Containment Idea Guy / Joshua Wise (Manipulating the intellecutally disabled for fun) Megathread

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So Magi-Chan went from anti-gay psychic enforcer to gay himself?

You know what they say about hardcore deniers.
I am seriously wondering how this idea guy manages to get Chris to do all of that. I mean, there isn'T even the least bit of subtlety involved in these plans
 
He possibly freaks his shit at first, but then disregards it all, and continues to retreat into this newly-tainted hugbox after CTRL+Zing everything
I think this is the most likely scenario. If idea guy were to get bored (like every other troll) I think it would be a waste to end this like ":epik:lel I trolled U! :julay:"
Chris might sigh at first but I think he would just retcon everything and it wouldn't have any impact making this the shittiest "saga" in Christory.

I think in order for there to be any actual negative results from this - the idea guy would have to somehow ruin Chris's relationship to his own drawings. Could you imagine if idea guy posing as sonichu breaks up all ties with Chris, saying they're pissed off at him for whatever reason? Or even say that the sonichus and angry and are coming to get him. Could Chris be pushed to the point of fear and paranoia of his own creations?
 
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I think this is the most likely scenario. If idea guy were to get bored (like every other troll) I think it would be a waste to end this like ":epik:lel I trolled U! :julay:"
Chris might sigh at first but I think he would just retcon everything and it wouldn't have any impact making this the shittiest "saga" in Christory.

I think in order for there to be any actual negative results from this - the idea guy would have to somehow ruin Chris's relationship to his own drawings. Could you imagine if idea guy posing as sonichu breaks up all ties with Chris, saying they're pissed off at him for whatever reason? Or even say that the sonichus and angry and are coming to get him. Could Chris be pushed to the point of fear and paranoia of his own creations?
I think it depends on how things are revealed to Chris himself, and this is a detail that we may not get to see. We never got to see the full Jessica logs.
 
This could really fuck with Chris' psyche. If the end game of this trolling is for the Idea Guy to come out and say "Haha! You weren't really talking to Sonichu/Comic CWC/Magi-Chan/whoever! You got trolled again, and I made you write that Rosechu has a dick and Magi-Chan is a faggot! It's canon now, so it's true!" it would basically be like taking away the comfort blanket of a small child who is terrified of the dark, shredding it in front of their eyes, burning the shreds, then locking them in a pitch black room that you said a terrible monster lives in. It's basically fucking with the comfort zone Chris escapes to when he's struggling to cope with reality, and Chris has a tenuous grasp on reality as it is. There is screwing with someone for a giggle, then there is being needlessly cruel. This is firmly in needlessly cruel terriory, and it isn't even funny or original. Telling Chris one of his characters is gay would have gotten a rise out of him eight years ago, but now he's basically like "Hmmm...m'nyeah, whatever."
What if the Idea Guy never reveals the truth? What if he just says "Chris, Count Graduon destroyed Cwcville. Everyone is dead and I'm about to hang myself. Goodbye" and fucking leaves?
 
It's hard to say, but if that's the plan, it could be difficult to drag Chris out of his soporific Valium high long enough for him to care that someone is subverting Sonichu. For the sake of our entertainment and Chris's health, I hope I'm wrong.

Speaking of Valium, does anyone or @Marvin know if Chris self medicating has crossed the fine line into benzo addition?? If dummy is popping some everytime he gets stressed (which is borderline ever 30 minutes to a hour, borderline everyday) then I think Chris should consider talking to his doctor, or at least seek help for dependency issues (which we know he won't because Chris honestly believes he's the smartest person in the world, and he knows everything) because benzo withdrawals are no joke. They're worse than opiate/heroin withdrawals and alcohol withdrawals. People have died from benzo withdrawals. If they're not being prescribed, and someone else is providing them (because let's face it, Chris would never be brave enough to buy them himself off the streets) or if he's stealing from Barb, then maybe he should be informed of what could happen, even though I doubt he would ever listen because it doesn't benefit him in anyway.

There are rednecks in every state (and every country by different names), and incest isn't legal in any of them, you culturally ignorant fuck.

U mad bro??
 
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What if the Idea Guy never reveals the truth? What if he just says "Chris, Count Graduon destroyed Cwcville. Everyone is dead and I'm about to hang myself. Goodbye" and fucking leaves?
Then he’ll be taking the Sweetheart’s way out, which would be unoriginal, but some of the damage done would stick until the next troll comes, or white knight manages to get into Chris’s dense, autistic skull.
There are rednecks in every state (and every country by different names), and incest isn't legal in any of them, you culturally ignorant fuck.
Spot the redneck.
 
Yeah so did Chris,
and I guess Sonichu is gay too since Rosechu has a dick and all...
It seems that the anti-gay vaccine from Sonichu #10 actually had the reverse effects
That's what happens when you use tranny blood.
 
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Jesus fuck kill it.
 
I would probably pay money to watch/hear/read those convos Chris had with his own characters.. Seems like it will be a very surreal read.
I'm not trying to say that I disagree with the concept that Chris truly believes he is talking to his characters; Marvin has stated many times that is the case and, generally, Marv isn't in the wrong. The idea seems logical and, certainly, it holds together while explaining the very odd actions Chris has taken throughout this saga.

The problem I'm having is in coming to terms with *how* Chris can believe he is speaking with his own characters. I understand that the line between reality and fantasy is very blurred for Chris at the best of times and, with his life in the real world spiralling further out of his control, he desperately wants to believe that CWCville is real and that he can go there and live permanently. I even understand that Chris views his creative processes (his dreams and the ideas he comes up with) as his characters telling him what is going on with their lives, which Chris merely chronicles.

But, still, (well, to me, at least) there is a big difference between Chris fantasizing something, convincing himself Sonichu told him it happened, and drawing it into his comic than there is with some random person contacting him, telling Chris that he is Sonichu and filling his skull with all of the nonsense that we've seen ( to say nothing of the stuff that goes against the canon Chris has already established). I just find it hard to comprehend that Chris would blithely accept all of that as fact and dutifully publish it. After all, at some point deep down, doesn't Chris realize that Sonichu really isn't real, or is he truly that stupid and/or delusional?

The risky part of it, especially if/when the info dump happens, is how Chris will react to it all.
The info dump will happen. It has to. If it doesn't, there is no point at all to Idea Guy's trolling. While a good part of the Quinn saga happened privately, the breakup and the resulting fallout were public. Otherwise, how could Quinn (or Idea Guy, for that matter) try to cement his/her status as a master troll?

As you kindly mentioned, this is a significant intrusion into his hugbox, it's basically 1000 x Simonla, and depending on how he reacts, things couldpotentially get better for him, because the way I see it, he only has 2 alternatives once this story is over:
  1. He recognizes that his need to believe in CWCville is the loophole that enabled this troll plot to succeed, forcing him to close it by ceasing his belief that cartoon characters are real, because if he doesn't, then weens will make his life an even bigger living hell, because you know they will try to find that in and tell Chris that Sonichu went Benoit on his family or something unfunny like that (:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:).
  2. He possibly freaks his shit at first, but then disregards it all, and continues to retreat into this newly-tainted hugbox after CTRL+Zing everything, however, this may possibly present a paradox to his mind, because his continued belief in real CWCville means that trolls still have a shot of messing with him, so he will need time to parse out this contradiction and find a new exceptional workaround that allows him to bypass it, this may or may not need a long exile.
  3. I know I said 2 solutions, but Chris is easily exceptional enough to find another idiotic alternative, so I'm keeping this one open.
I don't mean to sound cold but life goes on for Chris. It always does. One of the most admirable things about Chris is that he somehow manages to bounce back from everything. Yes, the Simonla incident kept Chris from writing Sonichu for a while but I'm pretty sure that, in his mind, things continued on their merry way in CWCville. Then, when Chris realized he could get Patreonbux from publishing Sonichu, he started publishing it again.

More than likely, #2 will happen. Chris has already been forced to face the Simonla paradox once, he dealt with it, and emerged none the worse for wear. Once the Idea Guy comes clean, I have no doubt that Chris will retcon everything he doesn't like, add in more ponies, and life in CWCville will continue unabated. After all, one of the benefits of being a god/dictator of your own little world means that things don't need to be logically consistent.
 
After all, at some point deep down, doesn't Chris realize that Sonichu really isn't real, or is he truly that stupid and/or delusional?

I hate to say it, but I believe that Chris' mind is such a massive, interconnected clusterfuck of a contradiction, that he has likely already pondered the possibility (of the Sonichu universe not existing) so much that he has already come up with an excuse for why CWCville must be real, and why he is having his doubts.
 
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