Is the idea of society going "peak trans" just a cope?

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Individuals may change their mind and tell troontroothers "I forgive you," but the institutions that back down will only say, "Please forgive us." They'll deny that they ever went so far ("We never wanted to give minors mastectomies! We never said detransitioning was rare! We never said any kid who wanted to transition should do so!") and still hold animosity toward the other side ("We were just doing the best we could with what we knew at the time, but you were only against it this whole time because you were transphobic").

Even those people got burned pretty hard by those who refused to forget that YES, they did know better, and what's more, they sought to suppress those who weren't in the pocket of the industrial medical complex.

Hopefully they'll be burned even harder when the same thing happens to transgenderism being discredited. They were motivated by money and their sick fetishes, WE KNOW they're motivated by money and sick fetishes.

I hope everyone remembers what the fuck they did, to never let them forget it, and to remind them as often as possible the crimes they committed against humanity. It doesn't fucking matter what the science says, common sense dictates that stitching the remains of mutilated body parts up into a crude facsimile of opposite sex genitals is a horrific crime against humanity and nature, just as much as turning someone into a potato by shoving an iron spike into their head just because you want an easy way out of dealing with mental and emotional illness.

The assholes pushing troon ideology have even less of an excuse than lobotomists.

I'm sure that like there are still public maskers, there will still be people who insist on respecting everyone's self-chosen pronouns. But most of the trendy theyfabs will just quietly take the pronouns out of their bios, let their hair grow out in its natural color, dress like an adult woman, and let everyone simply call them she. They'll be much more at peace, too, realizing the gender phase just created more problems than it solved. The medical transitioners will be more stubborn due to the sunken costs, but at least they'll give up on trying to fix "transphobes" and just accept that not everyone will accept them.

The reason why gender dysphoric people are are so adamant about everyone else respecting their pronouns and gender identity is because anything that invalidates their self-perception causes them extreme emotional pain.

Narcissistic injury. Even if you take away their institutional power that is not going to change.

Asking willfully confused degenerates to not throw a tard fit over someone calling them by what they are (their biological sex) is asking too damn much of them.

Best case scenario, they will detransition and find a way to unfuck themselves as best as they can. Middle case scenario, they get institutionalized or jailed after assaulting someone who didn't respect their pronouns. Worst case scenario, they off themselves.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Best case scenario, they will detransition and find a way to unfuck themselves as best as they can. Middle case scenario, they get institutionalized or jailed after assaulting someone who didn't respect their pronouns. Worst case scenario, they off themselves.

You got it backwards. Offing themselves is the best case scenario, while detransitioning is the worst case one. Detransitioners are a drain on the medical system and giving them too much attention steals that attention from people who suffer THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. Every resource in this world is limited, even intangible ones like compassion. You'd best use them frugally.

 

[fakemon]

Are you drunk or just actually this retarded?

i rarely drink and i am far from retarded.

your weak response tells me you're projecting or avoiding.

 

[La Salpêtrière]

right. we actually agree. interesting thing about the brain scans btw.

my point is (a later post explains this) that a man wanting to fuck men is a woman-trait. That IS transgender.

wanting to butcher your genitals is NOT transgender. It's mental illness.

our language is so fucked up on the subject that obvious truths are missed.

There are VERY rare exceptions related to androgen insensitivity and similar, but they're so rare that they don't relate to the elephant in the room which is that almost all 'trannies' are not transgender, they're just fucking mental, and that people who have actual transgender traits (e.g. faggots, bearded women, etc.) do not actually SEE themselves as transgender. Even though they actually are, to a greater or lesser extent.

The tern you're looking for is gender non-conforming. Transgenderism (as in, today) it's a meme term in a culture war. Transexual is pure bullshit, no one can change their sex. And gender non conforming (GNC, for short) it's when you don't confirm to your gender, either for medical or personal reasons. It's maybe the genesis of transgenderism, true. But just like you said, most trannies today aren't even GNC.

 

[fakemon]

The tern you're looking for is gender non-conforming. Transgenderism (as in, today) it's a meme term in a culture war. Transexual is pure bullshit, no one can change their sex. And gender non conforming (GNC, for short) it's when you don't confirm to your gender, either for medical or personal reasons. It's maybe the genesis of transgenderism, true. But just like you said, most trannies today aren't even GNC.

lol i know exactly the language i'm using, but thanks!

i agree, the way we use 'trans' anything is currently bullshit. i'm redefining it to be more meaningful. i.e. a trans-trait is just a trait that someone has that is typically associated with the opposite sex. A woman with a excessive facial hair, a man with boobs. Both natural, and not entirely uncommon.

so, being sexually/romantically attracted to the opposite sex is, by this definition, also a trans trait. It's amusing to annoy faggots that they're really 'trans' by this more meaningful definition, but it's also true.

 

[disavow]

lol i know exactly the language i'm using, but thanks!

i agree, the way we use 'trans' anything is currently bullshit. i'm redefining it to be more meaningful. i.e. a trans-trait is just a trait that someone has that is typically associated with the opposite sex. A woman with a excessive facial hair, a man with boobs. Both natural, and not entirely uncommon.

so, being sexually/romantically attracted to the opposite sex is, by this definition, also a trans trait. It's amusing to annoy faggots that they're really 'trans' by this more meaningful definition, but it's also true.

Lol Reddit "I am Very Smart" word games.

 

[fakemon]

Lol Reddit "I am Very Smart" word games.

fuck off faggot

 

[jje100010001]

Interesting article on the two intersecting groups that make up the bulk of tr00n advocacy:

The so-far triumphant transgender movement is a political coalition that includes two polar opposite sets of allies who are so radically different in their thought styles that they can’t even begin to understand each other: naive nice moms and smart but not-at-all nice nerdy ex-men. The incoherence of transgenderist ideology is inevitable because its proponents aren’t at all on the same wavelength.

A large part of the mainstream support for the transgender mania comes from nice white-lady mothers, pretty much the same well-meaning suburban moms who buy those “In this house, we believe” lawn signs off the arts-and-crafts website Etsy:

In this house, we believe:
Black Lives Matter.
Women’s rights are human rights.
No human is illegal.
Science is real.
Love is love.
Kindness is everything.

In contrast to the monist moms are the atomist shock troops of transgenderism: unkind extreme male brain nerds who like drawing distinctions almost as much as dressing like their mothers with a simple string of pearls.

But only a small fraction of the nice moms who support “transgender health care” for children (i.e., poisoning, mutilating, and sterilizing) have even noticed the existence of the aggressive autogynephilic fetishists who make up so many of the thought leaders of the trans push. Noticing anything that’s less than wholly validating about The Marginalized is too unkind to dream of doing.

Hence, the nice moms don’t realize they are being fed their lines largely by high-IQ, ruthlessly self-centered men who want to force everybody to uphold their sex fantasy.

https://www.takimag.com/article/invasion-of-the-nasty-nerds/

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

I think they'll peak Trans when the detrans waves start coming in droves and these butchers calling themselves doctors get sued.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I think they'll peak Trans when the detrans waves start coming in droves and these butchers calling themselves doctors get sued.

Yeah, to expand on my earlier point about the medical community... we will hit peak trans when gender-affirming care is considered as dangerous as smoking by institutions. Due to it causing cancer, brain damage, infections, life-long pain, random complications, suicides, etc. With the end result being years shaved off the lifespan that can't be blamed on violent "transphobes". Even if all the evidence is within reach, it will still take a huge effort and lawsuits to make it stick.

I don't think anyone in the thread so far quite gets it. Like 80-90 percent of the trans and weird gender shit is a literal fashion trend. If it was all legitimate, we wouldn't be having a literal bandwagon phase where people think they're minorities just for dying their hair pink. I would contrast this against actual gays and lesbians and maybe a smaller subset of people who do in fact have gender dysphoria or would have chosen to be trannies if it weren't popular.

Since most of this is a weird new-age fashion trend that has adapted things like body disfigurement, hormone use, whatever, the tides can change quite quickly with the younger generations abandoning it whole-sale. This hasn't happened yet of course, but I'm sure it will come at some point.

However, separating it from other trends like the hippies or whatever, there will be a stagnant contingent of older troons who bought too much into it to change course to adapt to the new trend (because they fucked up their bodies permanently). They will stay around annoying people for quite some time, but it won't be the social force it is now.

There will also be a contingent of buyer's remorse especially among former "trans-kids" which will lead to lawsuits. These lawsuits will have a chilling effect on the forces that control mainstream culture.

While the left can try to keep a cap on the backlash, I don't think they will be able to completely. While there will always be trannies, you will see a point where trannies go back to being tranies like they were in the 90's or the mid-2000's or whatever without it being a wider fashion trend with the youth. The shit is just too cringey to survive forever imo. While cringe can be popular for many years in pop-culture, eventually it burns itself out and stops being cool. Think about, for example, how Nirvana suddenly killed hair metal and corny 80's/90's pop acts like Vanilla Ice.

I predict the next fashion statement will be Extinction Rebellion inspired mass suicides.

 

[cybertoaster]

I think the exact peak moment will be when furries go mainstream. Once the LGBTQ++ gains that F, its gonna be too heavy to stay in one piece, and we're gonna see some serious shit.

No it wont because only the "safe" furry stuff will go mainstream, people will think about tiny-toon like female characters with big tits, not vore diaper porn. Its just like how there's this mainstream vision of gays being about fashion and elegance but hardly anyone knows let alone talks about the sick shit like the bathhouses, piss orgies, etc...

This is of course no accident, there was a massive effort post-AIDS to clean up the image of the gay community, and it will be the same with furries.

 

[The Foxtrot]

I predict the next fashion statement will be Extinction Rebellion inspired mass suicides.

I honestly both fear this possibility and anticipate it at the same time.
Fear it because a lot of people who are just trying to fit in will be duped into committing suicide for nothing.
Anticipate it because a lot of people who are too fucking stupid to actually think for themselves and therefore aren't worth keeping alive will be duped into committing suicide.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

The Trans shit is just a method to further atomize individuals. You can argue about if it’s old fucks being swindled by snake oil salesmen who’ve told them that troons are a key ingredient to the elixir of immortality.
I believe that the powers that be want to ensure that the masses can never truly organize against them. If you feed them a bullshit idealology that their parents can’t understand, and that makes it hard to form a family.

People castrating themselves is a part of the cycle of human nature. The Cathars did this shit and it took the Church genociding them for their bullshit to die down.

 

[Screamer_2]

I think they'll peak Trans when the detrans waves start coming in droves and these butchers calling themselves doctors get sued.

Why would you assume this would get enough attention in the media or elsewhere to go mainstream? We currently live in a time where there's very little reporting on vaccine injury. Excess death rates are up and there's no mainstream coverage. So people like me go, "I think something's there, but I honestly don't know." Yet most people are unaware, and if they wanted to find out wouldn't even get to where I am.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Why would you assume this would get enough attention in the media or elsewhere to go mainstream? We currently live in a time where there's very little reporting on vaccine injury. Excess death rates are up and there's no mainstream coverage. So people like me go, "I think something's there, but I honestly don't know." Yet most people are unaware, and if they wanted to find out wouldn't even get to where I am.

It's not that hard to find, crazy right-wing conspiracy theorists are all over youtube.

 

[Screamer_2]

It's not that hard to find, crazy right-wing conspiracy theorists are all over youtube.

How do I judge the line between crazy right-wing and someone that just is not approved narrative? While I have some ability, how do I know I am not mistaken?

Look at how hard people have at drawing the line between a truly transphobic person, versus someone who says, "biological sex still exists as it's own identity outside of gender expression." Apparently, that is a distinction many can't see or understand.