a Chinaman from a Japanese from a Korean.
First off, these aren't different races. These are subsets of the same race, Semites.

Also, if you're exposed to Asians enough, you can tell them apart
 
How am I being a nigger? Because YOU are unaware that the mainstream average person thinks everyone is from Africa

Fucking faggot
First off, these aren't different races. These are subsets of the same race, Semites.

Also, if you're exposed to Asians enough, you can tell them apart
Stop doubleposting you douchebag apostate.
 
The smetics or kike types are from the middle east.
As are the Asians. They migrated from the mid east to the far east.

Asians and mid easterners have a common ancestor
Orientals are from East Asia and they are also different from the mongoloids of the steppes.
yes, but thats several thousands of years after the origin of the race
You japs sure are stupid. Maybe the hentai and radiation is rotting your brains?
I'm not japanese
 
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I'm not an apostate, nigger. No king but Christ.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

You twist the Scriptures like a sovereign citizen distorts the law and common sense.
Surpirsed you were able to take time away from worshiping the pope and blowing little kids to make this post
You think I'm a Catholic? Fucking retard.
 
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They have to see any difference as better/worse and becasue they are all, deep down, racist as anyone else, they assume that a geneticist saying ‘these groups have really different ancestry, how interesting’ means one is getting enslaved.

Leftists believe everyone in the world is equal, except right-wingers, who are subhuman inbred genetic trash worthy of extermination.
 
But we are different races. The article uses the weaselly ‘distinct’ when the groups can be a bit fuzzy around the edges, but we are composed of different subgroups. That that is controversial blows my mind. Take a swede and a Han Chinese - body on earth wouldn’t pick them out and assign them to different groups. The problem is that where biologists see difference they see a puzzle or an interesting datapoint. Where leftist progressives see a difference they see a hierarchy and where they see a hierarchy it means one is the baddie and one the goodie.

In reality, our swede and our Chinese are just slightly different subtypes of humanity. It’s their own racism that’s showing
Maybe it would be more accurate to call them "breeds", but people would feel outraged because dogs have breeds.

I challenge you to . . . distinguish a Chinaman from a Japanese from a Korean.
The meme of "all x look alike" comes from people who aren't familiar with those x. An American who isn't used to many Hispanic would only see the common characteristics (darker skin, dark hair, short size, etc) and not the subtle differences we are used to recognise. That's why Chinese people can tell each other apart, otherwise it'd be confusing for them.

Maybe because here in Lat Am we have SO MANY Asians living here, we can tell them apart a bit.

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Fujimori vs Wong.
 
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