🐱 Incel terrorist attacks pose an increasing threat

https://phys.org/news/2020-05-incel-terrorist-pose-threat.html

Researchers at The University of Western Australia have found that self-identified "incels' (involuntary celibates, young men who cannot find female sexual partners), present a national security issue.


In a landmark paper published today in the Australian Journal of Political Science, Incels are determined to have killed at least 50 people and injured at least 58 more since 2014—statistics comparable to the number of victims of Islamic extremism in the same period. However, Incels are receiving little preventative attention.

Considering the recent rise of high-profile misogynistic violence in Australia, the authors call for the Australian government to label Incels as a security threat and, in doing so, adopt preventative programs to address misogyny in the community.

Project co-author Dr. Sian Tomkinson, from UWA's School of Social Sciences, said Incels were part of a network called the Manosphere.

"The Manosphere contains various groups who believe that feminism has overtaken society and that men must fight back in order to survive," Dr. Tomkinson said.

"In extreme cases, Incels become radicalized online and commit attacks against everyday men and women, who they blame for their misfortunes."

Co-author Dr. Tauel Harper, from UWA's School of Social Sciences, said one of the great dangers of trying to combat ideological extremists such as Incel was the creation of a 'suspect community," which could encourage even more extreme behavior.

"In order to avoid this scenario with 'the manosphere' we present a program to tackle misogynistic views at the community level," Dr. Harper said.

"Key to this effort is to ensure that public figures and anyone who comments on violence against women understands that gendered violence presents a threat to public security.

"Comments that make gendered violence seem justifiable or the fault of the victim have been shown to further encourage violent attitudes and behavior."

Co-author Dr. Katie Attwell, also from UWA's School of Social Sciences, said misogyny had been killing women for centuries.

"What Incel has done is make misogyny dangerous to everyone, not just women. The very broad and public nature of this threat means that the government must now deal with misogynistic attitudes as an issue of national security."

 

[Ineedahero]

"Comments that make gendered violence seem justifiable or the fault of the victim have been shown to further encourage violent attitudes and behavior."

I agree with this author, anyone who tweets #killallmen needs to be investigated by the police. For safety.

 

[Positron]

This is the article: Confronting Incel: exploring possible policy responses to misogynistic violent extremism
by Sian Tomkinson, Tauel Harper and Katie Attwel, all from the School of Social Science, UWA.

I won't inflict a Sociology article on my worst enemy; I read it so you don't have to.
First, the numbers:


There is a lot of talk about what the authors call "securitisation". Their definition:

Securitisation refers to the act, carried out by a speaker in a position of authority, of labelling something a security threat to a referent object. When this statement is accepted by the audience, securitisation has occurred. The securitised object is considered outside the realm of ‘normal politics’, opening up its governance to a realm of otherwise unavailable possibilities, including emergency action and ‘breaking free of rules’.​

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Hence the authors recommend that an unusual problem ("incels") must be handled by "emergency action" and "breaking free of rules". "Breaking free of rules" has worked so well for feminism, as when they abnegated personal responsibility and blamed rapes on "patriarchy" and "rape culture".

For instance, in 2015 Jill Meagher was raped and murdered when she was walking home in Melbourne. A Catholic priest told a hundred primary school children that if she was ‘more “faith filled” she would have been home and “not walking down Sydney Road at 3am”’ ... In 2018, Eurydice Dixon was stalked, raped, and murdered walking home in Melbourne. A police Superintendent advised women to ‘have situational awareness’, carry their phones and call police if they are concerned. In making these proclamations, opinion leaders and people in power categorise these attacks as a private concern (to do with one’s behaviour) as opposed to a public threat...Following the Superintendent’s misguided statement, there was widespread condemnation of patriarchy as the ‘real problem’​

Yup, giving sensible advice for women to better protect themselves is a bad thing. Rape is a political problem and women are helpless. It is not new of course but it still astounds me whenever I read it.

Finally, the "breaking free of rules" the authors think must be done:

1. Stop painting men as victims ("Comments such as Bolt and Leyenhjelm’s, which publicly affirm a feeling of ‘victimhood’ or persecution among men, not only undermine any political action on gendered violence, they actually encourage those who feel ‘persecuted’ towards violence") -- because obviously only women (and "women") can be victims.
2. Promote the voices and positions of women in areas of politics and the public sphere, because "The fact that women are under-represented in politics, security organisations and public commentary certainly contributes to the lack of strong social norms around discussing gendered violence". Affirmative action was mentioned.
3. (The only sensible part) Address the perceived injustice of incels; make them aware that the resentment come from alienation, rather than being male per se.
4. Implement surveillance, using existing technologies that has been used on Islamic extremists ("[Organizations such as the US Homeland Security] could use existing surveillance laws and operational guidelines to effectively police misogynistic violence. They could monitor individuals who are engaging in suspect behaviour and/or who have a high-risk profile based upon peer group membership and social psychological indicators.")

 

[Niggernerd]

So this is how 72 virgins are made for the real terrorist

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

So the take away I got from this is kill all incels before they kill us.

 

[DumbDude42]

First, the numbers:
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so that's where they got their number from, it is indeed worldwide and not just australia
now how about that islamic number they brought up for comparison? cause i'm 100% sure that the number of global deaths due to islamic terrorism since 2014 is several orders of magnitude larger than 53. between ISIS in syria, boko haram in nigeria, al shabaab in somalia, the taliban and al qaeda in afghanistan, and all the small scale attackers like the boston marathon bombers and that gay nightclub shooter, i'm pretty sure we're talking about a number in the tens of thousands at least.

 

[Positron]

so that's where they got their number from, it is indeed worldwide and not just australia
now how about that islamic number they brought up for comparison?

Wright, Christopher J. 2018. “Islamist Terror in America.” In Terrorism in America, edited by Robin Maria Valeri and Kevin Borgeson, 96-117. New York: Routledge.
START 2020a

 

[Meat Poultry Veg]

So "incels" kill fewer than 10 people a year and this is a national emergency?

If the past two months have taught us anything, it's that Leftists have no perspective and hate denominators.

 

[OnMoTi]

This is the article:

Wait a minute. They were citing the US and Canada combined with their "50 dead / 58+ injured over a 6 year period" claim? I figured they were talking about only Australia since, in the article, the paragraph prior mentions the researchers coming from an Australian university and the paragraph after talks about MUH SOGGY KNEES violence specifically in Australia. That makes this even more of a joke article (and factually incorrect regarding incel > mudslime body count.) Orlando (50,) + San Bernadino (16,) + NYC Truck of Peace (8,) > 50. And that's just the bigger events in the US.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Sometimes I wonder if there's a true, concerted, knowing effort at some level to breed strawman opposition instead of a ghost. I don't think there are that many nazi's around today, but the actions we see sure seem intent on making it seem like they're everywhere. If it weren't for the media constantly bringing them up no one would even know about them and they'd fade back into historical nerdery.

To the college liberal and lefty media, though, everyone to the right of Mao is a Nazi.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

(I remember hearing from somewhere that Mateen was gay, he frequented the club

This was bullshit pushed by media and taken up by leftists to run interference for Islam while also trying to get gay persecution brownie points while the bodies were still warm.

Everything i read afterwards put him squarely in islamic terrorism.

 

[Otterly]

So they use global numbers since 2014? Rightyho, some totally sound methodology there. How many have died from trucks of peace since then?

Australia has a problem with domestic violence, that’s the main ‘misogynistic violence’ route. There’s also been a few high profile family destruction cases there recently.

I’ve been wondering why incels are the new bogeyman. The only thing I can think of is as a wedge attack against various places on the Internet. When you see reporting about such cases there’s always a big deal about how much time they spent on Places like 4chan and they’ve even linked here very tenuously as well, just to make sure the farms etc are mentioned in the same article as Bad Man Does Bad Thing. .
I suspect they’re just using such cases as another way to link Very Bad Things with places on the internet you can be anonymous, tbh.

 

[Chad Nasty]

So they use global numbers since 2014? Rightyho, some totally sound methodology there. How many have died from trucks of peace since then?

Australia has a problem with domestic violence, that’s the main ‘misogynistic violence’ route. There’s also been a few high profile family destruction cases there recently.

I’ve been wondering why incels are the new bogeyman. The only thing I can think of is as a wedge attack against various places on the Internet. When you see reporting about such cases there’s always a big deal about how much time they spent on Places like 4chan and they’ve even linked here very tenuously as well, just to make sure the farms etc are mentioned in the same article as Bad Man Does Bad Thing. .
I suspect they’re just using such cases as another way to link Very Bad Things with places on the internet you can be anonymous, tbh.

My thought on it is that "incel" is the new blanket term for anybody who embodies "wrongthink" now. Its always an attack on someone's manhood, or something like that.

 

[DumbDude42]

I’ve been wondering why incels are the new bogeyman. The only thing I can think of is as a wedge attack against various places on the Internet. When you see reporting about such cases there’s always a big deal about how much time they spent on Places like 4chan and they’ve even linked here very tenuously as well, just to make sure the farms etc are mentioned in the same article as Bad Man Does Bad Thing. .
I suspect they’re just using such cases as another way to link Very Bad Things with places on the internet you can be anonymous, tbh.

incels are very vocal about how much they hate women and how they fantasize about rape and murder everyday. your regular domestic abuser or girlfriend-murdering man isn't. that's why they get so much more attention.
also incels are related to the wider "redpill" scene. puas, mras, mgtows, lookism, etc - they're all cringe and have multiple community watch threads here, but they're pretty good at making internet feminists extremely buttmad. i think this feminist butthurt is the main driver behind all these press articles and academic papers about the incel menace.

plus, there's a novelty factor. "husband beats wife" is a tale as old as time, same for "girl murdered by boyfriend". people know this shit since forever.
but an "incel" is a new and novel thing, and the shit they spew on their websites is full of grotesque and shocking content, so that's great fodder for the sensationalist press.

 

[Chad Nasty]

incels are very vocal about how much they hate women and how they fantasize about rape and murder everyday. your regular domestic abuser or girlfriend-murdering man isn't. that's why they get so much more attention.
also incels are related to the wider "redpill" scene. puas, mras, mgtows, lookism, etc - they're all cringe and have multiple community watch threads here, but they're pretty good at making internet feminists extremely buttmad. i think this feminist butthurt is the main driver behind all these press articles and academic papers about the incel menace.

Now that you mention that, it makes a lot of sense. Simply being of the opinion that "having a girlfriend/wife and building it off traditional values" gets you some flack and labeled as being an incel (at my last experience).

Spoiler: sperging about being called an incel

I remember just like a day or two ago some semi-semi-quasi popular youtuber flamed me on twatter for a story I shared on her about some "respectable" wives doing some un-respectable things when I used to use tinder. The thing that really razzed them was when I said something like "American women aren't worth more than a 5/10 bj" or some shit.

I wrote no "redpill" phaggy views (only ones I have are aesthetics and self, self improvement and self love/reflection come first) and I was pretty explicit saying the behavior exhibited by the women didn't bother me since I thought it to be in their nature to have high body counts. They called me an incel this and incel that or some other stuff. They needed a hugbox to tell themselves that evil "incels" like me on the internet are just lying so they pretend to be a chad.

Maybe through my own fault, they acted like I was gleeful about these experiences. Like I have a shadowbox of sloot medals I look at before I slumber. I'm actually sad to recount all these encounters I've had that were superficial like this w/ women who are attached or not. I regret them all in absolute. That's not a value system I want for the future of the boys or girls in our country, to have sex just be a dirty transaction and that non-monogamy can exist within integrity.

As a man, I have to work far harder than a woman to get laid or a relationship. I have to go to the gym 4x-6x/week, cook, clean, be good with money, be squared away. If all that work nets high-mileage women who can't do their laundry and hold whatever morals their friends pressure them to have about 95% of the time, it is a losing investment for me.
I'd say the closest thing I am to anything is trad. It's just hard to keep opening your christmas presents looking for the one thing you wanted all year, and then to keep finding used pairs of jeans.

If you do find the post I talked about (I don't care to look for it), I probably did come off like a real salty bitch and/or a real fuckboi. Its out on the internet now (thx @Arm Pit Cream for the find), so all that I can do is own shit, I, SickNastyBastard, the True & Honest Jacob Sockness, have sperging on the net guise.

 

[Maldron the Assassin]

How about niggas?

Oh wait they don't count even though they kill tens of thousands each year.

How much shit should we give to incels?

Isn't virginity for life enough?


LEAVE THEM ALONE.

No. They want them to die, and in dying, to kill a part of themselves.

 

[Otterly]

incels are very vocal about how much they hate women and how they fantasize about rape and murder everyday. your regular domestic abuser or girlfriend-murdering man isn't. that's why they get so much more attention.

It’s be interesting so see how that vocal ranting online translates into action, and compare it to actual wife beating stats. I get the impression most of them aren’t in a position to harm women because they don’t know any, don't have partners and don’t have kids. Some of them no doubt would follow through but the vast majority are sad, cringeworthy and self limiting.

I’d put money on most of these guys being all mouth and no trousers, whereas I’ve known several women have miserable home lives with men who in public are seen as paragons of virtue. Amazing how the third wave feminists go into a frenzy about men saying stuff, but don’t seem to want to address the doing of the really nasty stuff. There’s barely a peep out of them when some bloke murders his kids and wife, or about DV in general.

It’s almost like getting mad about what faceless internet speds say is easier than tackling the nasty, grotty real stuff, isnt it? I suppose it’s also useful for the IDpol lot, who want to splinter everyone into little opposing factions. For them, stoking this kind of fear of the opposite sex works well. Both ways.

 

[Positron]

Amazing how the third wave feminists go into a frenzy about men saying stuff, but don’t seem to want to address the doing of the really nasty stuff.

Because academic feminists know as much about the real world as the incels they brand to be worse than ISIS.

 

[Wraith]

So "incels" kill fewer than 10 people a year and this is a national emergency?

Maybe it's like the old Yuri Bezmenov video where the people who most believed in your cause become the most energetic and outspoken when they find out things aren't as promised. So when the time comes they are the ones removed first lest they influence others. IDK, I'm avoiding work.

 

[Littleblackchyld]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/incel-bomber-blows-hand-off-cheerleaders

Best part: Reached for comment on Facebook, his brother, Neil Carini said, "My family is trusting in God and Godly people. Please pray for my brother. Thank you."

I think God already has his say on your brother when the explosive blew his hand off.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

"Man, there has been a rash of woman-hating recently."
"Why, what did women do?"
"NOTHING YOU MISOGYNIST! STOP VICTIM BLAMING!"