Culture I am Gen Z. Men in my generation are not dating. Why should we?

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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
I will reiterate this again. But one of the most overlooked factors to the decline in relationships/marriages/births is that everyone (men and women) are getting disgustingly fat and no one wants to fuck each other. The supply of fit men and women who most find fuckable is shrinking at a rapid rate, and many men and women would rather die alone than lower their standards to be with a whale.

Men are more willing to lower standards than women historically, which is why we have this surge of ugly/fat women thinking they are higher status than they really are.

Thats only really in America though. There's a birth crisis everywhere. The birth rate is lowest in South Korea. I don't think South Korea is getting fatter.
 
I note that the author advises that 63% of young men identify as single whereas only half that rate of young women do.
I note that he also glosses over this as if it wasn’t relevant.

What it tells me is that there are a lot of women out there that consider themselves in a relationship when they’re actually in a harem. I wonder if that’s because they’d rather be Chad’s side chick with a chance of dethroning his top bitch, than be in a conventional relationship with an average, hardworking guy.
This is what all these articles always miss, and all the female kiwis always seem to gloss over. They cope with "w-we're just dating eachother because modern men are worthless", of course, but if you look at the rate of single men to women it's crystal clear:

Women have willingly become concubines once again.
 
Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
Always with what men can do. Never a word about what women can do. And not only no word on what women can do, but a distortion of the reasons men do what they do. Men are choosing porn over women because it's a lot easier. It doesn't beat you and cry victim. It doesn't withhold sex to get what it wants. It doesn't spend all your money or think it owns you because you had sex with it. Or how about falling marriage rates. When will alimony be done away with? When will unfair asset division be done away with. The highest predictor for suicide in men is divorce. Perhaps a lot of Gen Z men have seen their fathers, uncles, older brothers and the family members of their friends go through the cleaners. Yet is the GOP gonna do away with alimony and such? No. They'll give us no fault divorce as if that is a solution. To paraphrase something I saw on twitter "men are working harder for women worth less than their mothers and grandmothers." There is porn, there is casual sex, there is cohabitating, there is prostitution in neighboring countries. If a man desires children, he can have them out of wedlock and he'll get the same amount of visitation just without the costly divorce. Or there is adoption and surrogacy.

Meanwhile women move on and fuck each other
Where? Majority of homosexuals are men, not women. Where is this lezzie paradise?
 
I note that the author advises that 63% of young men identify as single whereas only half that rate of young women do.
I note that he also glosses over this as if it wasn’t relevant.

What it tells me is that there are a lot of women out there that consider themselves in a relationship when they’re actually in a harem. I wonder if that’s because they’d rather be Chad’s side chick with a chance of dethroning his top bitch, than be in a conventional relationship with an average, hardworking guy.
Yes, this is the case. There is nothing that makes a vagina dryer than a middle class accountant yes-man type who drives a mini SUV crossover and is obsessed with craft beer and badger brushes. I’m not saying it’s fair but it is what it is. I’m not saying that a society guided on some thot’s tingles is going to be a sane or stable one; as we’ve seen, it is basically taking us into a hellscape. Since we’ve decided that a woman’s tingles is very important in modern society, we’ll have to see what depths we’ll plumb until we realize coverture, shidduch, and sharia are/were important concepts for a reason.
Where? Majority of homosexuals are men, not women. Where is this lezzie paradise?
It doesn’t exist, it’s a larger pool of women getting attached or being a side piece to a smaller group of guys. Nobody wants to admit it because we’ve created virtual harems thanks to feminism and sexual liberation.
 
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Conservatives are massive TERF cucks that don't want to kill babies, and this moron proves it once again.
Ask a conservative if women should have to be drafted (or take any kind of responsibility to a problem) and they'll say "no of course not, men and women are different!"
Ask a conservative if women should be able to vote (or have any equivalent power to men) and they'll say "well of course, women are important and should have all the same rights!"

Conservatives, just like feminists, will always refuse to place any kind of responsibility on women and blame men.
 
Thats only really in America though. There's a birth crisis everywhere. The birth rate is lowest in South Korea. I don't think South Korea is getting fatter.

And they all have plastic surgery. So they look like android clones or something.

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It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences
With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability.
Journo, there is a difference between being stupid, and being a paint-licking retard.
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Take your tongue off the paint can, sir.
 
Thats only really in America though. There's a birth crisis everywhere. The birth rate is lowest in South Korea. I don't think South Korea is getting fatter.
Nearly every developed countries have low birth rates but it really comes down to society and materialistic expectation. High cost of living isn't an excuse for no babies. We as society has had high cost of living for like forever.

If Jews can almost outproduce babies against sandniggers, it's pretty clear it's simply society collectively forgoing babies because it's fucking hard.

And it's hard to raise babies. Babies cost money. Family cost money. A marriage without baby could be some of the best life experiences. So many couples now forgo babies.
 
Conservatives are massive TERF cucks that don't want to kill babies, and this moron proves it once again.
Ask a conservative if women should have to be drafted (or take any kind of responsibility to a problem) and they'll say "no of course not, men and women are different!"
Ask a conservative if women should be able to vote (or have any equivalent power to men) and they'll say "well of course, women are important and should have all the same rights!"

Conservatives, just like feminists, will always refuse to place any kind of responsibility on women and blame men.
reminds me of this gem
 
This is what all these articles always miss, and all the female kiwis always seem to gloss over. They cope with "w-we're just dating eachother because modern men are worthless", of course, but if you look at the rate of single men to women it's crystal clear:

Women have willingly become concubines once again.

A woman would rather be the king's concubine than the potter's wife.
 
Where? Majority of homosexuals are men, not women. Where is this lezzie paradise?
It's a Gen Z thing. From my previous source:
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Granted, this is self-identification and may not represent their actual lifestyle (or, for a small minority of respondents, their biological sex), but taking them at their word Gen Z is the lezziest generation in history. Probably more so than Greek women of the 6th century BC. Certainly more than indicated in older American surveys (e.g. this one from 2011, which reports 3.4% of women and 3.6% of men are homosexual or bisexual.)
 
I see nothing wrong with what he said. Young men unironically need to start following some boomer advice and get a fucking grip, or they really will all end up incels at 40.
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And men young and old alike need to unironically stop giving a shit about the most basal, carnal, fruitless act a man can indulge in as if it'll fill the hole in their lives. Get a hobby, read some books on serious topics, learn some shit, grow as a person, etc etc.
When The Big Sugar Daddy goes bankrupt, all those literal millions of make-work jobs for women and niggers disappear. From shoe shopping on Friday afternoons, it’ll be standing in line for bread and if they suck the commissar’s dick, they might just get an end piece.
It's happened before to other empires and it'll happen soon to The West™.
The actual reason this shit is happening is not due to technology, Jews, or even propoganda and social engineering. It hasn't helped anything, what has happened is over time women were basically treated above reproach, and have continued down a slippery slope.
You say that as if "treating women above reproach", both applies on a societal-wide scale, and as if though it's something completely separate and distinct from technological advancement, propaganda, and social engineering.

This is a work of many hands affecting many lives done by people who didn't recognize where it would lead because learning from history is for retards.

It's also a situation that has come about in every society past a certain scale as it developed into an increasingly centralized and effective civilization. When the roads get safer, when message delivery gets faster, when things are generally more prosperous, this shit always happens.

And seemingly one of the reasons for this is this fucking irritating prevalence of the incapacity of people to think laterally. To think vertically. And importantly, to think in terms of hundreds of thousands/millions of individual people, families, towns, etc and how they all have interacted with the society around them as people taking part in it.

Any one solid point brought up and slapped over this shit like we're living in a FlexTape™ commercial ignores every single other factor that has gone into the current state of affairs, how societies in ages past ended up in an eerily similar state, how we ended up here ourselves with our current context, and how these "problems" all become resolved.

It's always societal collapse, an aggressive and destructive regression to the mean. Because from advertising, political ideologies acting in an opportunistic manner, to government doing the same, to natural human inclinations interpolating with these forces, to individual aspirations clashing with collective requisites for a healthy society, and on and on, this is the end result of widening the social circle, shortening the distance between areas, centralizing cultures into a monoculture, and empowering government that results in this shit happening, among a few other influences that I'm not going to bother listing.

People don't like hearing this shit because it means not only is the problem insolvable and must run its course, not only is it a problem that doesn't have an easy "x is caused by y" answer so that someone other than themselves can catch the blame, but also that ultimately there was nothing anyone could've done to stop it when the seeds for it happening were planted over a hundred fucking years ago as it's a force of nature rivaling the seasons or the tide.

In over 5,000 fucking years nobody has solved this problem nor located a singular answer as to who/what is to blame when it happens. Nobody here of all places will be the one to crack that nut. As much thought and over the years casual research I've done into the topic it's apparent to me that problems like this that arise before the fall of civilizations are akin to weather patterns. Sure you can say an El Nino was going on and that made a hurricane worse, or that a front came in and pushed it in x direction more than it would've otherwise traveled, but ultimately no one individual or even any groups of people could've pinpointed the day, the hour, the conditions that resulted in that particular storm nor where/when it'd hit.

Edit: And to add, I'm including myself in that. I have my own speculations and theories on it but it's such a complicated topic interwoven into the very fabric of so many other areas of society in so many ways with so many influences from the individual on up to the entirety of the civilization/society we live in that I'm still no more correct or incorrect, I assume, than anyone else in any specific pointing at what the cause is other than the objective fact that it's not just one singular influence/causal root/event/etc.
 
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It's just this, over and over, until the sun explodes.
I wish I could give this multiple ratings.

Winner because you're sadly right, feels because it's sad, and optimistic because deep down you know this shit will continue as we'll find a way to continue this retarded bullshit in Alpha fucking Centauri.
 
Why is the onus only ever on men to fix things? It takes two to tango, especially where dating is concerned, and all the effort in the world by men would be meaningless if women refuse to reciprocate.
A women will never admit fault, so it must be someone elses issue to fix. But they never stop their, they must insult men as well as expect them to fix it all and make them happy.

The fall of the west is directly linked to letting women vote. The most coddled people on earth.
 
It's a Gen Z thing. From my previous source:
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Granted, this is self-identification and may not represent their actual lifestyle (or, for a small minority of respondents, their biological sex), but taking them at their word Gen Z is the lezziest generation in history. Probably more so than Greek women of the 6th century BC. Certainly more than indicated in older American surveys (e.g. this one from 2011, which reports 3.4% of women and 3.6% of men are homosexual or bisexual.)
So they're still sleeping with men, and not a rejection of men as the person I quoted was implying.
 
men can fix this ... go talk to girls in real life.
What girls in real life? Am I supposed to wish them into existence, is that part of the "easy fix"?
Might be my own folly as a self-pigeonholed large city dweller but there's a complete lack of single girls engaging in any sort of outdoor activity I enjoy, like live music.

The whole article is spent pointing out the disaster that dating apps and fake online culture poses for human relations, which is real and true, and then it tells you to lol just pretend like it isn't happening bro. I can, and intend to, live out the rest of my life without fucking random holes. I want a wholesome romantic relationship built on mutual love and trust and so far I haven't had the luck. The "situation" is looking unfavorable is all. It'd be nice if people, starting with journos, would snap out of this weird doublethink and admit that it's just not all fucking peachy if we can already agree there is a massive problem going on affecting almost everyone.
 
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