I Worked On A Right Friendly Social Media Network. It Unsurprisingly Crashed And Burned Immediately.

[Lemmingwise]

There's a class element to this that I'm probably too sleepy to be writing about right now, but I think what you outline in this potentially-maybe-happened story is similar to what you'll find just about anywhere there is a power structure in place - with a catch: the morons born into wealth almost instinctively shoot for bureaucratic power and influence given its usefulness to self-promotion, whereas the useful idiots who are poor seek instead just to be 'validated,' and pursue positions of power as a means of making themselves 'valid.'

Both of these forms of activity are, in essence, a replacement for working hard or creating or accomplishing something. And I want to call attention to this because there's this talk of bolsheviks and other bourgeois revolutionaries about: there is a difference. The Bolsheviks had real conviction, even if their ideas were retarded, and while there's no doubt whatsoever that they were in it for self-promotion, there was also a grand scheme in mind of theirs of revolutionizing the world, of their ideas being preeminent and rising above and so-on and so-forth. The books and philosophy that the lefty folks seem to be drawn to comes from... well, people who wrote, who -did- something in that regard, who created something (even if, as is the case of Marx, they did very very little otherwise).

This new version is odd. It doesn't -do- anything. It manages shit, and it promotes its own image. It doesn't really believe in anything, beyond a simplistic and single-minded selfishness expressing itself in different forms stratified by class. Since it doesn't need to cram its brain with anything useful, as it has no desire to create, it can just sit there, endlessly, trying to curate or control or micromanage or so-on. It isn't a new phenomenon - as far as my brain knows, Orwell ID'd it in Road to Wigan Pier when discussing why he hated the at-the-time champagne socialists - but it is definitely made all the more obvious because of how social media primarily rewards people who... social media for a living.

Bobby Fishers words are timeless in this regard.

"Real communism, the soviet communism, is basicly a mask for bolshevism, which is a mask for judaism."

I've yet to run into a context where this is not an apt description.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Bobby Fishers words are timeless in this regard.

"Real communism, the soviet communism, is basicly a mask for bolshevism, which is a mask for judaism."

I've yet to run into a context where this is not an apt description.

The way I see it, I view communism as a religion that convinces itself that it's an atheistic political and economic system.

But really, it's more of a dogmatic moralistic authoritarian religion and that the different strains of it are like different sects and denominations of a religion.

Communism would be the core religion while Marxism, Maoism, Juche, Anarcho-Communism, "Democratic" Socialism, Third World militancy, Intersectional Leftism/Critical Race Theory, Anarcho-Feminism, National Bolshevism, and so on are sects of it.

Communism is a false religion, of course.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

OP reads like Penthouse Letters for shitlibs.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

I've yet to run into a context where this is not an apt description.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Communist_Party

Fischer sounds like a lolcow. Saying "the US deserved 9/11" on 9/12, in an interview, is pretty funny.

But really, it's more of a dogmatic moralistic authoritarian religion and that the different strains of it are like different sects and denominations of a religion.

One way to conceptualize this is to see that religion is something often rooted in tradition and nationalism, whereas marxism is more rooted in internationalism and breaking with tradition. Fascism becomes a form of government to enshrine tradition and nationalism; communism becomes the government to enshrine internationalism and "anti-tradition."

In the end it's mostly a question of what the practical size of a governable state is, as beyond a certain point you need slavish adherence to one of these two ideologies to have an "identity," otherwise you get infighting. The enlightenment experiment is that this infighting can be productive and channeled.

 

[Plank]

Congratulations you found out why gamergate failed

Sorry to break it to you, but GamerGate was a stunning success.

And it is a perfect example of why I finally decided to post about my experience with the social network I worked on.

I was completely unaware of the origins of GamerGate, but did start following the developments shortly after in /r/kotakuinaction. From the very start it was an apolitical group of gamers who had a laser sharp focus in getting the games media to stop letting their staff promote games made by their friends or other types of close relations.

Policy documents were taken from all the major gaming sites. Any site that lacked a clear disclosure policy for their staff and writers were put on a list for action. Lists of advertisers for each site were created. And finally letter writing campaigns were set in motion for each site.

The GamerGate campaign was incredibly effective. One by one, every single major gaming site began updating their policies for their staff with regards to promoting their friends and acquaintances games.

GamerGame won exactly what they set out to do.

It wasn't until the sub was later overrun with /r/The_Donald type users who eventually were able to hijack the sub and turn it into the impotent and irrelevant joke is today.

The sub is nothing more than a bunch of people on the Right accomplishing nothing other than sitting around crying and waiting for the hammer to drop and the sub is finally banned.

Seeing the joke that /r/kotakuinaction is today is exactly the same feeling watching the Right on the social network I worked on. A lot of impotent and unorganized rage from the Right while the Left relentlessly executes their takeover.

 

[X Prime]

The problem here is that the right-wing is, by and large, individualist. Until some kind of collectivist right-wing ideology shows up, then they can do nothing.

Issue is, the minute anything resembling a collectivist right-wing ideology shows up, it is crushed.

 

[Lemmingwise]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Communist_Party Fischer sounds like a lolcow. Saying "the US deserved 9/11" on 9/12, in an interview, is pretty funny

When specifically soviet communism is mentioned and the japanese communist party explicitly de-sovieted, that should be kept in mind.

But I don't want to throw the example out that easily.

Normally what I'd do is look at their track record of what they did once in power. But they have none, were never in power, so we have no way to judge what they actually believe in or to what drumbeat they march.

It's like talking to local socialists and communists that idealize the paris commune, when that lasted only a couple of days. Anything positive or negativr can be ascribed to them because there is no track record.

--

I looked up that interview:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8NnXyoFKyUyE/

I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but essentially his reasoning seemd to be:

1. The US is an illegitimate state who stole their land from native americans
2. The US should not be surprised at reprisals when they have troops and wars all over the world
3. The US should stop supporting Israel and their wars

Nothing too unusual.

 

[Xarpho]

Any organization that is not explicitly and intentionally right wing...

... sooner or later becomes left wing.

Well, it all depends on censorship, really. Most forums that are left wing hives now started with some simple rules like "No racism or sexism" back in 2002, which was probably just "don't say 'nigger' out loud" or "don't say anything that would cause your mother to blush", and the open-ended rules end up turning to extreme left wing rhetoric, like ResetEra.

Kiwi Farms had no major censorship rules, and as a result grew more right-wing. That may be changing as a combination of a deluge of left-wing shills (still with no avatar) from the last year or two, Null's personal distaste of A&H, and his growing apathy.

The site will be killed/taken down before, say, Rat Kings is demanded to be closed for being "transphobic", but at the current rate we ARE heading in that direction.

 

[Smolrolls]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

All these Leftist organizations(or formerly apolitical now hijacked by activists) all operated under a unifying identity politics/social justice narrative.

the only people on the right that pull that off on a large scale basis are religious fundamentalists and is because they are members of literal cults so they behave like hives with cult mentality. Religious people usually have a leadership that can wrangle a large amounts of them to proselytize in exactly the same way as needed and can be squeezed of money consistently and gather up to rally where and when they are needed, many denominations will even make proselytizing a core tenet of their ideology so those are gonna be the most numerous, organized and dedicated shillbots the right will ever have but they only represent their segment of "the right"

Other than that "the right" are a million splitered groups full of people who don't agree with each other that much and possible even hate each other and the few personalities and leaders here and there are grifters and self help gurus looking for a buck or some attention without actual political goals and roadmaps, obviously any site advertising to "the right" will just attract loonies banned from anywhere and shitposters and edglords without a cause who just shitpost edgy shit for its own sake.


I personally don't like the religious right, nor this kind of religious activist left, i liked the internet when it wasn't just politisperging bots fighting each other with a consistent and homogeneous posting agenda. I'd wish that kind stuff could stay in its own containment and not infest every site. I am personally not interest to be an online activist, i second the opinion that people who do that are too far gone and have no life, thankfully all the armies of leftie shillbots on twitter are just a loud minority of tards who spend too much time on social media and appear more influential than they are.

 

[Smolrolls]

I will add one more thing I skipped to keep from making my post too long.

Despite the fact that we were invite only and were not public, we were inundated with Leftist organizations.

I was not part of these meetings but am familiar with what went on in them. They were essentially mafia style warnings. That is, you better be not just be moderating the standard set of -isms, but your platform needs to be ACTIVELY ANTI -isms. And your platform had better be paying shakedown style consulting fees or the like to these organizations. I can only assume the financial side of the company was getting similar type of visits with not-so indirect threats about banking and other types of financial institutions if the platform didn't toe the Left's ideological line.

Not a single Right leaning organization was in contact with us.

I assume this typical for most online platforms.

All these Leftist organizations(or formerly apolitical now hijacked by activists) all operated under a unifying identity politics/social justice narrative. They all wanted the same thing: ban every one they disagree with, but was masked by whatever social justice ideological front they operated under.

I don't think the Right has anything that can fight against these organizations. 'Free Speech' and 'Marketplace of Ideas' sound like hokey and quaintly outdated 1940s style TV commercials compared to the more modern Leftist messaging.

Can you tell us which leftist organization contacted you? We're you graced by the almighty ADL? And think you want to ask Null/ Consult with him?

 

[Bob Barker]

Well, it all depends on censorship, really. Most forums that are left wing hives now started with some simple rules like "No racism or sexism" back in 2002, which was probably just "don't say 'nigger' out loud" or "don't say anything that would cause your mother to blush", and the open-ended rules end up turning to extreme left wing rhetoric, like ResetEra.

Kiwi Farms had no major censorship rules, and as a result grew more right-wing. That may be changing as a combination of a deluge of left-wing shills (still with no avatar) from the last year or two, Null's personal distaste of A&H, and his growing apathy.

The site will be killed/taken down before, say, Rat Kings is demanded to be closed for being "transphobic", but at the current rate we ARE heading in that direction.

Null runs this site based on his libertarian principles though, so I would qualify that as explicitly right wing. Plus null himself is pretty hardcore right and doesn't really believe in listening to anyone else's opinion.

 

[Plank]

Can you tell us which leftist organization contacted you? We're you graced by the almighty ADL? And think you want to ask Null/ Consult with him?

I wasn't part of any meetings in person or email. The reason I became aware of it was the founders were shocked enough by it that it became a topic of conversation with everyone working on the project.

The founders were very much of the mindset of why are we, the good guys, getting these warnings and not very veiled threats?

I am sure that working with Null is something the founders would not only have no interest in, they would be extremely upset if anyone even suggested it to them. They with all seriousness wanted to be a social network that was 100 percent legitimate. Absolutely nothing where the servers needed to hidden or protected from attack. Or secret crypto need to be used to avoid banking and finance attacks.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

the only people on the right that pull that off on a large scale basis are religious fundamentalists and is because they are members of literal cults so they behave like hives with cult mentality. Religious people usually have a leadership that can wrangle a large amounts of them to proselytize in exactly the same way as needed and can be squeezed of money consistently and gather up to rally where and when they are needed, many denominations will even make proselytizing a core tenet of their ideology so those are gonna be the most numerous, organized and dedicated shillbots the right will ever have but they only represent their segment of "the right"

I think you've hit upon something, but there's a symmetry that I think you've missed: the "literal cults" of the right solve the coordination problem by using the same method as the cult of woke on the left: ideological coordination. Trouble is, #woke is now effectively our state religion and has absolutely zero signal jamming when it comes to propagating it's encyclicals to the masses, while the right is riven with ideological fractures and strangled at every turn by state and "private" actors. Hell of a situation.

Of course, single powerful leaders can cut the knot here with "what I say goes."

 

[cybertoaster]

Sorry to break it to you, but GamerGate was a stunning success.

And it is a perfect example of why I finally decided to post about my experience with the social network I worked on.

I was completely unaware of the origins of GamerGate, but did start following the developments shortly after in /r/kotakuinaction. From the very start it was an apolitical group of gamers who had a laser sharp focus in getting the games media to stop letting their staff promote games made by their friends or other types of close relations.

Policy documents were taken from all the major gaming sites. Any site that lacked a clear disclosure policy for their staff and writers were put on a list for action. Lists of advertisers for each site were created. And finally letter writing campaigns were set in motion for each site.

The GamerGate campaign was incredibly effective. One by one, every single major gaming site began updating their policies for their staff with regards to promoting their friends and acquaintances games.

GamerGame won exactly what they set out to do.

It wasn't until the sub was later overrun with /r/The_Donald type users who eventually were able to hijack the sub and turn it into the impotent and irrelevant joke is today.

The sub is nothing more than a bunch of people on the Right accomplishing nothing other than sitting around crying and waiting for the hammer to drop and the sub is finally banned.

Seeing the joke that /r/kotakuinaction is today is exactly the same feeling watching the Right on the social network I worked on. A lot of impotent and unorganized rage from the Right while the Left relentlessly executes their takeover.

Enough with the cope, GG was a disaster, they got derailed by shills telling them to not go to fox news and others because they would be branded as neocons

At the end even fox was talking shit about GG and buying the sjw propaganda, and GG got branded as fucking nazis and worst than isis

Fucking kotaku is still around and gawker is dead only because of peter thiel's desire for gay revenge. No sjw got their career ended by GG but a few by their own stupidity. Some like fullmac are doing grifting more money than ever before. The entire industry is sjw now, every dev that was even ambivalent towards GG got fucked over.

And theres no "get woke, go broke", sales and revenue just keeps increasing for this industry

the only people on the right that pull that off on a large scale basis are religious fundamentalists and is because they are members of literal cults so they behave like hives with cult mentality. Religious people usually have a leadership that can wrangle a large amounts of them to proselytize in exactly the same way as needed and can be squeezed of money consistently and gather up to rally where and when they are needed, many denominations will even make proselytizing a core tenet of their ideology so those are gonna be the most numerous, organized and dedicated shillbots the right will ever have but they only represent their segment of "the right"

Other than that "the right" are a million splitered groups full of people who don't agree with each other that much and possible even hate each other and the few personalities and leaders here and there are grifters and self help gurus looking for a buck or some attention without actual political goals and roadmaps, obviously any site advertising to "the right" will just attract loonies banned from anywhere and shitposters and edglords without a cause who just shitpost edgy shit for its own sake.


I personally don't like the religious right, nor this kind of religious activist left, i liked the internet when it wasn't just politisperging bots fighting each other with a consistent and homogeneous posting agenda. I'd wish that kind stuff could stay in its own containment and not infest every site. I am personally not interest to be an online activist, i second the opinion that people who do that are too far gone and have no life, thankfully all the armies of leftie shillbots on twitter are just a loud minority of tards who spend too much time on social media and appear more influential than they are.

Fundies are dead, their leaders are grifters which dont give a shit about their own communities as long as they keep milking them dry. Megachurches are glorified malls, you have starbucks and mcdonalds inside. Preachers are complete fucks up with tattoos preaching borderline sjw bullshit and zionism.

Old christians would have burned them alive

Yeah, but the forensic technologies and techniques in the 70's and 80's weren't anywhere near as advanced as they are now.

There's no use fighting back in Minecraft or in any other game of any kind, especially if it involves anything felonious.

The game was rigged from the start. Don't be a moron.

Not gonna be a moron because I'm not rightwing, got nothing to win from killing sjws in minecraft, unless I did it for the lulz but I rather not go to pound-me-in-the-ass prison in minecraft

And forensics are overrated, even today like 90% of murders are unsolved, and if some wingnut gets caught for killing a sjw journo from wapo in minecraft, so what? they cant unmurder them, and the thing with small-scale lone wolf assassinations in minecraft is that you cant prevent them, all it takes is some wingnut being deranged enough and having a soft target nearby. Sure you can put the SS in overdrive and get every senator and such armed bodyguards, but you cant do that for lower level bureaucrats, or journos, or NGO workers, etc

If the attack is successful odds are there will be plenty of imitators even if the guy gets caught. Lots of wingnuts already feel like they have nothing to lose. And these attacks would be easy to pull off because they wouldnt need a group or access to bomb materials, they can just smash the target's brains out with a crowbar, in minecraft

Guess wingnuts dont have the balls even for that, and they wonder why they're losing...

Normally what I'd do is look at their track record of what they did once in power. But they have none, were never in power, so we have no way to judge what they actually believe in or to what drumbeat they march.

Yeah because that crazy wannabe samurai stabbed their candidate on live TV

Say what you want about japs but their wingnuts do mean business

 

[SuiSui1]

At this point, anyone trying to build a "right" social network is 20 years too late. And at least 80 years too late to change the culture.

 

[Plank]

Enough with the cope, GG was a disaster, they got derailed by shills telling them to not go to fox news and others because they would be branded as neocons

Nope.

The archives of the early days /r/kotakuinaction are right there for any one to see. The archives of the major gaming sites quietly updating their editorial policies are right there for any one to see. The meticulous letter writing campaigns to gaming websites is right there archived for any one to go back are see for themselves.

Sorry, but, GamerGate was a complete and total success. No matter how many ignorant kneejerk reactions try to claim otherwise.

It is somewhat understandable because GamerGate really didn't become mainstream until some time after the original core group had won the battle they set out accomplish and the main sub and the hashtag had degenerated into pointless sperging.

The Right thought they could turn GamerGate into mass public fight against the lunatic Left and instead it was the all so well known pointless posting of memes, crying about the media, and futile twitter drama.

 

[Xarpho]

Null runs this site based on his libertarian principles though, so I would qualify that as explicitly right wing. Plus null himself is pretty hardcore right and doesn't really believe in listening to anyone else's opinion.

He temporarily shut down registrations after the 1/6 events on the basis of "no political refugees". Shutting down the borders was probably the best as it could invite in more shills, feds, and bad actors (all of which would be detrimental to the forums) but the way it was phrased it sounded like he didn't want any more right-leaning members.

 

[ditto]

He probably doesn't want to get doxxed. Given how anyone can lurk or browse most sections of these forums, that is understandable.

OP needs to at least verify the story with a mod.

 

[Bob Barker]

He temporarily shut down registrations after the 1/6 events on the basis of "no political refugees". Shutting down the borders was probably the best as it could invite in more shills, feds, and bad actors (all of which would be detrimental to the forums) but the way it was phrased it sounded like he didn't want any more right-leaning members.

He doesn't want any more retards who care more about politics than the success of the forums. Considering that a not-insignificant portion of the A&N people were mocking the potential of the forums getting shut down due to 230 being repealed, solely because trump wanted to do it, I don't blame josh for not wanting any more of those parasites to join.

I feel the same way about them and I am probably more right wing then the majority of them.