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India is trying to become the new factory of the world, but it could take more than a global pandemic to unseat China from its 40-year reign​


India's vying for a piece of China's pie in higher end manufacturing.Sajjad Hussain/AFP/Getty Images
  • China's zero-COVID policies are pushing companies to diversify supply chains away from the country.
  • They were already moving out due to geopolitical tensions and tariffs from the Trump era.
  • But it isn't easy to fully replace China's supply chain ecosystem in any country — even one as vast as India.
China's zero-COVID policy may just be doing what Donald Trump didn't manage to fully achieve during his term as president — shifting global supply chains away from China for the first time in 40 years.

In 2018 and 2019, Trump levied stiff tariffs against China to counter what he called unfair trade deals with the US, spurring retaliation from Beijing and kicking off a trade war.

And while many companies started discussing moving supply chains out of China as a way to distance themselves from geopolitical risks, it was really the pandemic — and China's zero-COVID policy — that drove home the importance of not depending on one country for its supply chain.

"The geopolitical tensions in themselves may not have resulted into this level of realignment of supply chains, but COVID certainly provided that extra vision extra fillip, the extra fuel to the fire," Ashutosh Sharma, a research director at market researcher Forrester, told Insider.

Tech giant Apple provides the latest example of being burned by an overreliance on Chinese production lines, with iPhone output hit by China's relentless zero-COVID pursuit. Apple is now speeding up its push to shift its production out of China to other Asian countries. But where to go?

Major Apple supplier Foxconn's top pick is India, and so is that of other chipmakers, after the Biden administration in October imposed export controls on shipping equipment to Chinese-owned factories making advanced logic chips.

"India has a large labor pool, a long history of manufacturing, and government support for boosting industry and exports. Because of this, many are exploring whether Indian manufacturing is a viable alternative to China," Julie Gerdeman, the CEO of supply chain risk management platform Everstream, told Insider.

But the move is easier said than done.

India is the world's largest democracy, and that makes decision-making a lot more complicated​

As a large economy with a young population, India has the potential to be a manufacturing powerhouse. But the South Asian country is also infamous for its bureaucracy and hindering red tape.

"It's far from a place where businesses can simply come in and open a shop without having too many company compliances," said Sharma, who is based in India. "I'm sure China has those issues too, but its ability to move fast on those compliance requirements is much higher than in India, because India is much more democratic and there are just too many stakeholders to satisfy here."

India came in at the 63rd position in a World Bank list of 190 countries ranked based on their ease of doing business in 2019. While this was an improvement from its position in the 142th position in 2014 when Prime Minister Narendra Modi took office — it still lagged behind China, which was in the 31st position in 2019 the last year the index was compiled before the World Bank discontinued it after a data rigging scandal. Data irregularities improved China's position in 2018, according to a World Bank audit published in December 2020.

India also has a history of protectionism, which makes it less competitive in terms of attracting large investments.

"China manufactures at scale, while most factories in India are small and midsize due to federal regulations and protections designed specifically for SMEs," said Gerdeman.

China has built a manufacturing ecosystem over 4 decades​

India's Prime Minister Modi has been working on attracting foreign direct investments, or FDI, since he took office in 2014, sending FDI to a record $83.6 billion in the last fiscal year, according to government data.

"India certainly has advantages in terms of demographics, in terms of geography, in terms of the infrastructure that exist, much of which has been built in the last few years," said Sharma. "It can obviously increase the scale, but what it does not have is all the pieces of the puzzle."

What he means is that China has managed to build up a value chain so extensive that almost everything required to make a product can be sourced and acquired in the country, which allows for low-cost manufacturing on a large scale. In contrast, India doesn't have this capability yet, which takes years to build up.

That's because manufacturers always start factory operations with the assembly line before starting to develop local supply lines for the finished products in a "backward integration" of processes, said Sharma.

"That supply chain takes time for it to build because even when you are sourcing it internally, the quality is not that good initially, your scale is not that high, and you run into those issues. So yes, it can be done, but it takes time," he told Insider.

Once burned, twice shy companies aren't going all in on India this time​

In any case, companies are unlikely to flock en masse to India like they did to China because it's just been proven too risky, the experts said.

And it's not just Foxconn and Apple that have gone all in on China and are now suffering for it: US sportswear giant Nike, Japanese carmaker Toyota, and South Korean tech titan Samsung all number among the many companies experiencing prolonged supply-chain issues because of their reliance on the manufacturing giant.

"They are looking to diversify their sourcing," said Sharma. "If you look at Foxconn and Apple, they have already moved a significant part of production to India and I'm sure to other countries like Vietnam, and a few other places. That's precisely because they want to diversify, from having dependency on one country, like China, to a couple of locations."

This means more complex supply chains, but they will be diversified all from raw material stages, he said.

"If they can build two or three dependable places where they can source from, they will still have alternative sources even if something happens to one location in the future," said Sharma.
 
Are you trying to tell me that the Chinese government promoting its national identity is a bad thing? Are you also telling me that because the Chinese promote its national values, that includes SHTEALING from da HUWITE MAN? I don't get it.

You stated that the Chinese were not a homogeneous people, so I have provided substantiation of my original claim that they are. I am not saying it is a good thing, or a bad thing. I'm stating fact. Whether it is a good or bad thing is not part of my argument, I am merely elaborating upon my point so you understand it better.
 
The Chinese birth rate has been so fucked up that they will inevitably lose a lot of their influence in a couple of decades. Their birth rate has been going down for decades and it’s likely it will never improve. A lot of other countries are having similar problems but when the main reason you are a superpower is because of your high population it is not going to go well when most of your population is elderly people.
 
Are you trying to tell me that the Chinese government promoting its national identity is a bad thing? Are you also telling me that because the Chinese promote its national values, that includes SHTEALING from da HUWITE MAN? I don't get it.

Just say you hate chinks and call it a day, jesus christ. I don't care if you're racist just say you are instead of pretending you're on some superlevel of enlightenment.

Japan didn't send us melamine-poisoned pet food.

I for one don't really care why China is a nation of thieves where they will lie about everything from how many parts failed inspection to the confidentiality of information to where this machinery you sent for repair is actually going. It doesn't matter if it's "based" or their "national identity" or borne of fear of the CCP or caused by mind control lasers. All that matters is that they lie, cheat, and steal incessantly. The Japs and the Koreans have their quirks, but they're generally reliable business partners.

Of course, moving to India would be a mistake, they're not really any better. We should stop chasing the cheapest thing.
 
We should stop chasing the cheapest thing.
That would require a government that cares about it's citizens and not one trying to enrich the ruling class as much as possible.

If I was China I'd send you leaded baby food too. Our own government does worse to us, and we still buy everything from them! They seem to be giving the US exactly what it deserves and asks for.
 
That would require a government that cares about it's citizens and not one trying to enrich the ruling class as much as possible.

If I was China I'd send you leaded baby food too. Our own government does worse to us, and we still buy everything from them! They seem to be giving the US exactly what it deserves and asks for.
But the chinese government acts the same way as far as consolidating wealth and power? I get that you respect the brazenness of the chinese, but you should be aware by now that you can't trust a thing they say.

I'm not going "ALL THE CHIANKS ARE IDGITS" but, having been exposed to a fair degree of immigrant chinese culture, I can tell you it's all about pushing the limits of what you can get away with as far as lying and being cheap. They have no reason to be honest about anything because of how important Face is to them, so the fact you somehow trust what they self report about their achievements is startling.
 
Our own government does worse to us, and we still buy everything from them!

This is something of a false equivalency. The Chinese have, on average, far more sick-days per year than Americans or most other Western nations do. It is simply an expected part of culture there that you will get sick from 'fake' food or 'fake' alcohol. This is considered culturally acceptable; a fact of life. Something to deal with. Unless it is a massive societal-disrupting event like the baby formula scandal, there will never be backlash against contaminated products in China.

Meanwhile in the West, if you get food poisoning from a restaurant, you can sue them and are fairly likely to win. We hold brands to standards, and it is still expected that a corporation will pay consequences for bad products. You can go your entire life buying things from a supermarket and never get sick. This is because of our culture, and our expectations.

It's entirely true that corporations of all kinds get away with horrible, heinous things. But, even after you pare back everything to its most morally craven, western corporations still need to hide the horrible, heinous things they do in the shadows. When Nestle steal water from Africa, there is public outrage and their profits take a hit. When a brand is caught red-handed lying to its customers, they often go bankrupt or have to issue massive product recalls. In essence, western corporations still have to foster trust with their consumers, even if it's 'fake' trust, because that is still an essential element of doing business.

In China, this is another unthinkable concept. It is entirely accepted by the consumer that they are taken advantage of. It is entirely accepted that the person buying something is at the mercy of the seller. As I said previously; unless it is a massive scandal that kills hundreds, if not thousands of people, it will not even be investigated. Consumer advocacy and mandatory health/safety protocols are utterly alien concepts to the Chinese. Unions are unfathomable. Whatever issues the West has (and it has many, many, many...), we still live under an umbrella of human and societal rights that provide us protection from the vast majority of indignities and little, daily miseries that every Chinese citizen simply accepts as an insurmountable reality.

Forget it Null, It's just Chinatown.
 
You stated that the Chinese were not a homogeneous people, so I have provided substantiation of my original claim that they are. I am not saying it is a good thing, or a bad thing. I'm stating fact. Whether it is a good or bad thing is not part of my argument, I am merely elaborating upon my point so you understand it better.
The "Han" are considered "homogeneous" because their government wants them to be, not because they actually are. The average Cantonese man is linguistically, culturally, and even genetically distinct from the average Mandarin-speaking Beijinger, who is still different from some Wu Chinese-speaker in the Jiangnan region, who is still different from some Hokkien person in Fujian, who is still different from some Southwest Mandarin-speaker in Sichuan.

As someone who utterly despises modern China (and its shills), I still understand that the supposed "homogenity" of those considered "Han Chinese" is largely an artifact of CCP propaganda, and not the actual history of these regions, which attests to a mosaic of cultures and peoples.

If CCP rule collapsed, you'd see a surge of "local nationalisms" all throughout the various regions and provinces of China. It's very easy to argue an independent nationality for any given Chinese province too: just don't come from Beijing.
 
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