Is the idea of society going "peak trans" just a cope?

I think the whole tranny shit is just what "terminally online" people argue about. Im in a pretty blue state and have yet to have anyone IRL bring up tranny issues.

I live in a red state, and I have to deal with a troon inlaw and multiple childhood friends being a bunch of girlcock sucking faggots.
 
I think the real problem is the fact that normies are politically apathetic. Conservatives are as well.

When you poll people, what you find is that even without the "peak trans" event(s), trangender ideology is still immensely unpopular. The troon movement, the left in general, could only get as far as it has by marching through the institutions, under the cover of dark, and ridiculing anyone anyone who points it out. Especially by asking, "Why do you care so much?" because humans are wired to not give a shit about what goes on in the world until it affects them directly.

The sad thing is, by that time, it's often too late. And even when it's not too late, the resulting battle is far more difficult than it needed to be.

The other advantage that the left has is that they don't have a life beyond sociopolitical activism. Thus they can keep the pressure on, and never let up, even when people are ready to kick their shit in. They've got nothing else going for them, so they can afford to turn themselves into social martyrs.

Hell, the word "progressivism," implies that they are completely, single-mindedly devoted to the cause of "progress" for the sake of "progress," which is a nice way of saying "entropy," or "societal decay." There is absolutely no end goal in sight, so they will never, EVER stop. Time and time again, whenever they display any sort of standards or limits at all, it's always for the sake of optics, as their most fringe beliefs will always become mainstream given time. Whether that be sexualization of children (as stated by Gayle Rubin in the 80s) or the normalization of trooning kids out (even some troons would criticize Assigned Male or QKS back in the mid 10s, those voices are silent now).

Conservatives and normies, on the other hand, do have a (somewhat) defined goal in mind, and are content to stop (or slow down) when they think the momentum is going in their favor. Plus unlike spoiled rich leftists with nothing better to do, they have a life. They have themselves and their families and other loved ones to take care of. There's a hierarchy of needs, those things come before politics. Spoiled leftists already have those needs filled by their parents or by the government, so they can afford to devote their excessive amounts of free time to political activism.

What leftists are good at is manufacturing "consensus." They use emotional manipulation to trick people into believing that they are alone in their beliefs, that they're behind in the times, that they're "dinosaurs" or "time traveling barbarians."

For example:

Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen said:
There's a naive notion among folks in general—especially among gays—that you can argue a person out of a prejudice (such as homohatred) by overwhelming him with facts and logic about the group he hates. This is untrue....

Logically speaking, nothing whatever is either disgusting or sinful, except as one feels it to be so...

...if we're going to enter into arguments with [those who disagree with us] we'd better have a strong emotional appeal in our back pocket.

...it gets a little tiresome to keep seeing and hearing [gays who]... damn all proposals as politically incorrect to precisely the degree that they rely upon cunning manipulation rather than pugnacity....

...thus, propagandistic advertising can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths...who are 'not Christian.' It can show them being criticized, hated, shunned. It can depict gays experiencing horrific suffering as the direct result of homohatred—suffering of which even most bigots would be ashamed to be the cause....Note that the bigot need not actually be made to believe that he is such a heinous creature, that others will now despise him, and that he has been the immoral agent of suffering....Rather, our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof....

...The objection will be raised...that we would 'Uncle Tommify' the gay community; that we are exchanging one false sterotype for another equally false; that our ads are lies; that that is not how all gays actually look; that gays know it, and bigots know it. Yes of course—we know it, too. But it makes no difference that the ads are lies; not to us, because we're using them to ethically good effect, to counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies, and far more wicked ones....

From: After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's (Plume, 1990)


Considering that this book was published in the 90s, it correlates perfectly when the LGBT community was forced to distance itself from organizations like NAMBLA in order to save face and gain mainstream support. They had to sell the lie that there wasn't a strong correlation between homosexuality and other degenerate practices like pedophilia. They had to sell the lie that gays weren't promiscuous sex fiends, that AIDS is an equal opportunity virus that can affect anyone and not just drug users and sex fiends with horrible impulse control, and that we're evil and wrong for excluding gays from the institution of marriage.
 
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Every time some man in a bad wig wins a women's sporting event, or a contest, or an election, or a scholarship, every time a female is assaulted, or has her privacy violated, someone new becomes aware of the problem. Someone new begins to resent, and maybe even hate. I've had complete strangers speak to me about this on a dozen occasions, and not one of them was anything but disgusted and angry. Yes, "peak trans" is real, unlike "trans", which isn't remotely possible. They will be pushed back. It's already happening.
 
Every time some man in a bad wig wins a women's sporting event, or a contest, or an election, or a scholarship, every time a female is assaulted, or has her privacy violated, someone new becomes aware of the problem. Someone new begins to resent, and maybe even hate. I've had complete strangers speak to me about this on a dozen occasions, and not one of them was anything but disgusted and angry. Yes, "peak trans" is real, unlike "trans", which isn't remotely possible. They will be pushed back. It's already happening.

Troonism relies on ignorance and apathy in order to flourish. People don't give a shit about mentally ill people people destroying themselves until they realize that said mentally people will always, ALWAYS try to tear everyone else down with them.

All you need to do is to give the normies a reason to care.
 
I totally agree it would be a more terf cope. Lurking on Ovarit out of boredom when the farms where down , I learned the terfs have this strange world view that almost women are against tranny stuff, and it's all men secretly pushing for it to destroy women's spaces. But from my experience and I think most others on this site, know that IT HAS BEEN CIS WOMAN WHO OVERWHELMING SUPPORT TROONS in the past decade whether sympathetically to the idea of a hypothetical tranny on paper or a staunch defender. Can't tell you how many woman I know in IRL and seen on social media post trans rights are human rights. While almost every straight man I know hate troons. So terfs are in complete denial about who supports who.
What are these "cis women" you speak of?
 
terfs don't really know shit. how could they, they're women.

any man who is sexually attracted to a man is, at least partially, transgender because HE exhibits a FEMALE trait (of being attracted to men).

it's as simple as that. trannies try to confuse the issue. faggots try to confuse the issue. terfs try to confuse the issue. i bring you clarification.

everything makes sense when you think in terms of MEN having FEMALE traits (or delusions of femininity). 'homosexual' just means partially transgender.

Majority of "trans women" today are heterosexual men .
 
Majority of "trans women" today are heterosexual men .
correct - or even just "men".

language gymnastics has tied us in knots. 'trans' gender is meaningless to the point of absurdity.

people can only have transgender traits.

a woman who naturally has a beard undeniably has a masculine trait.

a man who naturally has actual (not fat cunt) boobs undeniably has a feminine trait.

most people who declare themselves "transgender" are not actually transgender.

anyone who needs surgery or hormones for their "transgender" traits is just mentally ill.
 
I'll agree with everyone who says that "peak trans" is a cope. You'll definitely see more and more people getting tranny fatigue, but other than that, Mr. Bones' Wild Ride doesn't end. And as I said in other threads, the trannies running amok is merely a natural conclusion of a society that values equality above everything else, even above reality.
 
all homosexuals are mentally ill and that homosexuality in humans is a result of deep trauma, I highly doubt the same will happen with trannies, as much as I would like for it to happen.
Most yes, but not all. I didn't get sexually assaulted as a child, so I can't say what this trauma is.
I assert that faggotry is just a strand of transgenderism. It always was. It's obviously a man who wants to live sexually as a woman. He may want to present effeminate, or he may not, but the fact is he wants to fuck men, as is normal for women. He is a partial-transgender or a partroon.
No, wanting to fuck the same gender is faaar from wanting to cut off your genitalia and say you’re the other gender. It is just plain body dysmorphia.

I do give you this though. Wanting to fuck men as a man, is a woman-trait. Which is proven with MRE scans of the brain. Basically, the brain structure is more alike to a heterosexual woman than a heterosexual man. That doesn't mean it has anything to do with transgenderism, as that's a whole another chapter for itself. Which could be more researched on, but won't. Because that's "transphobia".
terfs don't really know shit. how could they, they're women.
Wrong, incel. They don't know shit because they're irrational because of they're radicalised. In the same way you’re radicalised about women.
any man who is sexually attracted to a man is, at least partially, transgender because HE exhibits a FEMALE trait (of being attracted to men).
No, and being transgender isn't real. Get over yourself.
homosexuality actually IS a choice and it isn't unfair to discriminate against those who engage in it.
Usually I agree with you, but this one is a bit weird.
Would you say you chose to be heterosexual? Do pedophiles choose a sexuality they know gets them in big trouble, if they try to engage in it?
It's a choice to engage in it, that's not the part that sounds a bit iffy.

About the troons who gets groomed to take the troonshine on Discord. They were manipulated into thinking they were troons, and are victims.

Majority of "trans women" today are heterosexual men .
The incel to troon pipeline isn't far between.
a woman who naturally has a beard undeniably has a masculine trait.
Hormone issues because of overweight usually. Beard is a masculine trait yes, but transgender not really. It's a medicinal one.
a man who naturally has actual (not fat cunt) boobs undeniably has a feminine trait.
Same as above.
 
Would you say you chose to be heterosexual? Do pedophiles choose a sexuality they know gets them in big trouble, if they try to engage in it?
It's a choice to engage in it, that's not the part that sounds a bit iffy.

It's a choice to engage in it. And even if a tendency towards such awful behaviors is not a choice, it's made, not born. No one is born that way. No one.
 
I think any real hope of a pendulum swing died when most social media sites and corporations decided to join in on the suppression of opposing views. Wokeness is going to continue to become more extreme, more unpopular, and the means to suppress dissent is going to keep going more extreme to match.

Even today on KF you have lots of people who either support the left and therefore woke, or who otherwise don't care.

Even if woke transsexuals loose their popularity another woke group will just take that spot.
 
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It's a choice to engage in it. And even if a tendency towards such awful behaviors is not a choice, it's made, not born. No one is born that way. No one.
True, because they had to get the idea that the engagement will give them some form of pleasure. Because if they never have had any exposure for it, they would never have the idea to engage in it in the first place.
 
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