I dont get why so many hate anime?

[stupid fufu]

My personal reason for hating anime is that any series I try to get into always has a shit ending so it made me completely drop the genre. It's a waste of time getting invested when about 80% of the time it's going to have a shit ending. These fucking gooks only know how to write on a per chapter basis and never figured out how to end their stories, it's something that's plagued the industry since its inception.

 

[skykiii]

My personal reason for hating anime is that any series I try to get into always has a shit ending so it made me completely drop the genre.

Yeah this was a big factor in my own falling out with anime.

Steins;gate is the first thing I think of here. I loved the first two thirds of it but then as it was starting to wrap up I'm like "this is lame."

............

This is genuinely a topic I find hard to add to, partly because I've talked about anime at length before and partly because most people have already said what I would say.

Bad endings, lack of subtlety....

And also there's just some quirks with the writing that bug me. It kind of goes into the "tropeyness" thing others have mentioned but....

I can't recall if I said this (I believe I did) but I use Saint Seiya as an example: the first arc has a villain named Ikki the Phoenix, who turned evil because of child abuse. But when Seiya finally confronts him and they have a chance to talk... it degrades into Seiya just screaming "but friendship is good, you have to have friends!" while Ikki says "I'll show you the power of a lone wolf!"

But... first of all that's retarded--Ikki had followers and thus probably did have friends on some level. He was not a "lone wolf." Secondly, nothing either of them discuss actually addresses the issue that the organization behind the Saints did some shitty things and got justified retribution for it. It's like it side-steps any actual discussion and instead just resorts to empty platitudes.

A lot of anime have this problem. This is where in some of my recent topics I get off preferring western animation like He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. When Teela and Evil-Lyn get a chance to talk in the episode "the Witch and the Warrior"... they actually discuss their differing POVs in a meaningful sense that relate to them. Teela doesn't just throw lame platitudes about goodness at her.

 

[Fae Supremacist]

The overwhelming majority of anime released is disposable moe/shonen garbage meant for mass consumption and gratification and leaves zero legacy or room for deeper analysis, it's been like this in Nippon for ages but anime has gotten mainstream worldwide for a good decade now, so you see it here too. Most anime is "bad", the same way most live action movies, music, books etc. are "bad", they're bland and inoffensive and not worth existing past their expiration date, but only anime still have fans that cling to the medium as an identity.
Weebs are relics from a past era where anime was considered weird, and oppositely the loud "anti-anime" people are terminally online "trad' rightoids.

And of course you have "ironic weebs" online that appropriate anime imagery as some sort of aesthetic or signifier without engaging with the medium at all.

 

[DefinitelyNotMe]

i already posted my history with anime so ill just summarize it
was 16 watched 3 anime shows - guren lagen, full metal panic and evangelion
first 2 was fine but evangelion made me quit because of how shit it was, story sucks, main character is sad attempt of a human and the only appeal that i could saw is just waifu bait
and that is manipulation in its purest form and i cant stand it when someone tries to manipulate me, thats why i hate all the gay shit in western media. And japs are just trying to manipulate me with cartoon women. And realizing it made me aware that i dont want to be the person who watches something just to look at some old ass dude dude fantasy of a schoolgirl. thats just disgusting.
honestly im surprised with myself at 16 for coming to this conclusion and would give myself a pat on the back for that if i could go back, cause i was at the prime age that they were trying to target. And if i looked at myself from some alternative reality that didnt made this realization at the time, i would probably be not happy with how i would turned out.

 

[ZMOT]

The overwhelming majority of anime released is disposable moe/shonen garbage meant for mass consumption and gratification and leaves zero legacy or room for deeper analysis

sturgeon's law is universal.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It's an easy target for online debates and an easy thing to virtue signal about.

"I don't like anime because fanservice/chauvinism" is like saying "I don't like movies because Capeshit". It's your own opinion what you like or not, but expanding it to the entire medium is just fucking retarded. Ditto complaining about the fans. As if no other media has retarded fans, and ignoring that the cringe ones will always stick out.

 

[555777555]

Anime is degenerate.

 

[skykiii]

Anime is degenerate.

There's a funny thought I have about this.

Thing is, anime has kinda poisoned the well on a lot of things.

Like years ago, saying "Konata Izumi is so cute! I wanna hug her!" would've been just that--no different than saying you wanna pet a kitten.

But because of anime's reputation, you say that now and people immediately assume a sexual attraction. Before anime I had never heard "cute" used to mean "sexy" or "beautiful"--it only ever meant the same thing as the kitten example.

And like, I get it. I've unfortunately seen the degenerate stuff and its something that makes me wonder what the hell made Japan so fucked up. To be fair apparently a lot of the more degenerate stuff like Kodomo no Jikan is controversial in Japan as well, and they hated the ending to Bunny Drop just as much as westerners did (to the point where the anime preferred to just not adapt the second half of the manga).

Still its... kind of strange that no editors ever stepped in to ask the manga authors "Like... really, what are you doing?"

(The sad thing is Kodomo no Jikan actually starts off with a premise that could've worked, when early on it looks like its going a direction of the main girl actually being seriously disturbed and the dude resisting her affections while trying to help her.... but the author--who I think is a woman--decided to lean into the pedo romance angle and just fucked everything).

 

[MadStan]

Anime is very grown up and mature. Why there is nothing wrong at all with a grown adult into these cartoons. Completely normal. Why when I think of a man, I literally imagine a responsible grown adult carrying out his civic duties, raising his family, being an important part of his team at work...who then goes home to watch anime, why the two realities are completely compatible.

At least, they are compatible...in an anime cartoon.

 

[Wild at Heart]

I know you were literally born yesterday, but I will go ahead and assume this isn't bait of some sort.

• Anime is made for children, so it has goofy tropes and over explains things like a kid's show would. Most popular anime are from Shonen Jump, a kid's magazine, so most mainstream anime are childish by nature. This turns off a lot of adults or teenagers who don't want to be pandered to like a child.
  
  
• Loli shit and pedo shit is played for comedy in Japan, America hates it and is grossed out by underage girls. America W.
  
  
• Fan Service is also off putting to a lot of "Westerners." Especially upskirts and booba shit towards, yet again, underage girls.
  
  
• Dubs suck ass and most people new to anime cannot handle reading subs, bad attention span generation.
  
  
• Anime fans are stinky and awkward, and I felt "too old" to go with my anime fan friends to a con when I was 19.
  
  
• Modern anime are all formulaic and chasing trends for profit. Shonen are all similar, Isekai, Romance, and Ecchi. Same shit different day.

I only like about 4 or 5 anime, the common thread is they all treat the viewer like an able minded person who can make connections on their own. They also have amazing world building and consistent logic to the rules of the world. It takes a truly clever mangaka or showrunner to make such a consistent universe and not ruin it by the end.

 

[Commander X]

"Fans" who only like 1-2 shounen and constantly snipe at anyone who watches or reads anything else have always been a staple of anime fandom communities but it’s very different now because there’s 5000x as many, they’re far more resentful, and they all post the exact same way - they act like anything produced before an arbitrary year is "ancient" and stupid, they freak out about any other show being "muh fuh Epstein Diddy shit" like some of these people did in regards to Dandadan. They'll spend all day complaining about how the medium they claim to be a fan of is full of lousy shows and every other anime fan is problematic or a gooner and so on.

Current-day "shonenheads"/"shonentards"/"hood weebs"/etc should not be compared to the "Toonamicels" or whatever of yesteryear as they're entirely a byproduct of the post-2020 social media environment. At least the people who watched shows on Toonami and what have you in years past actually seemed to enjoy anime instead of coming off as fad chasers.

 

[A serious hat]

Personally, anime just creeps me out. I don’t like the look, the style, the obnoxiousness of it, it’s always set my teeth on edge, I have had a visceral dislike of it from the first time I ever became aware of its existence. Japan and its culture has always weirded me out in a vague way, maybe that’s part of it? IDK.

It became a thing here in the mid-late 90’s I wanna say, Sailor Moon and stuff like that was kinda popular with the nerds and weirdos in HS, and there was a store in the mall for it. It wasn’t ubiquitous then like it is now, and the fans of it were creepy so that probably didn’t help its image for me. But honestly it’s just never appealed to me, and seeing the anime to troon pipeline kind of just solidifies my original belief that it’s not good. I definitely tell my kids to steer clear of it and use the “typical anime enthusiast” as a cautionary tale of what can happen if you consume that stuff. Maybe I’m a little too OTT about it but I don’t want tranny kids or weeaboos.

However if people like it, I’m not gonna hate on them for it. I’m a Trekkie so I mean, I’ve got my own cringe thing going on so who am I to judge? It’s just not for me personally, and I don’t want my kids watching it but whatever others are into, have at it. If you like it, cool, definitely enjoy it.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

About five years ago Anime became ubiquitous enough to hate.

If you live in a town with no Blacks, you barely think about Blacks.
If you live in a town with a couple Blacks, they are a curious novelty in life.
If you live in a town chock full of Blacks, a sizable portion of them will be Niggers;
at which point, it's time to complain about all these fucking Niggers.
If you set out to defend the Blacks, people will worry you're running cover for the Niggers.
And the more Blacks you get, the more Niggers too.

Life is short and times are tough, so the verdict has come down: 'Kill all the Blacks and you'll kill all the Niggers.'

And that's why you have TAD (Total Anime Death)

 

[MTN Dew Rat]

About five years ago Anime became ubiquitous enough to hate.

If you live in a town with no Blacks, you barely think about Blacks.
If you live in a town with a couple Blacks, they are a curious novelty in life.
If you live in a town chock full of Blacks, a sizable portion of them will be Niggers;
at which point, it's time to complain about all these fucking Niggers.
If you set out to defend the Blacks, people will worry you're running cover for the Niggers.
And the more Blacks you get, the more Niggers too.

Life is short and times are tough, so the verdict has come down: 'Kill all the Blacks and you'll kill all the Niggers.'

And that's why you have TAD (Total Anime Death)

This is such a Kiwi Farms way of explaining it but so perfect. Bravo

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Anime is a 3rd regurgitation of a gifted mangaka's original vision, watered down and dragged out to bait cliffhangers and manga investments. The only anime I can watch anymore is shonen for the action, which I don't anymore cause shonen is mainstream bait, or original movies. Manga as the 5 seasons following a 250 chapter manga is a waste of time. You can read 1 season's worth in the manga in ~40 minutes AND see specifically what the mangaka drew for you to see. And if there's 5 romances going on, you'll see the canon one instead of the anime studio picking whichever is the most marketable.

To watch anime for the anime, you're favoring worse media. That's why making a life out of anime without manga is lunacy. You know, like watching a kid's spiderman show instead of reading the comic books. They're literally picture books, it's not text on paper. If you don't prefer the better media, you're a kid.

 

[SolidSnakeXbox]

Anime is degenerate.

You telling me this sick ass opening is degen?

 

[Raging Capybara]

There's not a single HBO series without full frontal nudity and hardcore sex scenes, but people still makes these retarded arguments nips are too "eek deviants".

I guess these people only watch Disney and capeshit.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Eh classic anime are weird and good.

But most modern anime are either cringe, poorly written, or relate to the japanese life more than anything.

Being anime or indie doesn't excuse poor writing. Asians can't write stuff like eldritch horror, medieval fantasy, etc.

I'm tired of classic anime tropes, like the pervy dude, the autistic protagonist without personality that everyone loves, the bully that is bitter and mean fnr, etc.

Japanese culture can be too much. Everything in highschool/revolving around highschool. The chinese myths are only so entertaining; imagine if everything fantasy from the west was just fairy tales, etc.

 

[Travoltron]

There's an element of xenophobia from the haters, and many anime have a high bar of entry needing cultural knowledge to appreciate. Especially the comedies.

I say this as someone now set in his ways and somewhat xenophobic myself. Supposedly there's this great stuff coming out in other countries, but I don't want to watch Squid Game or RRR. American and Japanese media are my wheelhouse now.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

The anime to troon/pooner pipeline is real...

I want to like anime more, but for every gem of a series that's really unusual (like Mushishi or Mononoke,) there's a generic shonen with 800 episodes, most of which are filler, a dating sim series that cuts out the sex (which was, sadly, the best part of the original dating sim,) or an intriguing first season series that cuts off with no sequel. (Want to find out what happens? You'll have to read the manga! Lol!)