Is the idea of society going "peak trans" just a cope?

[LillWeeb]

I know there is a lot of doom posting an what not as of late, but is the idea of society slowly or suddenly reaching "peak trans" just a right wing cope?? There is no evidence of people rising up and saying no more troonery. I think this will play out as all degenerate things society accepts over time. society always drifts more leftist/ liberal, all any conservatives had done in history is slow it for a generation or two I just can't as of today see peak trans becoming a thing to the population at large. What do you all think is "peak trans" just a cope?

 

[XM-05 Thanatos]

If the average person cannot realize that all homosexuals are mentally ill and that homosexuality in humans is a result of deep trauma, I highly doubt the same will happen with trannies, as much as I would like for it to happen.

 

[Screamer_2]

My gauging of it is there are a lot of people unsure about the whole thing. Yet they don't know the true specifics to reach peak. As it's a censored reality for most. Then there are so many people who are just detached from knowing anything who just think, "yeah sure whatever" and are so low information they don't know enough to understand why anyone would be concerned.

 

[Gunter Hatherer]

There must necessarily be peak trans at some point, but my sense is we're nowhere near.

Perhaps a massive revenge of the eunuchs when the current crop of grade school trannies grow up?

 

[draggs]

There is a large amount of evidence that the worm is turning on troonery

If you're going to say things like there isn't such evidence

And lazy leddit tier takes of "history"

And use dramatic language that makes it clear you won't be satisfied with anything

And you have some glowing eyed animal eared huge tiddied animu pfp

Then I won't take you seriously and will laugh at you

Ha ha you

 

[fakemon]

If the average person cannot realize that all homosexuals are mentally ill and that homosexuality in humans is a result of deep trauma, I highly doubt the same will happen with trannies, as much as I would like for it to happen.

I assert that faggotry is just a strand of transgenderism. It always was. It's obviously a man who wants to live sexually as a woman. He may want to present effeminate, or he may not, but the fact is he wants to fuck men, as is normal for women. He is a partial-transgender or a partroon.

okay i haven't got a catchy name for this yet, but it's an undeniable truth.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

My opinion, I don't think society will specifically reach "peak trans", it'll just get tired of identity politics in general.
Or maybe it's more accurate to say that the sectors of society that promote identity politics will simply lose sway, due to shifting global conditions.

Idk if society always drifts more liberal, I think a lot of people might argue that a bunch of men in dresses being able to bully chicks out of their own sports isn't especially progressive.

If "Peak trans" is a cope, it's more a TERF cope than anything because that suggests it'll only affect trannies. Eventually something will happen, possibly something serious, that will simply make people no longer interested in hearing about which special group you belong to separate from the rest of society.

I assert that faggotry is just a strand of transgenderism. It always was. It's obviously a man who wants to live sexually as a woman. He may want to present effeminate, or he may not, but the fact is he wants to fuck men, as is normal for women. He is a partial-transgender or a partroon.

okay i haven't got a catchy name for this yet, but it's an undeniable truth.

The terf term for trannies who want to fuck men is HSTS (homosexual transexual).

There's like a whole glossary somewhere here on the site.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

If it's a social contagion fad, then it can peak and decline to "normal" levels like the gays nobody cares about anymore. Maybe to be replaced by something worse?

The medical science community could put the kibosh on trans in the short term by making it clear that all the hormones and surgeries just lead to outcomes like cancer and suicide. Then positions against trans, or at least "gender-affirming care", can be given legitimacy. On the other hand, improved medical technology enables retards to get whatever they can afford. Just do the artificial womb transplant or human head transplant and you can be a real woman.

All this to say, "meh who knows". I see dooming as the safe bet.

 

[Weed Eater]

Okay, here's a taste of what I think is "peak trans", and how I believe that we actually are going through moments of people getting "peaked" in recent years.

So, I've mentioned it before, I'm a Californian who doesn't currently live in California anymore. Therefore, in my youth I had the "pleasure" or "misfortune" (really your pick) of growing up in said state.

I tried to be a "leftist", like most teenagers I was confused, full of hormones, and trying to figure out the world like everyone else. I not only lived in a leftist, democratic-majority state, but all my peers were left-leaning as well. The 2010s are so important to me not just because of the fact that's when a lot of "wokeness", tumblr opinions, and LGBT opinions really started to sprout up more in the mainstream, it's the fact that I was in my teenhood in the 2010s.

Unlike other teenagers, I actually browsed 4chan and /b/ (not the best board of choice, but arguably a step above /pol/). Even before this account existed, I sometimes dabbled in browsing KF. I remember Gamergate going down, SOPA, Edward Snowden's "traitorous" act against the CIA, BLM came into existence, gay marriage being legalized federally, and of course Bruce Jenner becoming "Caitlyn". Unlike most of my peers, I was open to "the other side", I was open to crazy crackpot /pol/ Holocaust theories, not just because I thought they "made me think a little differently", but because it was funny, it was different, it wasn't the same bullshit woke/leftist talking points that I had to deal with from my own, teenaged peers.

And then transgender topics started to flood in, I'd argue around 2013-2015 was when it really hit the ground running. I had already lost (internet) friends to the tranny mindset, I already was becoming against the LGBT talking points, but you cannot go against the grain when the majority of your peers are leftist or left-leaning. I was in H.S. by this point. I still remember the inklings that I was "peaking", and it was two points.
One, I had a friend who showed me Eurovision's 2014 winner, "Conchita Wurst", and the biggest talking point was the fact that "she" was trans, I also remember the bushy beard Conchita has being another big talking point. "Isn't so cool!?", my obvious grimace and "what the fuck" look told my friend everything else. I seriously didn't understand how anyone would find it "interesting", or even "inspiring". Oh, I should also mention this happened in my H.S. "Gay-Straight Alliance" club after school.

The second time, which also happened in "GSA", was when everyone was going around talking a bit about themselves. It was more about "showing solidarity, and that GSA is a safe space!" than making true introductions. It also was a way for "the straights" to ask questions and have a better understanding of people's "sexualities, pronouns, and whatever else that may be important." One girl made it a point to say she was "demisexual", and being the sort of "debate kid", I tried to tackle that topic. Upon asking what the hell a "demisexual" even was, I got the explanation. A demisexual is someone who does not have sexual attraction to someone unless an emotional or romantic connection is made, AKA, "I'm not a whore and I prefer to actually get to know someone to see if they're a good fit for me." I pretty much told this to this girl, that this wasn't a sexuality, and it isn't, because it has nothing to do with sex or "gender". It's a sexuality completely based on personal feeling. Naturally I got tore the fuck open, I actually made this girl genuinely pissed, and my social reputation started to go down the shitter once it had left "GSA". I stopped going to that club after some time because it obviously wasn't for me, and I wasn't going to go to a space where I knew I wasn't "supposed" to feel welcome.

I know, it's a lot of words, "What is the point?" The point is the fact that you cannot go against these opinions. They already were making it very clear even before 2016 that they wanted all this weird gender ideology shit to become the new normal. The most my parents had to worry about was me being "bisexual" (grew out of it, naturally) or being "androgynous" (I just liked to dress up in "masculine" clothing, had a weird thing against the color pink, again, I grew out of this), because this was the shit that was surrounding me when I was in my teens. It's now evolved and gone beyond that. Sexualities can now be a "innate feeling" that has nothing to do with the sex of a human being (like demisexuality), "gender" is just a "social construct", you can "be whatever you FEEL you want to be". Nobody, I and mean nobody I went to school with, had ever thought about becoming trans or nonbinary until after 2016/2017/2018 when we were all officially graduating and/or becoming legal adults. One friend was a flamboyant gay, he immediately trooned out after school, knew another gay where on graduation he showed up in a dress and made his "coming out" announcement. Many female friends ended up going the nonbinary route, even the one friend who I shared Moonman memes with has tread the nonbinary "I'm a special snowflake" line and it saddens me to no end.

If "peak trans" is a cope, then yes I'm coping, I'm coping the loss of people I once knew. I'm coping the loss of normalcy in modern people, and I know I'm not the only person feeling and thinking this way.

 

[fakemon]

The terf term for trannies who want to fuck men is HSTS (homosexual transexual).

There's like a whole glossary somewhere here on the site.

terfs don't really know shit. how could they, they're women.

any man who is sexually attracted to a man is, at least partially, transgender because HE exhibits a FEMALE trait (of being attracted to men).

it's as simple as that. trannies try to confuse the issue. faggots try to confuse the issue. terfs try to confuse the issue. i bring you clarification.

everything makes sense when you think in terms of MEN having FEMALE traits (or delusions of femininity). 'homosexual' just means partially transgender.

 

[Gog & Magog]

It's difficult to be certain about the future. What I am certain about is that men are not women and women are not men. And if there's one thing people hate more than anything else, it's being wrong. Eventually, dogma wears thin and people begin asking for the whole truth.
EDIT: I'd like to add that a long term resolution to this current problem won't come from conservatives alone. It will require liberals and conservatives; doctors and patients, journalists and activists, legislators and voters. This movement isn't about empowering one political party over another. Its about the truth and helping these people know it. Like I said, I don't know what tomorrow holds but I do know and believe there is enough good out there to prevail. So long as there remains one person willing to acknowledge the truth in spite of all the powers that conspire against them, I still have hope.

 

[LillWeeb]

My opinion, I don't think society will specifically reach "peak trans", it'll just get tired of identity politics in general.
Or maybe it's more accurate to say that the sectors of society that promote identity politics will simply lose sway, due to shifting global conditions.

Idk if society always drifts more liberal, I think a lot of people might argue that a bunch of men in dresses being able to bully chicks out of their own sports isn't especially progressive.

If "Peak trans" is a cope, it's more a TERF cope than anything because that suggests it'll only affect trannies. Eventually something will happen, possibly something serious, that will simply make people no longer interested in hearing about which special group you belong to separate from the rest of society.


The terf term for trannies who want to fuck men is HSTS (homosexual transexual).

There's like a whole glossary somewhere here on the site.

I totally agree it would be a more terf cope. Lurking on Ovarit out of boredom when the farms where down , I learned the terfs have this strange world view that almost women are against tranny stuff, and it's all men secretly pushing for it to destroy women's spaces. But from my experience and I think most others on this site, know that IT HAS BEEN CIS WOMAN WHO OVERWHELMING SUPPORT TROONS in the past decade whether sympathetically to the idea of a hypothetical tranny on paper or a staunch defender. Can't tell you how many woman I know in IRL and seen on social media post trans rights are human rights. While almost every straight man I know hate troons. So terfs are in complete denial about who supports who.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

No no, it's definitely not a cope, and I'm sure the pendulum will swing back any day now, SJWs are just a fringe minority on tumblr whom no one should take seriously, gen Z will rebel against their parents and become based, china is going to collapse before the west does, world war 3 will never happen and there will never be another draft, the majority of people agree with right-wingers, and once the government pushes the people hard enough a Robospiere or Hitler figure will rise up and overthrow the government, trust me I drive trucks for a living I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Well, as some have posted above, it's not going to just involve people becoming sick of transgenderism, otherkin, and other forms of trendy mental illness.

It's also going to involve people becoming sick of homosexuality, becoming aware of the fact that homosexuality actually IS a choice and it isn't unfair to discriminate against those who engage in it, especially not in regards to marriage. People will become sick of identity politics.

Well, even in the worst case scenario, even if society does not reach peak trans, here's something of a silver lining: such a situation is not sustainable. It will collapse, and hard times will come.

That sounds doomerish, but hear me out: The only reason why society has gotten so decadent/degenerate is because we're too comfortable. Sheltered from any sort of real hardship. Our brains fried on dopamine, constantly seeking out new means of getting the latest fix, no matter how self-destructive.

Hardships give our life meaning. It's the kick in the ass that many of us, even on the Farms, so desperately need.

It is no coincidence that homosexuality and troonism are an upper class thing, even today. Spoiled brats with enough resources or time to navel-gaze about their sexuality or gender identity. They pursue hedonistic lifestyles and are much less likely to give any sort of serious thought to the future, especially in regards to, "how do I ensure my bloodline doesn't die out?" or, "Who will take care of me when I'm old and frail so that I'm not shut up in a crappy nursing home?"

Do you honestly think that anyone is going to give two fucks about made-up identities based off of self-defeating sexual practices, or the irrational hatred of immutable biological realities, when society has devolved to third world levels, or during the apocalypse? No, they'd be too busy worrying about the same bullshit that humans have worried about for millenia: how to feed themselves and their families, how they are going to defend themselves against hostile tribes and warlords, etc.

I think that the reason why "homophobia" is so extent in so many societies throughout history is because we have long cultural memories. Somehow, we connect the normalization of homosexuality to the beginning of the end of great civilizations.


Anyway, if the pendulum DOES swing back before the collapse, and we have a return to some semblence of normalcy and decency, troon ideology will eventually make a return, even within our own lifespans, even more depraved than before.

 

[Penis]

I think the whole tranny shit is just what "terminally online" people argue about. Im in a pretty blue state and have yet to have anyone IRL bring up tranny issues.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

If there’s something more degenerate than being a tranny, the focus will shift to that. Pedophilia is the brass ring of degenerate behavior and is the real justification for trannydom. By forcing sexuality on kids at a young age, there is no “innocence” to take and therefore becomes less problematic. But some random pederast isn’t going to have access to kids at long last, this is all meant for the elites who don’t want to have to go to jail Epstein-style. Chester the Molester will still get the book thrown at him but our financial elites will be able to fuck children with total impunity. If a bunch of girls have to get their tits mangled and chopped off in the process, so be it.

 

[Totallyunknown]

Yes.

You cannot close the book on this now. The sunk cost is far too great for anyone to admit they were wrong. The most you will get is pushback by parents of the children who are transitioned too early and face negative health consequences. Enough will sue in due time to make it less lucrative to do it to children and the lobbyist will create new laws preventing it because the medical damages will outweigh personal beliefs.

After 18 though - you cannot take away someone's right to do something, especially after such a shift of acceptance of transition in western society now. The oppression Olympics will play on because identity politics go beyond pronouns. Identity politics now is segregated identities - what or who do you identify with or as? That is the most important part of society now which allows for a lot easier control of the masses as long as we are all divided.

I've accepted the doomerism - this battle cannot be won, but I'm sure as hell going to mock it and point and laugh as it burns.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

It'd look like the peak of a saw wave, not transitions on a square wave

 

[Grub]

I have two minds about this. On one hand I'm hopeful peak trans is real and soon. Most average people generally don't give a fuck about trannies either way or are repulsed by them. You can only push a bunch of bullshit nonsense on people so far before they get sick of it.

On the other hand my autistic conspiratorial belief is that this trans shit is part of a much bigger push for transhumanism on society and is all a giant experiment because all the insanely rich motherfuckers who in a large part have massive investment in the medical industry are terrified of death and desperately want to prove the human body is a moldable shell that can be remade to suit a person's whim so they never have to die. They're getting old and desperate now so humanity has pretty much become a giant Petri dish for them to experiment on. So basically, this trannie shit's just the beginning and it's only going to get more ungodly and horrifying from there.

 

[L50LasPak]

I think the exact peak moment will be when furries go mainstream. Once the LGBTQ++ gains that F, its gonna be too heavy to stay in one piece, and we're gonna see some serious shit.