I dont get why so many hate anime?

They don't. It's entirely a trap to piss off those kinds of anime fans. A well-adjusted weeaboo won't care that his personal fixation is being made fun of because he's not a faggot. It's like going into harlem and saying nigger.

Of course, there always those who hate anime because they have no real agency and are following Correct Opinion™ for their chosen space. But that's not unique to anti japtoon people.
 
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There are a few good animes but a majority of them are full of degeneracy and the people who say they watch anime often are usually freaks of nature. If you like anime and you're not weird about it I see no reason to feel like you have to defend yourself though.
 
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Iron Jaguar said:
It's like Harley-Davidsons: it's not so much that we hate the thing itself as that we hate the people who are into it.
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Tablet County said:
They don't. It's entirely a trap to piss off those kinds of anime fans. A well-adjusted weeaboo won't care that his personal fixation is being made fun of because he's not a faggot. It's like going into harlem and saying nigger.

Of course, there always those who hate anime because they have no real agency and are following Correct Opinion™ for their chosen space. But that's not unique to anti japtoon people.
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Filthy Frank said it best: there's a difference between someone who likes anime and disgusting, maladjusted weeaboo trash. The former often despise the latter, either as a means of trollshielding or because they sincerely hate that something they like is associated with filth.
 
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Disregarding the modern anime fanbase which everyone already knows sucks, I'd say my biggest problem with anime is when it tries to be taken seriously, Japanese writers are horrible at the concept of "show, don't tell". Anime is rarely subtle, and tends to have the issue of "characters that exposition dump to the audience" which is contrived. Now this wasn't a problem when most of the anime we got in the west in the 90s-2000s was pretty trashy, but fun ultraviolent OVAs. Which I still have a soft spot for stuff like Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D, Ghost In The Shell, etc because those genuinely have some of the best classic cel animation you can watch. As far as pure dumb id; spectacle with maybe some ideas that might make you think a bit, anime like that is great fun, it's just not very deep.
 
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like everything else its because of the fans. same shit happens to music. think about all the bands you liked growing up only to discover their fan base was filled with some of the most annoying people on earth. anime is like that but worse due to its content and popularity.

its why i usually make it a point to not involve myself too much with fans of anything i enjoy because 9 times out of 10 the fans are so insufferable it ruins my ability to enjoy the thing.
 
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Mainly because it's super degenerate in a way Western media isn't. Even if it's not degenerate and even if you can be a fan of something while being critical of it, it makes me feel icky to enjoy something that sits next to lolicon and lots of other degeneracy from both the fans and the creators. The Clone Wars was made by a furry who makes everything he possibly can wolf-themed and has a teenage alien girl who's always shirtless, yet I don't feel ashamed of liking that. Gene Roddenberry was a notorious sex pest who tended to infuse that into his work, yet I don't feel ashamed of liking Star Trek. I see the utter flaws in the Star Wars sequel trilogy, yet I still like several aspects of it as well as its untapped potential. Maybe it's the art style, maybe it's the focus on underage characters even if they're not sexualized (seriously, I can only name two anime with desexualized characters that clearly look and act like adults: Obsolete and AWOL: Absent Without Leave), but anime's reputation is well-earned and something needs to change. I'd say the globalization of anime would be a good catalyst for change, but that will probably make anime double down on its flaws while eliminating anything good since most weebs enjoy anime's flaws more than anything else. Why else would normie weebs latch onto poorly written garbage like Code Geass and get filtered by slightly meatier shows like G-Reco? Also, by the way, the overwhelming obsessiveness of anime fans is a good indication of anime's degeneracy -- you're usually this obsessed with something if you're a Lee Goldson-tier autist or you have a fetish for it. Anything you sexualize becomes deadly serious because sex is deadly serious, and combined with anime's tendency to encourage self-insertion and the overwhelming amount of it for which you have no osmotic reference, you get utter obsession. Am I the only weeb who can't help but cringe at how other weebs tend to coat their walls in anime posters and manga panels (the latter of which is both tacky and obsessive in a way that would make a 5-year-old who needs their teddy bear blush) and relate any creative project back to anime?
 
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Meth Dick said:
Anime fans themselves give it a bad name.
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I don't think Hawaiians would be anime haters, since they're so apathetic to how they're getting fucked over by their State Government to care, just as long as they can buy booze. Now Koreans hating anime, I can understand, because they're still salty as fuck for what Japan did to them even after many years later, and are also rivals in terms of their own entertainment industry being completely manufactured with Government influence. Yet the Koreans hold an old grudge even longer than China does towards Japan, despite Chinese netizens also having their Japan-hate moments that are aided by CCP propaganda.

One other reason, is that some people feel that anime is too safe in terms of their stories, and don't try to "innovate" with things such as introducing obese medics with pronouns and making songs about female periods. There's probably people that genuinely hold more respect for Western Woke media like Concord, Dustborn, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, (mainly the unaired trans volleyball player episode and the period song where sanitary pads are used as wings for some reason) Cuties, Dragon Age Veilguard, Ghostbusters 2016, The Last of Us Part 2, and how The Sims 4 has gone full-on rainbow with their game.
 
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It's a few things at once. First, there's the fanbase. Die-hard anime fans are often weird, spergy losers you wouldn't want your kid around. It's gone more mainstream and there may be a few that reach an audience of people who actually get laid, but this perception lives on. Anime also has an image problem, where most people see it as being entirely giant robots, ninjas, and large-breasted chicks who get raped by tentacle monsters. There are a lot of good stories told in anime, but when it is about sex or gore, it goes far in ways even German scheisse porn producers would never dream of. The west also still has this idea that adult (and not in a pornographic way) stories are portrayed only by live actors and cartoons are for children.
 
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I see the same reasonable answer across the board. If Japanese anime cut out the creepy gooner retard-shit it would be trustable. I've seen headlines for a Chinese movie called Nezha 2 breaking records in animation box office sales upon theater release world-wide; showing up even the likes of Pixar. From seeing the trailer alone I wonder why there aren't more fighting-oriented animated action movies for all ages just like this, you know? I can understand the appeal of even a series like Naruto on the western audience but even then it's had suspicious shit when I watched it as a teen. There is no excuse and Japan will be left behind while China takes over the medium world-wide if they don't learn to knock that shit off.
 
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Meth Dick said:
I've never known a fan of anime that wasn't obsessed with it and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.
Anime fans themselves give it a bad name.
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That's just being a fan. You wouldn't know someone is just a normal enjoyer of X precisely because they aren't obsessed about it and do shut up about it.
 
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Anime is a teen thing. It's basically cartoons with violence and adult themes. It's a natural progression from the sunday morning cartoons to something like hellsing or naruto. that's the reason I liked anime as a teen at least but I sort of grew out of it now and I find most of the shows boring. Although on rare occasion I might watch some classic stuff like ghost in the shell or akira out of nostalgia
 
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