Is Chris getting worse? - discussion about recent developments.

[WorldsSmartestManRonOTool]

It makes me think of those people who theorize about going back in time, adopting Baby Hitler, and raising him in a different environment in hopes he doesn't become Hitler Hitler. Could Baby Chris have grown up differently had he been rescued from borb and the fateful sanic sweepstakes?

The decline has been steady. It's just the speed which has amped up.

He absolutely could have turned out better. I think Barb did more damage to Chris than anyone, and bears the vast majority of the responsibility for how he turned out. If Barb isn't a narcissist, she's certainly a very manipulative person, and that's rubbed off on Chris. He's talked about her making him feel guilty or making threats to get him to do or not do things that she wants. He's done the same thing to other people, and it's pretty clear where he learned that behavior. I'm aware of a situation here, where a lying, manipulative, deceitful mother raised a son who developed the same qualities. In that case, those traits earned him a well deserved, lengthy prison sentence he is currently serving.

For the most part, a newborn baby is a pretty blank slate, and that child is going to learn what it is taught and imitate what it sees. Some may have genetic or other issues like Chris, and that gives them more of an uphill battle. But kids believe what their parents tell them, and Bob and Barb gave him mixed signals from the beginning: on one hand, he's "disabled" or whatever, and not capable of different things, on the other hand, he's "special" and better than everyone else. I think that's why he tries to play his autism on both sides of the fence, he brags about being high functioning and all the ways he's overcome it, but if he's confronted with a shortcoming, he uses the autism as the excuse. Because Bob and Barb taught him that.

The people that generally have the best attitude and are most aware of their mental or physical challenge are those who had parents who got them the assistance they needed and spent the necessary time with them to help them overcome it. I give Bob and Barb a bit of leniency as far as them being older and likely unfamiliar with autism. But for whatever reason, they made a conscious decision not to get him the help he needed, and instead use video games and toys as a babysitter and to keep them out of their hair. If Chris was born into a family that would have learned everything they could about autism at his diagnosis, got treatment for him, and most importantly, spent quality family time with him, interacting with him and trying to teach him how to grow into a good person, the outcome would have been much different.

But like I said on another thread, other factors shaped Chris too, he truly is a perfect storm of dysfunction, I just think Barb owns the biggest share of responsibility.

 

[kaiwaii]

I think Chris has always had a borderline personality disorder truthfully. It's also not uncommon for borderlines to switch genders either.

 

[Cupcakes55]

I think Chris has always had a borderline personality disorder truthfully. It's also not uncommon for borderlines to switch genders either.

I've heard of that. Has Chris ever been suicidal?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Has Chris ever been suicidal?

In 2013, Chris commented that he had considered suicide, but "The only reasons I don't do it are my mother and my dogs, and that premature death leaves one in Limbo." [October 2013 Facebook Posts]

 

[Subconcious Offense]

He also likes to exaggerate for pity points, and this was said on his Facebook while trying to talk to his "gal pals." Always take everything he says about himself with a grain of salt.

 

[CharlieBrowns]

Limbo? Wow, Chris' views on spirituality are fascinating and I wish we could find out more. Feels like a mostly untapped area.

 

[Marvin]

I've heard of that. Has Chris ever been suicidal?

As far as I know, Chris has never been suicidal.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

that quote really hits me, but also brings up the question of who is the real antagonist in Chris' life?

Spoiler: Before 18

Spoiler: After 18

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Chris could have BPD, but he could never get a real diagnosis because of the very literal black and white thinking of autism that can be mistaken for BPD.
People with BPD also tend to be very good with reading people (socializers), and generic attention hungry weens don't count. It's more likely for a woman to be diagnosed at first with BPD, and after they exhaust all resources on trying to find out what's wrong, they usually find out they might have Aspergers or autism. This is not for all women with BPD or ASD.
I'm really concerned about the old lady Chris was spotted with at Omegacon; I don't think asspats and people that humor him can be the most helpful.

Everyone likes to blame Barb for Chris' ineptitude with socializing, but he had a father that should have shipped him off to a special school when he caught his son spooning with his wife. Do you know how sick that sounds?

 

[Broseph]

I agree on this part. Like WorldsSmartestManRonOTool, I knew someone who is very similar to Chris. He almost shares the same past, condition, enviroment, and having a looney of a mother who solely raised him. Though being less crazier than Chris, he can act randomly at the most inconvenient times/ circumstances. Last time I heard of this guy he went full tardrage on conventions, expos and cinemas, sperging over the most insignificant crap. In the end he got himself involved with the authorities and got himself banned at most of those places. What I'm trying to say is I can relate Chris to that guy I knew.
Whenever Chris is on his own he will seek out problems. After all, there's noone to hold him back. When he goes into full sperg-mode he could seriously hurt himself or other people around him. By now we do know what Chris is capable of ( remember the taint guys). Afterwards, like I said before, other people need to solve his shit which he caused. In the end Chris does nothing but leeching off society for being an ass.

I'm very sure that Chris would get the shit beaten out of him if he ever decided to chimp out on someone.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

who is the real antagonist in Chris' life?

 

[InTheSidePocket]

As far as I know, Chris has never been suicidal.

he probably loves himself too much.

or, he'd be too scared to, do you think?

 

[Marvin]

Everyone likes to blame Barb for Chris' ineptitude with socializing, but he had a father that should have shipped him off to a special school when he caught his son spooning with his wife. Do you know how sick that sounds?

It's not that crazy if it was a younger child. Bob was bothered, but at the same time, Chris was kind of a tard. Bob tried to intervene, but Barb chimped out.

he probably loves himself too much.

or, he'd be too scared to, do you think?

Nothing is Chris' fault. Why should Chris die?

 

[Iam]

It's very odd, even though his tard episodes have not increased, the crap he does in them is completely off the charts relative to that guy that used crayola model magic to hold his glasses together. I think Chris' epsidoes will be more frequent and more outlandish after Barb's expected demise. At this point, IRL or on the internet, I do not think Chris could be trusted to keep his sick crap and lack of boundaries to himself. I have lost all sympathy for Chris, but I still would not enjoy seeing any real harm come to him because he cannot control himself.

Everyone claims that Chris would be a great case study or thesis in Neurology, Psychiatry, or Psychology, but I think Chris would be better studied from a social or sociological viewpoint. Chris is a prime example of how human beings are adept at spotting a social threat (ultimate danger to the gene pool), isolating it, and neutralizing it, no matter how much it tries to sneak back in wearing different disguises.

I think you are on to something and yes, Chris has become worse over the years and there is no end in sight to the downward spiral. While his being overall quieter may on the surface be a positive signt, I suspect it is more a sympton of his having given up, almost entirely, on ever changing his situation for the better.

Old Chris, for all his insanity and randomness, seemed actively engaged in doing something for himself even if in the laziest way possible. Through Sonichu he got to enact what amounts to what Freud calls 'omnipotence of thoughts', the belief that his mental constructs can have a real impact in the external world. The curse-ha-me-ha is probably the finest example of this.
It is deranged but at least it could be diverted into something good, with some intensive therapy, since it did span from a desire to improve his life. More than that, it included other people. The trolls have caused Chris a world of hurt but in a strange way they were also a source of social interaction.
Now that Chris has isolated himself almost entirely from others and has even desisted on actually connecting with anyone, his paranoia and frustration is more internalized. Not that the trolls did not occasionally harm him in very veritable ways, to this day the Bluespike incident makes me cringe, but they allowed him to rage and vent some of the pent-up frustration that I am sure had been building up for years.

These days, instead of doing the Claw of Fury and mumbling furious empty threats at the camera he up and maces a game shop employee because Sega changed the color of Sonic's arms.

And yes, I wish professionals would actually study Chris from a sociological approach as his whole life is already a very change social experiment as it is.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

These days, instead of doing the Claw of Fury and mumbling furious empty threats at the camera he up and maces a game shop employee because Sega changed the color of Sonic's arms.

This could easily be attributed to Chris asking asspatters, "well what do I do so everyone thinks I am a real girl".....and the asspatters would reply "x y z, quit being your violent abrasive self because most women are not that way"
While Chris' behavior is less self-destructive, with his last speech about incest, I don't think his change in attitude will last forever.

 

[Iam]

If we take the whole taint thing, which is a sign something has gone terribly wrong in his head, I'd say his behavior may actually be more self-destructive than it used to be.

The apparent mellowing out may indeed have something to do with his idea of what is appropriate female conduct but I suspect that repressing violent instincts will lead to more instances of his attacking random individuals for completely oddball reasons. When that happens, we have mace-incidents in which he forgets all about being 'ladylike'.

 

[King Kong... with wings?]

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[Pickle Inspector]

If we take the whole taint thing, which is a sign something has gone terribly wrong in his head, I'd say his behavior may actually be more self-destructive than it used to be.

The apparent mellowing out may indeed have something to do with his idea of what is appropriate female conduct but I suspect that repressing violent instincts will lead to more instances of his attacking random individuals for completely oddball reasons. When that happens, we have mace-incidents in which he forgets all about being 'ladylike'.

Mace is ladylike in Chris's mind though, he even had the story of how the store employee startling him was "similar to a potential Rapist in a Dark Alley in a big city" so according to Chris he was just like those women who mace potential rapists like he's probably seen on some TV show.

 

[InTheSidePocket]

If we take the whole taint thing, which is a sign something has gone terribly wrong in his head, I'd say his behavior may actually be more self-destructive than it used to be.

The apparent mellowing out may indeed have something to do with his idea of what is appropriate female conduct but I suspect that repressing violent instincts will lead to more instances of his attacking random individuals for completely oddball reasons. When that happens, we have mace-incidents in which he forgets all about being 'ladylike'.

I guess if you live in Victorian times being "mellow" is ladylike.

Chris probably thinks real girls just think about MLP and go shopping all day.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I guess if you live in Victorian times being "mellow" is ladylike.

Chris probably thinks real girls just think about MLP and go shopping all day.

That is exactly what Chris thinks women do. Every female character in Sonichu is either shopping, getting railed, or performing some kind of domestic chore.

 

[Iam]

I didn't say that being mellow is in way 'ladylike', I said that Chris most likely thinks so.