I hate pro-bughive channels

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Also, hate to double-post (and it's really bad since I only learned about them ~2 hours before posting it), but I'd love to hear the bughive's opinion on "soul trains":

TL;DW If an ambulance reaches railroad tracks and a train is crossing them, chances are the patient will die completely outside of their control. Bonus pain points for one of those really longass trains that travel really slowly at night in the US.
You will get complete silence. The bugman does not pay much thought to 911 calls and emergency response. He actively champions measures of "traffic calming" that indiscriminately slow down all vehicles, including emergency vehicles, and does not consider how many people will die as a result of a few extra seconds of a vehicle taking longer to treat someone's heart attack. Maybe he thinks that if one is having a heart attack and falls unconscious, they should just not be lazy and get some exercise in the "Gym of Life" by walking to the hospital themselves.

So millions of useless people are chomping at the bit to move into inescapable fire traps? Hmmm.
No, because most cities around the world still have roads and some form of personal transport and haven't (yet) become inescapable fire traps (though some are really trying to, see NYC).
 
Ooh boy, time for me to sperg out about my disdain for these garbage channels!

I've seen a few recommended to be in the past year or so, and although I found some of their arguments mildly agreeable to some extent, I was always thrown off by their sheer smug and utter contempt for anything that isn't a sprawling city. Houses bad, grass bad, nature bad, cars bad, whitey bad, concrete good, bikes good, pod dwelling good, diversity good ...it's all so tiresome. The other day I was scrolling through my Youtube feed on mobile, and this damn channel with <100k subs was recommended to me: I forget what it was called, but the videos had well over 500k views each, and had completely generic and unimaginative titles like "Front lawns are evil and problematic" or "American houses are ugly". I checked the comments sections, and was given a barrage of smug Eurofags saying the same things along the lines of "Swede here: I remember when I visited a friend in America, and I was utterly disgusted at all of the houses! How can you people live like that with front yards that have grass? Back home in Stockholm, everyone is happy, we ride bikes everywhere, and we don't have front lawns!"

Spergout 1: my childhood in the suburbs.

For these damn channels, they have a strange hate-boner for the prospect of living in a detached home with fair amounts of land. Not Just Bikes had some video where he said he would never raise a kid in a suburb and that if he had kids he would only raise them in an apartment in a big city. As someone who personally lived in both cities and suburbs in his youth, HOLY SHIT: city life hard as a kid. You can't play sports in the streets or sidewalks, and the only playgrounds nearby were small and often had thugs and homeless guys loitering. Meanwhile when I lived in a suburb with backyards, the neighbor kids and I thrived. We could play anywhere, we had huge empty spaces of grass to run around and play kickball, we could ride bikes anywhere and not have to worry about getting run over, and the crime was practically non-existent.

These channels lie by omission by arguing that kids in suburbs are all "sheltered" from outside sources and aren't able to socialize with other kids. Bull fucking shit. In the city, it was difficult as fuck to socialize with other kids outside of school, but in the suburbs the world was our oyster, so to speak. Your mileage may vary depending on location, but what these bughive channels fail to point out is that a lot of American cities tend to be very ghetto and have lots of inner city gang violence. This isn't fucking Sesame Street where American cities are these happy cultural hubs of vintage prewar townhouses and kids of all races playing in the street with fucking puppets -- no, this is fucking Camden, Newark, Philly, Bed-Stuy, Bushwick, East St. Louis, Gary, Memphis, Cincinnati, and a thousand others. Our cities are complete shitholes, and this is coming from first-hand experience.

A big powerlevel here, but I lived mostly in a working class suburban housing development of townhouses and condos. As a kid and teen, we had a front yard, a backyard, ample spaces to play, and even "muh diversity" -- because despite living in a predominantly white suburb, most of my friends were working class Latinos who lived in our neighborhood. My brothers and I mostly hung out with the Puerto Rican kids across the street and rode bikes around the neighborhood. We had parks, we had fields, we played sports, we rode bikes, we had diversity -- and no one ever got shot in drug deals gone wrong.

Spergout 2: noise.

I discovered Not Just Bikes because of his video on vehicular noise, which I wholeheartedly agree with -- but then when I watched the rest of his gay videos, I realized he was just another soy Redditfag who hates America and thinks suburbs are literally Hitler. Now, don't get me wrong: I fucking hate loud cars, and seriously think anyone who drives a loud car/motorcycle is a tremendous faggot who has a low IQ and lacks self-awareness. But the thing about my hatred for loud cars -- as opposed to bughive channels who mutually have a problem with them -- is that I'm willing to address the major elephant in the room. And that elephant is? Non-whites. It's one of those things that's impossible to argue about with discussing race, because quite frankly a leading cause of vehicular noise is done by ghetto thugs with crotch-rockets, fart cannon exhausts, and loud ass stereos. Sure, white people are obsessed with loud cars/trucks/cycles too -- and it irritates the fuck out of me -- but like 90% of the time I hear some fucking loud car driving by my house, it's some spic or beaner in a shitty Honda with a huge tail pipe.

Bughives channels want to eat their cake and have it too. They want us all to live in cities, they want us all to have "muh diversity", they want to eliminate car noise, and they want to eliminate personal usage of cars -- but these channels fail to realize that you can't have them all simultaneously. You want your brown people in your city to make it more diverse? Great, but be prepared to be kept awake all night from a bunch of Mexicans drag racing in your streets or some homies parked outside your apartment blasting rap with the bass cranked up to 11. You want to regulate noise and make it illegal to drive a loud car? Great! The problem with that however is that the laws would disproportionately affect minorities. In other words, if the cops grew a pair of balls and started ticketing and arresting dipshit thugs for speeding, driving loud cars and disrupting your neighborhoods, then these bugmen would then support tough policing despite their simping for BLM and defunding the police. You want to outlaw cars completely? Beautiful! Let's see how all of the thugs will react to that, considering loud cars and motorcycles are a staple of their trash culture; they'd move the fuck out of your cities and go live anywhere else where they're free to imitate Fast & Furious.

TL;DR - soy bugmen want to be surrounded by brown people, but they don't want to deal with their trash loud car culture. They want to defund/abolish the police, but they want strict policing against people who drive cars in cities. They want to live in huge densely-populated cities (because small towns are scary and racist), but they complain about the things that make them unbearable such as noise pollution. And best of all, it's impossible for them to address the drawbacks of the city without discussing race, and how nonwhites are responsible for most of the problems with cities (e.g. crime and noise pollution). They hate loud car culture and also hate the police, but it's physically impossible to make your streets quiet and safe without arresting Juan and Pablo for racing dirtbikes in your block at 3 AM.
 
No cars? Great, I'll spend three days walking to the nearest store. Sounds feasible.

When I saw the title of this post I thought it was referring to actual insect hives like ant colonies or beekeepers and was genuinely confused.
 
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Cities were ruined because of car culture (one of the main things, anyway) they were people traffic first. We're past the point where we can have a decent amount of country side if you think it is possible for everyone to be there.

In my city I can get just about everywhere by bus. I can also walk long distances if I need to. I can't drive and we've got a carjacker epidemic right now. I look like a prime victim. Weak, female, overtly feminine. I don't mind the bus. You learn to live with being out in the cold for awhile if you missed the last one. I'm used to a hard time of things and I think it gives you a stronger constitution.

If something catastrophic happens I'll probably survive because I'm used to suffering.
 
EDIT: Wow. That video was bad, even for Adam Something. He literally commanded the audience to "Vote Green" at the end of the video (I want to say tone-death but I honestly don't know with these Europeans anymore).
Europoors have a tendencies to go on about the two party state of America, but then vote for the most retarded parties in existence like any Green party, I rather have Joe Biden for another 10 years than have 4 years of a Green Party president and I'll take that to my grave
 
Europoors have a tendencies to go on about the two party state of America, but then vote for the most retarded parties in existence like any Green party, I rather have Joe Biden for another 10 years than have 4 years of a Green Party president and I'll take that to my grave
Also, at least the US is fairly honest about it.

In the UK, people like to pretend we have a multi-party system, even though we haven't had a single prime minister who wasn't from the Conservative or Labour parties since October 1922, very nearly a whole century ago. The whole thing is set up in such a way that new parties cannot rise to the forefront for a good couple of election cycles, so anyone who voted for more radical opposition like the BNP or Brexit Party essentially had them nullified since they had no seats.

What's perhaps the worst system by far though is Germany's, where half of the government basically votes for itself.
 
I love how most of these channels specifically complain about how noisy cars are, then unironically demand more trains, like living near a train track isn't hell on Earth. "Thanks Bugman, I love having three inches of soundproofing on all my walls, and windows I can never open even in summer."
Their M.O is to complain about cars and evangalize about trains. They always ignore the benefits of cars and the problems of trains.
 
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I love how most of these channels specifically complain about how noisy cars are, then unironically demand more trains, like living near a train track isn't hell on Earth. "Thanks Bugman, I love having three inches of soundproofing on all my walls, and windows I can never open even in summer."
They never really think about the real life implications of a "car free" city. That's the funny thing about naive idealism. Cities being too car dependent is a fair point, but banning cars would cause more problems than it "solves"
 
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There's a significant overlap between these people and YIMBYs who are incredibly self righteous about letting criminals and the homeless run rampant in the bughives because this will somehow magically result in utopia. I can't really think of many ways their retarded ideals would eventually change my personal quality of life for the better but I can see how they're negatively impacting it now.
 
Their M.O is to complain about cars and evangalize about trains. They always ignore the benefits of cars and the problems of trains.
They seem to hate a lot of things. Suburbs, cars, roads, signage, etc.

I really don't get the hatred of streets most of them exude. Roads are multi-purpose; you can walk on them, ride a bike, ride a horse, drive a car, or drive a semi-trailer full of goods. All sorts of uses. Rails are good for two things, freight trains and commuter trains. That's it. They use up just as much space and are less useful than a good highway.

I've driven through cities, and the railyards are sometimes a quarter mile across, nothing but rails. That's a huge area of prime real estate, made useless. And nobody can live near it, because of the constant noise of the trains.
 
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Drinking game, inferno difficulty:
Take a shot each time Adam REEEEEEs about cars, individual transport or road infrastructure.
I had to stop when he was at the parking lot and complained he felt like he was being baked alive. In a small parking lot. In what looked like 80 something degree weather.

Do yuropoors really drop dead in temperatures like that?
God I hate it when they use old cities to make their point. If I could get some buildings like that a walkable city might be tolerable but you know that's not what we're getting. We're getting ugly monstrosities crafted of glass and concrete that are designed by whatever retard boss' kid they let fuck around on AutoCAD that day.
I hate it too, especially because most of these Fulkerson use Europe as a model. Yeah it makes sense those cities are walkable in because they've existed for more than 500 years on average. Most of their history you were lucky if you had a horse for transport.

It's why I will never take them seriously when they advocate massive railroad projects or riding bikes everywhere like they do in the Netherlands or something.

The closest the US has to the Netherlands in terms of topography is probably Florida, whos tallest mountain is a 300 foot hill or something.

Florida is fucking huge and has swamps going through the middle of it, it isn't feasible to just ride bikes through that alone. It probably isn't the best example and I am dumbing it down a lot but any yuropoors who praise public transport and walking everywhere need to take in the actual fucking scope of a nation that stretched from one ocean to another.
Europoors have a tendencies to go on about the two party state of America, but then vote for the most retarded parties in existence like any Green party, I rather have Joe Biden for another 10 years than have 4 years of a Green Party president and I'll take that to my grave
Their multiparty systems are hardly more functional anyways. Most are either dominated by two or three parties or really on huge shaky coalitions to try and get anything down. It's why Italy has dysfunctional politics, every few years a coalition breaks down and nothing gets done.
 
They seem to hate a lot of things. Suburbs, cars, roads, signage, etc.

I really don't get the hatred of streets most of them exude. Roads are multi-purpose; you can walk on them, ride a bike, ride a horse, drive a car, or drive a semi-trailer full of goods. All sorts of uses. Rails are good for two things, freight trains and commuter trains. That's it. They use up just as much space and are less useful than a good highway.

I've driven through cities, and the railyards are sometimes a quarter mile across, nothing but rails. That's a huge area of prime real estate, made useless. And nobody can live near it, because of the constant noise of the trains.
Exactly.
Out of interest, I looked at the German rail station another user talked about earlier in the thread, and this is just absolutely ridiculous:
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See that thin, dotted white line near the middle of the image? That's a train, on a single line of track.

This absolute monstrosity bifurcates the entirety of Munich, and at this exact point is comprised of 44 lanes. It is over 200 metres across. It is a bugman's wet dream, and likely a nightmare for anyone who wants to try getting across the city in any other way.
 
Exactly.
Out of interest, I looked at the German rail station another user talked about earlier in the thread, and this is just absolutely ridiculous:
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See that thin, dotted white line near the middle of the image? That's a train, on a single line of track.

This absolute monstrosity bifurcates the entirety of Munich, and at this exact point is comprised of 44 lanes. It is over 200 metres across. It is a bugman's wet dream, and likely a nightmare for anyone who wants to try getting across the city in any other way.
44 lanes? Bugmen shit their pants when car highways get more than 4 lanes and even the biggest freeway in the world, the Katy freeway, is only 26 lanes wide.

Then they have the audacity to complain about how much space cars and highways take up, or if they're a little smarter, point out how trains are denser than cars. Howevr anybody with common sense can tell that a car highway would take up less space and transport more people than that gigantic monstrosity of a train station.
 
Oh, but it gets even better.
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Let's say you live at 83 Fresieniusstrasse, and you want to visit your friend, who lives at 78 Bauseweinallee. A total distance of roughly 100 metres. If there was a road here, even a freeway, there'd probably be a footbridge or a crossing or something to make it so you could at least walk or bike across.

In a city with a non-retarded transport infrastructure, this should be a 5 minute walk with no need for a car. But because this is rail we're talking about, with high fences and electrified rails (so even if you wanted to try, you'll be very crispy before you make it across), we have to take a bit of a detour:
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What was a 100m jaunt is now a 1 km drive in a car. And that is the ONLY southbound crossing in that particular area of Munich, so you better fucking pray it's never out of usage or closed. Because otherwise, this is your next best bet:
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Your trip becomes 3.3 kilometres. More than 30 times your original distance.

Those two paths you think are roads? Foot and cycle paths. That big interstate looking thing? Oh, you don't get to drive on that, you're on an overpass. So your only option is to drive all the way up to the next crossing, and then navigate the area until you end up at your friend's place. Why did I turn at the halfway mark? Oh, that road you see is a cul-de-sac and doesn't lead to your friend's street. Again, this is all fine if you're on your own. But if you're transporting something heavy, or taking your family to that address, this is really bad city design on the whole.
 
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