Is Windows 11 worth it?

[Kiwi & Cow]

I hate how Win 10 came out in a broken state with shit updates that brick the PC/Laptop and with plentiful of spywares running amok including keyloggers and other shits like that.

Is Windows 11 (albeit possibly crappy in its own ways) atleast (slightly) better than Windsows 10 or is it an even bigger turd worth avoiding like a plague? I already had to buy a new laptop with 10 preinstalled and I'm going to keep it for as long as possible if it means I won't have to deal with 11's bullshit.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

It’s even worse than Windows 10, just debloat 10 or install Linux

 

[DiggieSmalls]

I don't think windows is ever worth it.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

I'm still running Windows 7 on my home PC. At some point I'll probably switch to Linux...

 

[Ass Sniffer]

No.

 

[Dork Of Ages]

If you want some basic semblance of privacy by having a local account only, Microsoft plans to fully remove that in 11 now. Both Home and Pro editions will demand internet connectivity and a Microsoft account during install. Hopefully people will figure out how to debloat that particular cancer by the time I MIGHT install 11, but at that point I will probably fully move to Linux and maybe figure out how to make a gaming Windows VM by then (hell, pure Linux gaming might actually have parity with Windows too, so who the fuck knows. Regardless, you can survive using a OS in current year without it being Microsoft).

 

[Absolutego]

It's awful. Avoid it at all costs. Unless you have a micro tablet that you're running it on, it's an objective downgrade from Windows 10 because of the stupid design decisions done to save memory cycles. The context menu is a disjointed mess of some common functions being remapped to titleless icons, some having an icon AND a title, and some just having titles like the old menu. The rename file keyboard shortcut went from "select, then F2" to "select, then shift+f10, but if you have the wrong keyboard, probably select, FN+shift+f10".

Half of Microsoft's own tools don't work very well with it. Outlook is a nightmare. I keep getting disconnected from Teams calls. Azure's CLI throws a tantrum if you try to run it natively instead of using Edge's browser version. The only positive thing I can say is it does a great job integrating your VPN client into the resource tab, so long as it's a Microsoft VPN, of course.

I have every intention of asking the local IT guy to downrev me to 10 once I finish this week's project. It's a fucking mess.

 

[Drkinferno72]

You’re better off going Linux or going home

 

[Pee Cola]

Windows 11 glows so brightly, it can be seen from space.

Windows 10 LTSC is the tits. It's the least pozzed Windows out there, as long as you're OK with setting sail on the high seas to obtain a copy. Null gave it a good rap in the most recent MATI stream, and I've been using it for the last couple of years without any hassles. I couldn't go back to retail Windows 10.

As an added bonus, LTSC is supported until 2029.

 

[Deluxe]

Win 10 LTSC is great. The only thing it can't do is the Microsoft Store, so no Xbox Game Pass and some newer peripherals require drivers that you can only get at the MS store like Razer garbage.

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

Linux is the best it's ever been and there are tons of tools that are currently in development and far enough along to make it worth using as your main. I even dropped my dual boot after a while. Gaming is perfectly fine for the most part, and even shit like New World with EAC works now (not that you'd play it). Big games are finally getting EAC Linux support.

If gaming is important to you, don't be run off by people claiming tons of games don't work. Some will require tinkering, some will be perfect out of the box, and only big, bloated, stupid multiplayer zoomer games won't work despite it being a simple box tick for the devs to enable anti-cheat now.

As for everything else, there's a solution for everything, and testing out various programs to see what clicks for you is part of the fun for me. After about a year of straight daily use, I'll never go back.

If you like computers at all, it's worth learning, and people that struggle just aren't as good at using PCs as they think they are.

Windows 11 glows so brightly, it can be seen from space.

Windows 10 LTSC is the tits. It's the least pozzed Windows out there, as long as you're OK with setting sail on the high seas to obtain a copy. Null gave it a good rap in the most recent MATI stream, and I've been using it for the last couple of years without any hassles. I couldn't go back to retail Windows 10.

As an added bonus, LTSC is supported until 2029.

If you have to use Windows, this is the best option, though I had some issues with the newest release when I was still dual booting. It's still the least bloated, while still being too bloated, version of Windows you can get.

 

[TheBest]

When we ship out or install new computers, we have to decline the windows 11 upgrade they try to sneak in when we go through the install process because dealing with 11 is just not worth it. We even have to press to customers NOT to upgrade to 11 because we don’t support it and because it just flat out sucks.

 

[awoo]

Windows is a piece of shit

 

[glib]

I only have Windows 10 because of unsupported linux programs like Ableton Live, and Adobe. Otherwise I use linux, and it is so much more satisfying. Gonna look into that LTSC soon.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Windows 10 is a better bet, unless you have a system built on a 12th gen processor or one of the latest AMD offerings. Those processors are only designed to work with Windows 11. If you try to use Windows 10, the processor will be 1/2 crippled.

I believe Windows 10 not being EOL is the only thing preventing Microsoft from flipping the switch on their pet project "Pluton" and trying to act as the gatekeeper of Windows 11 and all the software on it. Once Windows 10 is EOL, and enough systems are on processors that require Windows 11 to function correctly, they will flip the switch.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Windows 11 glows so brightly, it can be seen from space.

Windows 10 LTSC is the tits. It's the least pozzed Windows out there, as long as you're OK with setting sail on the high seas to obtain a copy. Null gave it a good rap in the most recent MATI stream, and I've been using it for the last couple of years without any hassles. I couldn't go back to retail Windows 10.

As an added bonus, LTSC is supported until 2029.

Win 10 LTSC is great. The only thing it can't do is the Microsoft Store, so no Xbox Game Pass and some newer peripherals require drivers that you can only get at the MS store like Razer garbage.

I heard that on the podcast too. Wanted to look into it, but I've never pirated anything other than anime for maybe a decade now, so I'm completely out of the loop of what high seas sites and practices are, and it's not something I can just ask without looking like I glow brighter than Win 11.

How LTSC works for games? I plan on building a new PC this year. I'm only using windows for VR games (they're awful on Linux. Valve might change that in future) and one bit of niche software that doesn't natively support Linux.


Didn't MS accidentally push a Win 11 update early for in OS ads that they rolled back? I remember seeing that on YouTube and thought it was too dumb to be true.

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

I heard that on the podcast too. Wanted to look into it, but I've never pirated anything other than anime for maybe a decade now, so I'm completely out of the loop of what high seas sites and practices are, and it's not something I can just ask without looking like I glow brighter than Win 11.

How LTSC works for games? I plan on building a new PC this year. I'm only using windows for VR games (they're awful on Linux. Valve might change that in future) and one bit of niche software that doesn't natively support Linux.


Didn't MS accidentally push a Win 11 update early for in OS ads that they rolled back? I remember seeing that on YouTube and thought it was too dumb to be true.

Piracy is easier now than it's been, ever, yet most younger people do it far, far less than I did in my teens. Usenet has been my go to for over a decade, but people complain about "paying to pirate", though it's 4 bucks a month for basically everything I could ever want.

LTSC is fine for games; you don't miss out on anything with the newest version. It has raytracing, which older LTSC versions didn't. That said, I upgraded to it from the older version of LTSC and got BSOD that I never did before, and wound up saying fuck it after one too many crashes that I never got on Linux.

LTSC is basically just stripped down W10 with oddities. It'll try to enable certain things, like the Xbox bar, that don't even exist within the system, and the MS store doesn't exist, yet it tries to download things like the Xbox bar for you, then spits an error. It's... weird.

Also, oddly, I had more issues with certain things on LTSC than actual W10. MSI Afterburner for instance will just not display on some games in LTSC, but it has no issue detecting them on standard Windows.

Even though piracy is easier now than ever before, getting LTSC that hasn't been manhandled by some pajeet "scene" group can be a real fucking pain. The NZB hosting site I use for Usenet had it, thankfully. That might take a bit of searching. If you're lucky, you'll find a DDL link on Reddit's LTSC sub before the mods cuck and remove it again, but they're so shit over there it's unlikely now.

 

[Pickle Dick]

Windows 11 killed off support for tons of older computers for no good reason. That should tell you how good Windows 11 is. Other than that, its basically Windows 10 with a glossier interface, not much real changes made to it. It's like Windows Vista, but with even less redeeming qualities.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

One thing you can do to get a proper copy of Windows 10 LTSC is ask your IT people at work if your organization supports the practice of giving license keys to employees. Certain types of Microsoft enterprise subscriptions actually come with a bunch of keys that are intended to be given to employees of the organization. It's a type of Microsoft "fringe benefit" for being a customer. It can involve keys for Windows 10, Microsoft Office, etc... just about any piece of Microsoft software. It just depends on the type of subscription your company has with Microsoft. It's meant to make it easier for employees to use Microsoft products at home (Microsoft also doesn't want you using other products at home. they want you to stay within the Windows ecosystem at all times. They figure giving out free software will do that, and as a general rule, they aren't wrong).

I can say from 1st hand experience, most IT people either use them for their own stuff, give it out to their family/friends, or sell them for people to buy cheap on the gray market. They would likely be very surprised anyone outside of IT knows about them. I guarantee if your organization has free keys to give out, they will give you what you want and tell you not to mention it to anyone else.

One thing you want to do once you have a fully functional copy of Windows 10 LTSC is to backup the activation. Because Windows 10 LTSC uses the VLK feature it doesn't function like a typical version of Windows, it uses VAMT so the IT department can activate a bunch of machines at once with the same key. As such, if you re-install Windows, and it can't contact the organization server, it won't activate properly. But, if you back up your activation, you can restore it fairly easily, and it will never need to contact the server again.

 

[Deluxe]

Don't buy a LTSC key from the grey market. It's never worth it and there's the risk of getting a expired key. Cracking the key is the easiest part of the process.

This is a decent guide for dummies on how to obtain LTSC. There is a mega link with an iso but I can't tell you if it's legit or not without finding the correct checksum first. As far as I know, only the 2019 LTSC has a legit ISO so go with that just to be safe. You can update later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/guides/win10upgrade_activation#wiki_windows_10.2Fltsb.2Fltsc_installation_and_activation

Always install a legit untampered ISO (not the "Evaluation" version) and then crack it yourself using MAS. MAS is a open source tool to activate Windows. It works the best and is recommended over other methods.

GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts: A Windows and Office activator using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods, with a focus on open-source code and fewer antivirus detections.

A Windows and Office activator using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods, with a focus on open-source code and fewer antivirus detections. - GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Script...

github.com

Do not install tampered isos such as {Gen2} releases. There is no reason to take a risk and install these releases when cracking activation yourself is so easy.