Is the idea of society going "peak trans" just a cope?

[JamusActimus]

Op seems to be a retarded fag but the amount of vitriol towards trans people has clearly increased on the farms compared to a few years ago.

 

[fakemon]

No, wanting to fuck the same gender is faaar from wanting to cut off your genitalia and say you’re the other gender. It is just plain body dysmorphia.

I do give you this though. Wanting to fuck men as a man, is a woman-trait. Which is proven with MRE scans of the brain. Basically, the brain structure is more alike to a heterosexual woman than a heterosexual man. That doesn't mean it has anything to do with transgenderism, as that's a whole another chapter for itself. Which could be more researched on, but won't. Because that's "transphobia".

right. we actually agree. interesting thing about the brain scans btw.

my point is (a later post explains this) that a man wanting to fuck men is a woman-trait. That IS transgender.

wanting to butcher your genitals is NOT transgender. It's mental illness.

our language is so fucked up on the subject that obvious truths are missed.

There are VERY rare exceptions related to androgen insensitivity and similar, but they're so rare that they don't relate to the elephant in the room which is that almost all 'trannies' are not transgender, they're just fucking mental, and that people who have actual transgender traits (e.g. faggots, bearded women, etc.) do not actually SEE themselves as transgender. Even though they actually are, to a greater or lesser extent.

 

[fakemon]

Op seems to be a retarded fag but the amount of vitriol towards trans people has clearly increased on the farms compared to a few years ago.

the vitriol has just evolved. matured, you could say.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

True, because they had to get the idea that the engagement will give them some form of pleasure. Because if they never have had any exposure for it, they would never have the idea to engage in it in the first place.

Plus, I think many people resort to more extreme sexual practices because of an overexposure to dopamine and other chemicals.

Vanilla heterosexuality seems boring to certain people, especially children who care too damn much about fitting in or "being cool." What with the crab-in-the-bucket scenario often created for them by LGBTQ activists and groups.

the vitriol has just evolved. matured, you could say.

Plus many of us have given up on the idea of, "We're not hating on him because he's trans, but because he's a crappy person!" as a means of avoiding accusations of being transphobic.

Nope, all troons are mentally ill degenerates who need to be forcibly cured, because they sure as hell won't seek proper help on their own, rather than enablers.

Now we realize that being "transphobic" is a virtue. If you're not deeply disgusted by troonism, you either have no idea what the fuck is going on, or there's something deeply wrong with you.

 

[fakemon]

I live in a red state, and I have to deal with a troon inlaw and multiple childhood friends being a bunch of girlcock sucking faggots.

be tolerant. they wear their armbands voluntarily which is to your advantage.

 

[disavow]

It's a possibility. Society does not always march lockstep to the left and to the more degenerate. NAMBLA and various pro-pedo European intellectuals were way more mainstream in gay rights and even particular left wing movements of the 70s than pedo advocacy is today. There's a massive problem with sexualization of children, but outright overt pedo shit got beaten back. So too can troon shit especially when it effects kids and that's where they're putting their biggest efforts.

 

[fakemon]

Vanilla heterosexuality seems boring to certain people, especially children who care too damn much about fitting in or "being cool."

what children have you been stalking? why are you stalking children to see if they're faggots?

do you actually molest or just groom?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It's a possibility. Society does not always march lockstep to the left and to the more degenerate. NAMBLA and various pro-pedo European intellectuals were way more mainstream in gay rights and even particular left wing movements of the 70s than pedo advocacy is today. There's a massive problem with sexualization of children, but outright overt pedo shit got beaten back. So too can troon shit especially when it effects kids and that's where they're putting their biggest efforts.

Plus I think OP might be blackpilled because of the disappointing midterms. Due in part to possible Democrat cheating, but also due to the Republicans being overconfident and thinking they can have ANYONE run against the democrats and still win in this environment.

There's massive amounts of disillusionment and anger towards the regressive left, and Troons in particular are still getting their shit kicked in regardless of how poorly the midterms went. I suspect even the faggot rights movement will be forced to disavow troonism and other movements to legitimize bodily identity disorders.

It'll buy time, but it's still good to be prepared for the inevitable collapse.

 

[fakemon]

It's a possibility. Society does not always march lockstep to the left and to the more degenerate. NAMBLA and various pro-pedo European intellectuals were way more mainstream in gay rights and even particular left wing movements of the 70s than pedo advocacy is today. There's a massive problem with sexualization of children, but outright overt pedo shit got beaten back. So too can troon shit especially when it effects kids and that's where they're putting their biggest efforts.

nigger.

why do you consider 'pro-pedo' intellectual? what kind of mind fails to see that oxymoron?

and what do you think mainstream media has been doing to kids? listen to some lyrics, watch some videos. how many parents give a shit about this?

why do you not give a shit about this? are you a troon chasing pedo? that's where your mind seems to be lmao

 

[AgendaPoster]

peak trans is just a TERFy euphemism for "being redpilled" on the troon question.
Society is too retarded to be peak anything, most people will believe what the science (i.e. the authorities) tell them to. GenX and earlier that were educated based on biological sex are getting old and will be obsolete. All that will remain will be zoomers and worse biomass that has been grown on gender and fluidity.
If you want "peak trans" to be real, we need to take back the Means of Academia and purge pink hairs from anything medicine and science related. Gulag as needed.

 

[ITK]

Sounds a lot to me like expecting society to magically turn one day, although maybe that's not what the term means. If you want to change the cultural zeitgeist against all odds, though, you will have to agitate. To change the hearts and minds of the people around you. To organize and create preasure. And, this I think is especially important, to create institutions that are explicitly trans-exclusionary and combatant to trans ideology, whether this be in the churches or in your lesbian knitting clubs. Maybe you'll fail, but you have no other choice, because I highly doubt society will peak on its own.

 

[Vingle]

that a man wanting to fuck men is a woman-trait. That IS transgender.

No, it is the same category as men wanting to wear makeup. Would you say the band KISS is full of troons?

people who have actual transgender traits (e.g. faggots, bearded women, etc.) do not actually SEE themselves as transgender. Even though they actually are, to a greater or lesser extent.

Women get beards because of problems with their hormone levels, a healthy woman do not grow a beard. Cannot really explain the thing with fags, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with hormone levels or some shit in the womb.

many of us have given up on the idea of, "We're not hating on him because he's trans, but because he's a crappy person!" as a means of avoiding accusations of being transphobic.

Fags are guilty of this too. Most of them absolutely despise any form of criticism against their culture/cult and scream homophobia. Heck, some in the LGB thread here hate my guts even though I'm a fellow kiwi fag.

 

[fakemon]

No, it is the same category as men wanting to wear makeup. Would you say the band KISS is full of troons?

Women get beards because of problems with their hormone levels, a healthy woman do not grow a beard. Cannot really explain the thing with fags, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with hormone levels or some shit in the womb.

men wanting to wear makeup has nothing whatsoever to do with anything 'trans', which is part of the point i was making. it's sometimes a manifestation of mental illness, it's sometimes theatrical, but it's not a trans trait. Unlike wanting to suck dick and getting horny for men. That's a pretty fucking trans trait.

A beard on a woman because of masculine hormone levels or hormone sensitivity is a trans-trait. We're in agreement on the important stuff, you're just hung up on the language of the insane. Troons and TERFs use language to confuse the subject for their own agendas.

 

[Pillar of Autism]

I don't think there is going to be a true "peak trans" moment anytime in the near future (as much as I wish we would), but I think we are gonna have a point where less and less people are going to listen to the troons' impotent REEE-ing. Eventually people will just kinda stop caring.

Unfortunately, I think that, much like the gays were superceded by the troons, the troons will get overshadowed by something else. As the old saying goes, "There's always a bigger fish"

 

[Mothra1988]

I don't think anyone in the thread so far quite gets it. Like 80-90 percent of the trans and weird gender shit is a literal fashion trend. If it was all legitimate, we wouldn't be having a literal bandwagon phase where people think they're minorities just for dying their hair pink. I would contrast this against actual gays and lesbians and maybe a smaller subset of people who do in fact have gender dysphoria or would have chosen to be trannies if it weren't popular.

Since most of this is a weird new-age fashion trend that has adapted things like body disfigurement, hormone use, whatever, the tides can change quite quickly with the younger generations abandoning it whole-sale. This hasn't happened yet of course, but I'm sure it will come at some point.

However, separating it from other trends like the hippies or whatever, there will be a stagnant contingent of older troons who bought too much into it to change course to adapt to the new trend (because they fucked up their bodies permanently). They will stay around annoying people for quite some time, but it won't be the social force it is now.

There will also be a contingent of buyer's remorse especially among former "trans-kids" which will lead to lawsuits. These lawsuits will have a chilling effect on the forces that control mainstream culture.

While the left can try to keep a cap on the backlash, I don't think they will be able to completely. While there will always be trannies, you will see a point where trannies go back to being tranies like they were in the 90's or the mid-2000's or whatever without it being a wider fashion trend with the youth. The shit is just too cringey to survive forever imo. While cringe can be popular for many years in pop-culture, eventually it burns itself out and stops being cool. Think about, for example, how Nirvana suddenly killed hair metal and corny 80's/90's pop acts like Vanilla Ice.

 

[LillWeeb]

Every leftist liberal leaning real woman. Which describes the majority of women.

What are these "cis women" you speak of?

 

[Vingle]

you're just hung up on the language of the insane

Words is a matter of life and death.

 

[disavow]

Op seems to be a retarded fag but the amount of vitriol towards trans people has clearly increased on the farms compared to a few years ago.

Devil's advocate, the meme right got huge on here circa 2016 and look how well that turned out for them. Farms hating troons is based but hardly an indicator of where the wind is blowing.

nigger.

why do you consider 'pro-pedo' intellectual? what kind of mind fails to see that oxymoron?

and what do you think mainstream media has been doing to kids? listen to some lyrics, watch some videos. how many parents give a shit about this?

why do you not give a shit about this? are you a troon chasing pedo? that's where your mind seems to be lmao

Are you drunk or just actually this retarded?

 

[EverlyB]

The interesting thing is that if society reaches peak trans, how will they turn around and blame those of us who knew or were concerned?

It will somehow be our oppression that forced kids to get sterilised and mutilated for not accepting them.

Look to "pandemic amnesty" as a model.

Individuals may change their mind and tell troontroothers "I forgive you," but the institutions that back down will only say, "Please forgive us." They'll deny that they ever went so far ("We never wanted to give minors mastectomies! We never said detransitioning was rare! We never said any kid who wanted to transition should do so!") and still hold animosity toward the other side ("We were just doing the best we could with what we knew at the time, but you were only against it this whole time because you were transphobic").

I'm sure that like there are still public maskers, there will still be people who insist on respecting everyone's self-chosen pronouns. But most of the trendy theyfabs will just quietly take the pronouns out of their bios, let their hair grow out in its natural color, dress like an adult woman, and let everyone simply call them she. They'll be much more at peace, too, realizing the gender phase just created more problems than it solved. The medical transitioners will be more stubborn due to the sunken costs, but at least they'll give up on trying to fix "transphobes" and just accept that not everyone will accept them.

 

[Screamer_2]

But most of the trendy theyfabs will just quietly take the pronouns out of their bios,

They'll probably declare announcing pronouns as harmful. Or maybe not, I am just waiting for so much of this stuff to come around on itself and it's taking so long.

"Why announcing your pronouns is harmful to those questioning their identity."