I hate how people casually use sci and corpo terminology

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Like for example: a positive feeling is never described as exhuberance or elation or euphoria or anything like that anymore... its always "a dopamine hit." This grand feeling has been reduced to just chemical programming. Like we're all robots who can be manipulated to feel a certain way just by pressing Button X.

Gonna be honest... I don't even think Dopamine is real. We didn't trust science about Covid, why should we trust it about anything else?

And then there's something I often see in media discussions--the use of the term "IP" (short for Intellectual Property). I fucking hate this. "Saga," "Series," or even "Franchise" are better--the former two at least can sort of invoke a grand epic or something artistic ("franchise" not so much). "Intellectual Property" sounds like robot lawyer speak and inherently devalues whatever you're talking about. It should only ever be used as an insult.

And I'm sure if I thought enough, I could come up with more--modern people seem to use a lot of this robot speak. Its like being on the TV Tropes forum but worse, with terminology that seems specifically intended to take the "spirit" out of everything.

No wonder everything sucks--we as a culture kind of accepted that it is so, to the point where we can't even speak about anything in ways that aren't inherently degrading. Imagine if you started referring to your children as "my chattle" or "my slaves," that's about what the modern world is like. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people nowadays actually do that.

What really bothers me is I seem to be the only person bothered by this.

Can we all agree that if you want to fight evil ideologies, the very first thing you must do is stop using that ideology's language?
 
And then there's something I often see in media discussions--the use of the term "IP" (short for Intellectual Property). I fucking hate this. "Saga," "Series," or even "Franchise" are better--the former two at least can sort of invoke a grand epic or something artistic
Because they shouldn't invoke anything grand, epic, or artistic. They don't merit it.

Referring to modern media as nothing but corporate product is entirely appropriate.
 
Gonna be honest... I don't even think Dopamine is real. We didn't trust science about Covid, why should we trust it about anything else?
I hate edgy people who think like this.
Can we all agree that if you want to fight evil ideologies, the very first thing you must do is stop using that ideology's language?
We can agree that you will lose either way.
 
Because they shouldn't invoke anything grand, epic, or artistic. They don't merit it.

Referring to modern media as nothing but corporate product is entirely appropriate.
Maybe, but I could also argue that it trains people to give in and not even try and attempt rising above the level the moniker implies. If I were to be an artist, I would want to make "a saga," not "an intellectual property."

Also, I just want to kill whenever I hear the phrase "the Lord of the Rings IP." Even if that technically fits Warner's molestation of the work, the phrase technically includes Tolkien's original as well, and that's just wrong.

I hate edgy people who think like this.
.... when I posted this, I expected to be called several things, but "edgy" just kinda confuses me.
 
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Also, I just want to kill whenever I hear the phrase "the Lord of the Rings IP." Even if that technically fits Warner's molestation of the work, the phrase technically includes Tolkien's original as well
It technically doesn't because "The Lord of the Rings" as a concept now exists as multiple separate IPs licensed by multiple companies.

Again, I can't think of any term more appropriate for corporate slop than precisely the soulless lingo of corporations.
 
Can we all agree that if you want to fight evil ideologies, the very first thing you must do is stop using that ideology's language?
I am with you on this. It's why, when people ask where I'm from, I am hesitant to name a 'country', since the concept of countries is part of the evil ideology that dominates the world.

I hate it when people say they "googled" for something. But I hate even more that they actually use Alphabet Inc products.
 
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…what? Is this a serious question?
It's half-serious.

Like I'm sure there's some densely-worded paper hidden behind a paywall that if I looked it up, would show why they think dopamine is real.

That would not change the more emotional/spiritual point I brought up first though--that its ultimately resulted in a more miserable global outlook. When something has that kind of negative consequence, does it matter if its true or not?
 
Gonna be honest... I don't even think Dopamine is real.
To be entirely fair, dopamine doesn't work in the way it's used in popular slang. It's a part of the larger reward system. If you hyperactivate dopamine receptors (like is common with drugs of abuse), you hyperactivate the system, but when you win at a game or eat something good or have sex, you activate the entire reward pathway, of which dopamine is just a modulating neurotransmitter in one part of the pathway. You're not just dripping dopamine into the entire brain.

But it IS real; we give it to Parkinson's patients to ease their tremors, as one example. Not trusting all of science because of some political opinion on COVID is the height of absurdity.
 
I'll do that sometimes, but it's a consequence of having to write a lot of legal and contractual documents in my IRL job. The style and language just percolates into my personal writing.

However I do think the use of "dopamine hit" is a good insult that reduces the activity in question to its mindless and meaningless reality.
 
I don't think it's a big problem, honestly. George Orwell // Eric Blair was profoundly wrong about the nature of newspeak and how it would prohibit people from expression. He even defeats his own argument in his book by saying "I guess you could say big brother double plus ungood, but it would be farcical" or something like that.

It doesn't matter when someone expresses pleasure as a dopamine hit. Because:

A. You know what they mean with it
B. Someone using this language tells you something about how they perceive the world
C. It has only barely a relation to the scientific concept.

Because dopamine isn't released for a pleasureable/rewarding activity: it is released before one to make you seek that activity. Dopamine is what causes the craving when you see the dessert in the fridge when you're clearing the table and normally get one.



Equally it's telling that you describe elation, exuberance, euphoria as a grand feeling. I don't know if I'm the only one, but to me that looks like a very hedonistic world view, to put pleasure on such a high pedestal. It's just good feelings. Why require a kind of reverence for them?




Can we all agree that if you want to fight evil ideologies, the very first thing you must do is stop using that ideology's language?
I don't think fighting evil is a 10 step plan, so much as a cycle of activities where you can either spiral upward or downward.

The better you get at discerning what is and isn't evil, the better you get at knowing what you want to purge from your life, or the world, the more you purge, the stronger and wiser you become, the wiser you are the better you get at discerning.

Also, you need to talk to, work with, deal with people inside that evil. Some are wittingly evil, some are unwittingly so. You can't pull /invite people out if you don't connect with them, and you can't connect with them if you don't apeak their language. And you'll find plenty of evil in the hearts of the people inside your "good" ideology, just as you'll find plenty of evil inside your own heart.
 
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a dopamine hit." This grand feeling has been reduced to just chemical programming. Like we're all robots who can be manipulated to feel a certain way just by pressing Button X
I always took dopamine hit to refer specifically something designed to give a quick hit that can lead to addictive behavior (social media scrolling being the big one, porn, gatcha games)

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"Going foward" to describe a new process or action that will be used in the future. I picked it up working in an office and it's a short easy phrase that describes exactly what it means. It still kills me a little bit inside when I inadvertently used it in casual life.
 
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it's even worse in non english speaking countries, people will use all kinds of english words seemingly at random because they think it makes them appear worldly and sophisticated
it's extra cringe when they mispronounce them


you are a retarded nigger lol
Where are all the people calling out such heinous cultural appropriation?

But it IS real; we give it to Parkinson's patients to ease their tremors, as one example. Not trusting all of science because of some political opinion on COVID is the height of absurdity.
It isn't political, it is fact. Our governments have shown they have no problems with lobbying with pharmaceutical conglomerates, test diseases and viruses on citizens without knowledge and consent, using legal and manipulative verbiage to conceal very terrible side effects. There may even be instances where human changing technology, like treatments/cures for cancer being suppressed. Too much money to be made in keeping society sick. If you're not questioning or approaching everything you encounter without a hint of skepticism, you're the problem. Diminishing the complexity of the Covid, artificial, pandemic to just politics is sheeple behavior. I prefer being a shepherd, being a shepherd requires problem solving and critical thinking which is in very short supply in the West.
 
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Like the nu-words made by leftists? It's shoehorned into these languages on purpose.
No, it's people who aren't native English speakers randomly peppering their speech with English words to sound cooler. College people do this all the damn time. European colleges absorb American concepts and language like a sponge and it results in the local college kids speaking entire sentences in English and using English terms when there is a perfectly usable equivalent in their own language.
 
Yeah it’s annoying, and yeah language use like that is weaponised.
it has its use. If you’re talking about something beautiful and grand, like realising you’ve achieved something incredible, then euphoria may be the best term. To me, labelling the stuff like dobbing your neighbours in over a covid lockdown breach a dopamine hit is kind of criticising them. It’s implying it’s a cheap response for no reason.

I accidentally used ‘do the needful’ at work last week. Ooops. Kind of fitted the situation though. Maybe I should start using grand Hatshepsut style proclamations like ‘carry out my wish.’
 
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