War Hundreds of protesters, some carrying guns in the state Capitol, demonstrate against Michigan's emergency measures

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/hundreds-protest-michigan-lawmakers-consider-extending-governors-emergency-powers-n1196886

Hundreds of Michigan residents protested outside the state Capitol building in Lansing on Thursday, with some pushing inside while the Legislature was debating an extension of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s state of emergency in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Protesters held signs, waved American flags and even carried firearms while some chanted, “Let us in!” and “This is the people’s house, you cannot lock us out,” and others tried to get onto the House floor but were blocked by state police and sergeants-at-arms, according to WDIV-TV, an NBC affiliate in Detroit.

A state police spokesman told NBC News that it is legal in Michigan to carry firearms as long as it is done with lawful intent and the weapon is visible.



The protest, dubbed the "American Patriot Rally," was organized by Michigan United for Liberty to call for the reopening of businesses.

State lawmakers are expected to vote on the 28-day extension of the state of emergency before it expires at midnight.

Whitmer, a Democrat who has faced fierce backlash for her strict stay-at-home mandate, extended that order earlier this month until May 15, but eased some restrictions on public activities as the state's coronavirus cases stabilize. The state, however, still has more than 40,000 cases and is one of the hardest-hit states.

The emergency declaration allows Whitmer to use her emergency powers to use executive orders during a crisis; its extension is separate from the extension of the stay-at-home order.

As the protests moved indoors from the rainy steps of the Capitol, police took the temperatures of those entering the building using a forehead thermometer, according to WOOD-TV, an NBC affiliate in Grand Rapids.

Like the “Operation Gridlock” demonstration on April 15 over Whitmer’s stay-at-home order, many demonstrators appeared to be supporters of President Donald Trump, donning "Make American Great Again" campaign hats, and in one instance, putting on a dance routine by two girls wearing masks that appeared to be Trump and former President Barack Obama.

Republican lawmakers in Michigan, who control both chambers, have signaled that they would like to see the state safely reopen soon and have pushed back against Whitmer’s request for an extension of her emergency declaration.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Like I said up thread, if the house passes the UBI bill that will give $2k/month to people until this settles down, your economy fears will not happen. You are really underestimating this virus. Your tune will change when you know someone who has complications that last for months.

$2k a month won’t cover rent or food for some people that lost their jobs. $2k might work in rural Kentucky, but is several magnitudes below poverty level in somewhere like San Francisco. On top of that, with less money to circulate, more businesses will suffer as a result. There comes a point where the treatment is worse than the virus itself. An economic depression will kill many times more than the virus (based on current statistics).

 

[Übertroon]

Like I said up thread, if the house passes the UBI bill that will give $2k/month to people until this settles down, your economy fears will not happen. You are really underestimating this virus. Your tune will change when you know someone who has complications that last for months.

lol
Don't let a crisis go to waste I see. Unfortunately I don't think UBI is sustainable for the same reason trumpbux didn't magically solve all the problems for a month. The money ain't free, and when money doesn't come from labor shit doesn't really get done

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Like I said up thread, if the house passes the UBI bill that will give $2k/month to people until this settles down

We already spent a tenth of our national debt for the CARES 1 act, now you want to give the working population 2 thousand dollars monthly? That's roughly $418,256,188,000.

Monthly.

The second CARES act was $484 billion, and you want the feds to dole out nearly that amount on a monthly basis for a year at minimum?

You are really underestimating this virus. Your tune will change when you know someone who has complications that last for months.

Starvation and homelessness can cause complications that last for months, too.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I had it and my mother who survived stage 4 cancer had it.

We're good. Thanks for the concern. I appreciate any monetary help but I think this is an over blown response and I would love to go back to work.

Are you sure you had it? Lots of people who had a cold say they had it, but the real one lasts for several months

We already spent a tenth of our national debt for the CARES 1 act, now you want to give the working population 2 thousand dollars monthly? That's roughly $418,256,188,000.

Monthly.

The second CARES act was $484 billion, and you want the feds to dole out nearly that amount on a monthly basis for a year at minimum?



Starvation and homelessness can cause complications that last for months, too.

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the national deficit. And you people act like "opening the economy" means people will just return to normal. People are still not going to go out and businesses will still suffer. However, the difference is enough people will go out that it spreads. Listen to the epidemiologists on this one. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologists. They study this shit for a living.

 

[JambledUpWords]

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the national deficit. And you people act like "opening the economy" means people will just return to normal. People are still not going to go out and businesses will still suffer. However, the difference is enough people will go out that it spreads. Listen to the epidemiologists on this one. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologists. They study this shit for a living.

I don’t think anyone is expecting things to immediately turn to “normal” once this is over. Also, there are other professionals out there that know things epidemiologists don’t. For instance, I think any economist worth their salt would think closing down most of the world’s economy for a year is a bad idea (even if it is to lessen the spread of a virus). My point is, is that you can’t just rely on one type of professional to help this crisis. Also, just because someone is a professional doesn’t mean you have zero right to question them. A professional should be able to back up what they say.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the national deficit.

Two months of that is more than half the national deficit for last year.

And you people act like "opening the economy" means people will just return to normal. People are still not going to go out and businesses will still suffer. However, the difference is enough people will go out that it spreads.

The plan was always to control the spread as to protect the particularly vulnerable as much as possible and to ensure hospitals weren't overwhelmed to the point that they would have to start doing intense triaging. Outside of particularly hard hit areas, we've generally been able to keep the numbers down. We don't have to swing the doors open right away, but we can't stay in this position immediately as if nothing else is moving along with us.

And I suppose that we should continue to be altogether shut down so that said businesses can suffer even more than they may suffer if we gradually and in nuanced fashion loosen restrictions. Because "businesses will still suffer because people aren't going out oh b-b-but enough people will still be going out that the disease will spread some more, which solves nothing in any capacity while just happening to worsen disease spread!".

Listen to the epidemiologists on this one. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologists. They study this shit for a living.

Why should I listen to someone who isn't able nor willing to analyze received information from experts the best he can and not only follows along like a lemming but encourages people to do the same, as if the only angle of this crisis is medical and millions aren't applying for unemployment or just outright losing their jobs and facing economic strife?

 

[Jarolleon]

It's no secret that Google is far left propaganda. Search "American inventors."

Obviously it's based on what people search. It's not that Google is far left propaganda, but that most people who frequently use the internet are far-left, and that includes Google. It's like saying that the history curriculum in American schools is American propaganda /sneed

 

[President Joe Biden]

Getting really tired of unemployed degenerates and teenagers telling me that I should stay in the house because the man on television told them it was too dangerous to go outside. Real talk it's been a month and a half, if they haven't died by now, I don't care. If those people are at risk of dying, maybe they should choose to stay home instead of billions of healthy, low-risk people.


If you think that paying people to stay home is a reasonable or even remotely realistic solution to the current crisis, put a shotgun in your mouth.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Getting really tired of unemployed degenerates and teenagers telling me that I should stay in the house because the man on television told them it was too dangerous to go outside. Real talk it's been a month and a half, if they haven't died by now, I don't care. If those people are at risk of dying, maybe they should choose to stay home instead of billions of healthy, low-risk people.


If you think that paying people to stay home is a reasonable or even remotely realistic solution to the current crisis, put a shotgun in your mouth.

Username checks out, but don't cut yourself on that edge. Your mom doesn't want to have to take you to the ER

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

I'll leave this here

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

Why do you care about local state American politics again given your country just banned a lot of guns. But then again you are probably all for that and should be happy with how Trudeau is running the show. You posted this tweet not for informational purposes but as bait. Not that I have any problems with the message of the tweet itself.

Calm down lol I posted it because it's interesting and I find Trump entertaining, I don't see how that's bait when I didn't express any opinion
Yea I made the gun ban thread and complained about what he did in the OP, actually read it before sperging out

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Obviously it's based on what people search. It's not that Google is far left propaganda, but that most people who frequently use the internet are far-left, and that includes Google. It's like saying that the history curriculum in American schools is American propaganda /sneed

Oh yeah, Google is completely apolitical and its search results are completely organic.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[TowinKarz]

Like I said up thread, if the house passes the UBI bill that will give $2k/month to people until this settles down, your economy fears will not happen.

They'll just happen from the OTHER direction when inflation eats your savings away because now it costs $6 for a coke because the government just printed money as a "solution". It's already going to get worse from the rescue that's already been passed... look for people to bitch in November about how Trump is responsible for all the prices of everything going up post-virus when the real reason is inflation from putting trillions of debt into an already debt-bloated system.

Despite having the closest thing to a justifiable reason to add another 10% to the debt pile, I fully expect hitpieces where economists and journalists who didn't say shit during Obama are now hand whning about our "unsustainable debt and runaway inflation, which all happened under Trump"

 

[OnMoTi]

They do it because the people won't drag them from their homes and string them up. We're a nation of beta bitches who do what we're told, when we're told, and without question. Take the lady in the video as an example. Did she tell the cops to get the fuck off her property or she'd shoot them for trespassing? Or did she barely even argue with them?

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Where in Michigan is the population dense? I've driven all over that state; it's halfway to Mad Max already.

Oakland, Macomb and Wayne Counties. (Greater Detroit area.)

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

For all the romanticizing we see of revolutions and "eating the rich" and "building guillotines" from the modern left and so on, they seem to throw that all the windows when it's "white men with guns" going up against the big mean gubberment

 

[TowinKarz]

They do it because the people won't drag them from their homes and string them up. We're a nation of beta bitches who do what we're told, when we're told, and without question. Take the lady in the video as an example. Did she tell the cops to get the fuck off her property or she'd shoot them for trespassing? Or did she barely even argue with them?

I'd say it's less us being cucks and more us still having faith (right or wrong) in our court systems to sort it out. We'll only see actual shots fired if that faith is lost, across the board. Every right-leaner with a brain I know says that even when the cops are hassling you, the "winning" move is not to be belligerent or attack them, but comply....comply...comply, and as soon as they leave, document everything and call a lawyer....

Only the dummies think the right thing to do is fight back with the cop.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

For all the romanticizing we see of revolutions and "eating the rich" and "building guillotines" from the modern left and so on, they seem to throw that all the windows when it's "white men with guns" going up against the big mean gubberment

That's by design. When the majority of the country is white, turning white people into the villain and having lots of whites agree with it thanks to years and years of education and media brainwashing is a real tyrant's 4D chess move. All those social media drones whining that if this were black people they would've all been killed (which as I already proved is wrong) is part of the desired Pavlovian response.

I'd say it's less us being cucks and more us still having faith (right or wrong) in our court systems to sort it out. We'll only see actual shots fired if that faith is lost, across the board. Every right-leaner with a brain I know says that even when the cops are hassling you, the "winning" move is not to be belligerent or attack them, but comply....comply...comply, and as soon as they leave, document everything and call a lawyer....

Only the dummies think the right thing to do is fight back with the cop.

I think it has more to do with most people not being willing to literally lay down their lives to make a political point. It's the same reason normies don't rise in violent revolution and have a day of the rope over drag kids. Not because most people like or approve of it (even on the left there are a lot of people that hate it, freaking Jason Unruhe the commie called the people celebrating it pedos who should be strung up) but because it actually personally effects very few people and the cost of doing something about it is too great.

For a popular revolution to happen, there has to be government overreach that impacts a fairly large number of normies in a way that's immediately and clearly visible in their lives. Which coincidentally is what Michigan is on the knife's edge of right now.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I don’t think anyone is expecting things to immediately turn to “normal” once this is over. Also, there are other professionals out there that know things epidemiologists don’t. For instance, I think any economist worth their salt would think closing down most of the world’s economy for a year is a bad idea (even if it is to lessen the spread of a virus). My point is, is that you can’t just rely on one type of professional to help this crisis. Also, just because someone is a professional doesn’t mean you have zero right to question them. A professional should be able to back up what they say.

Don't even assume all epidemiologists are in favor of endless lockdowns.

For all the romanticizing we see of revolutions and "eating the rich" and "building guillotines" from the modern left and so on, they seem to throw that all the windows when it's "white men with guns" going up against the big mean gubberment

Hey man, good to know that all we have to do to suppress the great moment when the "workers" (lazy appartment dwellers) of the "world" (urbanized, developed nations) rise up is just unleash a "plague" that kills ~0.4% of those infected and watch them all give up and go back to living in fear.