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http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/24/caitlyn-jenner-halloween-costume-sparks-social-media-outrage-.html

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...een-costume-labeled-817515?utm_source=twitter

It's nowhere near October, but one ensemble is already on track to be named the most controversial Halloween costume of 2015.

Social media users were out in full force on Monday criticizing several Halloween retailers for offering a Caitlyn Jenner costume reminiscent of the former-athlete's Vanity Fair cover earlier this year.

While Jenner's supporters condemned the costume as "transphobic" and "disgusting" on Twitter, Spirit Halloween, a retailer that carries the costume, defended the getup.

"At Spirit Halloween, we create a wide range of costumes that are often based upon celebrities, public figures, heroes and superheroes," said Lisa Barr, senior director of marking at Spirit Halloween. "We feel that Caitlyn Jenner is all of the above and that she should be celebrated. The Caitlyn Jenner costume reflects just that."

 

[Scratch This Nut]

did your dad lock you in a cage for being autistic?

Well God forbid someone feel bad for those people.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I think we disagree on whether denying them service is something that's done primarily out of discomfort, or as a deliberate act of exclusion. I don't find the latter to be productive at all.

Maybe, the incident in question seems to have been more about principle than discomfort, although who really knows. But a lot of the people here seem to be making blanket statements that would cover both scenarios, and I guarantee you that there are people out there who are uncomfortable serving police.

 

[AP 297]

Maybe, the incident in question seems to have been more about principle than discomfort, although who really knows. But a lot of the people here seem to be making blanket statements that would cover both scenarios, and I guarantee you that there are people out there who are uncomfortable serving police.

Perhaps they are, but police have a hard job and it is very difficult to find, recruit, train, maintain, and field an effective police force. This is a hard demanding job that pays very little in comparison to other higher risk professions.

I think people should serve them and attempt to make their lives as easy as possible. Uncomfort with the police is a personal problem. If a server is uncomfortable around the police they can find someone else to serve them at the establishment. The people often involved in this type of activity of refusing to serve cops are clearly doing it for political reasons.

Example: Red and Black Cafe

http://www.oregonlive.com/dining/index.ssf/2015/03/red_and_black_cafe_announces_c.html

Communication and cooperation is a 2 way street. If citizens feel threatened by the people who are sworn to protect them, it is a part of their civic duty to be more involved and attempt to understand their police force. Many US police departments have Citizen's Police Academies and once a year a group called National Town Watch holds events National Night Out events. Police want to be active and present in their communities. People need to give them a chance rather than bunkering. If there are officers that act inappropriately, then people need to know their rights and report them.

 

[Sczylak Madgar]

Well God forbid someone feel bad for those people.

Who the fuck cares about autistics

They're not even real people

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Communication and cooperation is a 2 way street. If citizens feel threatened by the people who are sworn to protect them, it is a part of their civic duty to be more involved and attempt to understand their police force.

I think given the recent incidents of police violence, it's extraordinarily charitable to say it's our duty to make ourselves comfortable with the police.

As for Red and Black, as I said above, a cop-free environment is effectively part of the service that they are selling to their customers, so I don't see what the problem is.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

Because comparing


Spot on.

If the abuser's son were not autistic, they'd be spewing a different tune.

But since the son was an autist (and his mother had mental issues, too), they think it's funny to act like total cunts about this.

Yes, thanks. But please stop feeding the shitposters. They're getting too fat and boring.

 

[AP 297]

I think given the recent incidents of police violence, it's extraordinarily charitable to say it's our duty to make ourselves comfortable with the police.

As for Red and Black, as I said above, a cop-free environment is effectively part of the service that they are selling to their customers, so I don't see what the problem is.

Alright lets look into recent events.

1. In Ferguson you had a man that it was confirmed reached for an Officer's gun. He was not a shining example of a model citizen. You had a community in general that had low local election turnout and pretty much very little active participation from many of the local residents. The result was that people who had been disengaged by their own choice were suddenly asking what was going on.

The Lesson: When you don't vote, you are accepting whatever happens.

2. In New York, you had a man allegedly illegally trying to sell cigarettes. He was known by the police and had many run ins with them. Again not a shining example of a model citizen and the neighborhood did not do much to discourage the type of behavior.

The Lesson: When you don't speak up and report crimes, the police have to patrol and engage without any knowledge of the situation.

3. Freddie Gray of the incident in Baltimore was also not a model citizen. He had an arrest record with drug charges and minor crimes. You had a region of the city that had lots of people who were not engaged with the local police department on a regular basis and also did not vote that often in municipal elections. As a response to a string of high crime in the 1990's, police in that city adopted aggressive tactics to deal with suspected criminals. With the crime ridden community doing little if anything to help itself, the police department turned themselves into occupiers.

The lesson: When you don't vote, don't report crimes, and don't address your neighborhood crime problems to the point that they impact surrounding areas - then those surrounding areas will get involved and make your decisions for you


There is a lesson and a thread in all this. People have obligations that come with their rights. If they do not live up to their obligations, then slowly their rights are taken away by their own lack of protest and action. It is a forfeit of rights by default.

As for Red and Black - you should have read the story and realized they went Bankrupt

 

[DuskEngine]

In Ferguson you had a man that it was confirmed reached for an Officer's gun. He was not a shining example of a model citizen. You had a community in general that had low local election turnout and pretty much very little active participation from many of the local residents. The result was that people who had been disengaged by their own choice were suddenly asking what was going on.

You also had a situation where the local government was quite literally using its citizens as a source of revenue by forcing them into latter-day debtors prisons. I think it is reasonable to look more uncharitably on that than on low election turnouts.

 

[AP 297]

You also had a situation where the local government was quite literally using its citizens as a source of revenue by forcing them into latter-day debtors prisons.

They did do that and it was all by their(the citizen's) lack of action that it happened. At any time they could have unseated the council. Often American Municipal elections can come down to turning out as few as 100 people. I have seen council elections with as little as 100 people voting in a seat that represents 5000 people.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I don't think this is the place to re-litigate the events of Ferguson, Staten Island and all the various other places where police behaviour has been perceived as falling short. There's a very long, very dense, very shit-posty thread specifically for that purpose.

Big picture however, unless you literally believe there has never been a point where police have behaved incorrectly, it seems unfair to say that it's the responsibility of the public of large to change their attitudes to those who have behaved poorly.

We don't owe the police our good opinion of them. We don't owe anybody our good opinion of them, but if we did owe it to anybody, it wouldn't be the group that had the legal power to coerce us regardless of our opinions.

 

[Randall Fragg]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/kim...ays-whats-wrong-with-eradicating-homosexuals/
Lol.

“In my administration I would do just like Mrs. Davis did in Kentucky,” Holmes said. “If you elect me, I’ll uphold the law of the state of North Carolina. I would get the D.A. to swear out a warrant on any man who says he’s gay. Sodomy is a crime, a felony in the state of North Carolina.”

As of the Herald’s interview last week, he wasn’t worried about the economy because he believed “Wall Street is going to blow up” anyway. He expected the destruction to come as part of a “blood moon” omen on Sunday.

We should watch this guy, he looks like he might be a lolcow in the making.

 

[Ruin]

I love the American South. It's America's sped classroom.

Edit: Wait he specifically says he'd jail gay men. Is he down with sapphic love like Dobson and Chris?

 

[AP 297]

I don't think this is the place to re-litigate the events of Ferguson, Staten Island and all the various other places where police behaviour has been perceived as falling short. There's a very long, very dense, very shit-posty thread specifically for that purpose.

Big picture however, unless you literally believe there has never been a point where police have behaved incorrectly, it seems unfair to say that it's the responsibility of the public of large to change their attitudes to those who have behaved poorly.

We don't owe the police our good opinion of them. We don't owe anybody our good opinion of them, but if we did owe it to anybody, it wouldn't be the group that had the legal power to coerce us regardless of our opinions.

The police is an arm of the government. In the US and other democracies, the police are regulated and controlled by the local elected leadership. You are talking to someone who has on a few occasions been both an annoyance and supporter of his local police chiefs. Police are tasked with enforcing the laws and policies of the government. Many of those laws and policies are determined on the local level. It would be far more appropriate for the owners of those establishments to not serve the local elected leaders(most of the time people have no idea who they are, despite wielding considerable power over their lives.)

There is a fundamental deeper bigger picture issue here. It is the fact that people ignore their local governments and focus more on mass televised national political events. That disconnect with voters and their local entities is exactly what is on display here.

As for officers behaving badly, know your rights and know how to politely assert them. Here are two of the best videos I have seen on this.

 

[K>C]

If we're comparing globally, Russians are fairly religious, comparable to Americans, generally more religious than most other European countries (honorable exception for Poland obviously). The big difference that an American dominionist might approve of, aside from the whole hatin'-dem-gays thing, is that Russia has no separation of Church and State - the Russian Orthodox Church is explicitly protected by the Russian government and the state's duty to preserve and maintain Orthodoxy is written into the constitution.

This is one of the best indicators that, despite what lazy op-ed columnists might say, Putin is not just resurrecting the Soviet Union wholesale - he's fashioning a new autocracy that draws from some aspects of Soviet totalitarianism (mostly its military successes) but draws, I would argue, equally heavily on the cultural and political legacy of Imperial Russia, with the Orthodox Church playing a major part of that.

Kinda like this?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?...4a45d5b20db2be48f5b3458009038053o0&ajaxhist=0

 

[AnOminous]

No, but if there is somebody who is genuinely uncomfortable around cops, I think that's something that people need to respect, and I think given how much crazy shit cops are doing, I think we should give somebody the benefit of the doubt if they claim to be uncomfortable.

Suppose someone doesn't want to serve blacks because they're traumatized by it. I'd have no sympathy for that.

And if I were paying someone's salary at a cash-heavy workplace like a restaurant, and I had an employee who was deliberately antagonizing the cops who would be the people to protect my business when it was robbed, I would INSTANTLY fire them. They're jeopardizing the entire business and endangering other employees. Not to mention, they're complete dicks.

If it's a real mental problem they can go get therapy.

 

[Silver]

Oh hell I do not want this in my home state

 

[Randall Fragg]

Found a video from the local news on him.
http://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/21108862-video

 

[Dr. Meme]

anything to get rid of these fucking homos. I hate dealing with their shit on a daily basis.

 

[Tookie]

Edit: Wait he specifically says he'd jail gay men. Is he down with sapphic love like Dobson and Chris?

Solid plan. Prison would surely be the last place sodomy would take place.

 

[Hat]

Where do I go to donate to this man's campaign fund?