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As individuals, they're about as terrifying as bowl of jelly.

Their actions though, Bella specifically, are downright horrifying.
From all the train wrecks I've seen in my time, I came away with the impression that the most dangerous people are the ones that are as terrifying as a bow of jelly. You don't need to be specops to shoot up a local Walmart. You don't need to lift to stick a shiv between someones rips. And you most certainly don't need to be a cunning master manipulator to fuck with CWC and do harassment campaigns against fellow students. All it takes is being an immoral piece of shit without any human decency.

These people glorify the capacity to be dangerous. Being seen as someone who could destroy people in over 700 different ways and that's just with their bare hands. Or being a master hacker/troll. And that's what I think is dangerous. They're losers without any of the skills they glorify, but with all the need in the world to prove they're indeed that powerful. Of course it's a severely fucked perspective. They don't understand that we all don't do the same horrible shit as they do not because we can't, but because we actually need proper reasons for it and don't glorify it.

But as I said "I came away with the impression". I'm not a proper psychologist, just an armchair one.
 
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Faggots.

there is one thing one this story i ain't getting though, she says she is transphobic and harrasses some trannies at the same time she forced some retard to drink estrogen because she wanted him to become a girl? really says much about her mental state...
 
>tortures animals
>drives people to suicide
>rapes women
>spies on roomates
>encourages autistic man to rape his mom
>drugs her friends
>falsifies IDs
>consumes and possibly produces actual child pornography

"muh tranpshobia!"


ETA: i definitely agree the protests are good, and im nt sayuing shes not awful to trans people since she most likely drove at least one to suicide. i just think its funny how its the one point that gets the focus. i hope its weens and not legit.

I don't imagine the school would be very supportive of their students actively naming and shaming the daughter of a possible donor; I could see them attempting to shut that shit down pretty hard. They have already shown they want to cover up the Isabella stuff in relation to them, so what's threatening to boot a student or two out who arranges a rally against said individual?

Not to mention the students who may not even be aware of the situation with Isabella (bare in mind Isabella's nowhere near as big of public knowledge as Chris raping his mother) won't understand how any of the above points are something for them to rally over; Hand them a generic problem like Transphobia on campus, though? EZ rally, EZ life.

That or I'm just wearing a tinfoil hat.
 
Holy shit, she has Ethan Ralph and Dick Masterson by the balls. She is in contact with both camps and has them simping for her like she is the hero of the story. They suggest KF made this up because she exposed the incest and we are mad at her taking away our cow.

It is a typical war time strategy to have the enemies of your enemy do your heavy lifting. Josh mentioned in the stream that he thinks they want to fuck her and that is why they are bending over backwards to help get her side out.

She hasn't appeared live on either of their shows but is in contact with them throughout their streams. Ralph had commiedickgurl on and instead of a discussion, was just plain rude.
 
Holy shit, she has Ethan Ralph and Dick Masterson by the balls. She is in contact with both camps and has them simping for her like she is the hero of the story. They suggest KF made this up because she exposed the incest and we are mad at her taking away our cow.

It is a typical war time strategy to have the enemies of your enemy do your heavy lifting. Josh mentioned in the stream that he thinks they want to fuck her and that is why they are bending over backwards to help get her side out.

She hasn't appeared live on either of their shows but is in contact with them throughout their streams. Ralph had commiedickgurl on and instead of a discussion, was just plain rude.
They're confirmed to be in contact?

I sense a milk filled interview soon
 
Holy shit, she has Ethan Ralph and Dick Masterson by the balls. She is in contact with both camps and has them simping for her like she is the hero of the story. They suggest KF made this up because she exposed the incest and we are mad at her taking away our cow.

It is a typical war time strategy to have the enemies of your enemy do your heavy lifting. Josh mentioned in the stream that he thinks they want to fuck her and that is why they are bending over backwards to help get her side out.

She hasn't appeared live on either of their shows but is in contact with them throughout their streams. Ralph had commiedickgurl on and instead of a discussion, was just plain rude.
I don't think she realizes that an obvious grift is probably not where she wants to go at this point, or she's just so desperate she's abandoned the more neutral big name youtubers and is just going with whoever will take her, which is great. Lots of milk indeed
 
I didn't know lesbians bragged about having sex with men.
mostly to hurt their partner. i don't know if it's as true now, but historically in the lgbtqomgwtfbbqmap community there's been a little bit of friction between homosexual men/women and bisexual men and women. the implication is that they are unable to provide what their partner really wants
 
mostly to hurt their partner. i don't know if it's as true now, but historically in the lgbtqomgwtfbbqmap community there's been a little bit of friction between homosexual men/women and bisexual men and women. the implication is that they are unable to provide what their partner really wants

Huh, the more you know!

But wasn't she bragging about this to friends, not her partner? Or am I misremembering that?
 
I'm collecting the mini-profiling I've done for Bella here, hidden behind spoilers for length, and for content. If this is neither helpful nor appropriate, feel free to delete; it may be viewed as being more appropriate for the Speculation thread.

It bears saying that although Bella is a pathological liar, even pathological liars sometimes tell the truth, and that most of this can be determined from the combination of Bella's statements and Bella's behavior.

(Bella and her father's) relationship is wildly inappropriate for a parent and child. She has said that her father uses drugs in front of her, possibly with her. She has said that her father has watched porn with her - I believe how she phrased it was showing porn to her, with makes it of his own volition and very intentional (and I don't think she's smart enough to even think about something like that.) She has said that her father has told her about his sexual conquests. (And we know for a fact that her father has told her about seemingly every war crime he was involved with.) (ADDENDUM: Bella has further claimed that her father attempted to "hook her up" with a 50-year-old woman.)

On their own, these would be deeply fucked up. It's in conjunction with everything else that they're horrifying.

She displays hypersexualization. She has a paraphilia for incest, but she seemed to be legitimately disgusted and outraged once incest was actually taking place. (ADDENDUM: I am no longer sure that this is the case; it has since been revealed that she and her cohorts spent an entire week making memes about Chris assaulting his mother.) She has several paraphilias involving waste, and very intentionally neglects her hygiene to a level that's unheard of outside the severely mentally ill. She doesn't shower, she soils herself and doesn't clean, etc, etc. She alleges to have engaged in coprophagy. I strongly suspect that she self-harms, based on photos I've seen, but can't recall if this was confirmed. She abuses animal, and is manipulative and violent towards other people. (ADDENDUM: Bella displays a significant sexual interest in pre-pubescent children, and has claimed to have sexually assaulted several girls her in her own age range.)

Minus the shit-eating, I have known plenty of girls like that. You don't just wake up like that one day. Without exception, every one of those girls was abused, sexually, by a parent. I know that everyone likes to believe some people are just Bad Seeds, and while they do happen, what you usually learn about 'Bad Seeds' is that all the awful shit just happened behind closed doors in a family with a great reputation and even better damage control.

It's a kind of abuse that's more common than anyone is willing to admit. Generally - to be blunt and callous about it - generally, 'you' end up one of a few different ways: asexual because you reject that aspect of yourself altogether, reflexively gay based more on hate for sex X than attraction to sex Y, hypersexualized because you perceive it as control of your sexuality (or, more depressingly, 'the only thing you're good for',) addicted to drugs, dealing with the trauma in a "healthy" way, suppressing the trauma entirely (and dealing with a whole host of other psychological problems that arise from that), dead, or the unfortunate standby, becoming an offender yourself.

But to end up with all the things present in Isabella, you don't just need abuse. You need extreme, open, continuous abuse. The girls I have known who displayed those sort of signs, are the worst abused people I've ever known. I mean some absolutely soul-killing, should've-buried-them-under-the-jail sorts of shit.

So, yes. Yes, I think he fucked his daughter. And I think that was just the start of it.
(Bella stating that her father is homophobic and transphobic) is very interesting, to me, and I think it might give some insight into her pathology. I think this is one of the big reasons that her targets of preference appear to be trans-identifying people. Strip away all of the paraphilias, all of the maladaptive coping mechanisms, the genuine psychopathy, all of that - and, potentially, even the actual, literal human shit. Get past all of that with a chisel and a power-washing, and, to my eye, this girl presents herself, when not trying to puff up, the way that you would expect from a butch lesbian who's on the road to identifying as trans-male.

Gender confusion is not uncommon in victims of childhood sexual abuse. I suspect that she wants to be male (if I remember correctly, this isn't even much of a supposition - I recollect that she's stated as much, in a roundabout way, that her desire is to be a white wife beater bull and beat women), and I suspect that this is rooted primarily in what it often is for victims of childhood sexual abuse, in the idea that, had they been another gender, what happened to them would not have happened. I suspect that, further, her father engrained in her the idea that women are inherently and innately inferior to men, and that his daughter, given all these things, subconsciously came to the conclusion that, to not be worthless, she has to be a man.*

And I suspect that Michael Janke's loathing for gay and trans-identifying people has been internalized, that she despises this aspect of herself, and that she projects it outward in her choice of victims.

*(I also believe she may have spoken of hormonal issues in one of the leaks, but I don't remember her being very detailed about it.) (ADDENDUM: Bella has claimed she used anabolic steroids while in high school, purportedly for the purpose of gaining an edge in competitive wrestling - I suspect it is far more likely that she took these with the intent of transitioning, and merely justifies them to herself and to others as cheating. She appears to have a very limited understanding of what transitioning involves, and of how it functions as a process - ie, she seemed to believe that giving small quantities of estrogen to one of her friends would quickly result in radical feminization.)
Both obsessive cleanliness and a total rejection of hygienic practices are not uncommon in victims of sexual abuse. These are two different coping mechanisms, the first, in my experience, more common in girls than the latter. The victim becomes obsessed with being clean because they want to wipe away all trace of what has been done to them and/or they believe themselves to have been tainted by the violation, or, the victim attempts to make themselves so objectionable to their victimizer that the abuse will stop. I think, some of the time at least, it comes down to if the victim rationalizes that they trigger their abuse by being "bad," or by being appealing to their abuser.

That said, I've never really known anyone who went from one to the other, and that's a short span of time for something like that to develop without another traumatic incident. If we were talking about a normal person that age, with that total a shift in hygiene, I would expect some fairly major mental illness starting to show. While Bella is the right age, I see no word salad and no other reason to believe she's exhibiting signs of schizophrenia or similar.

Since we have testimony from other people that Bella is not lying about being grotesque, my suspicion is that either,

1) She was lying about her obsession with cleanliness, or
2) While living with her father, he forced her to maintain her hygiene.

Given everything else, I am inclined to believe that 2 is the probable answer, and that Bella's hygiene only became what it is when she was no longer under her father's direct control. There is nothing about his girl that screams other than severe, long-term sexual abuse. This just does not happen after a single incident.
I have no real doubt that Bella is interested in child pornography. And let me be blunt: by that, I mean photographs and videos of real children.

In the past few years the way that people perceive the availability of material featuring the sexual exploitation of children has changed. It's gone from people believing it's something you can stumble across anywhere, to people believing that it's something esoteric, as if it were hidden knowledge only accessible in a Coptic monastery cut off from the outside world. But, read your local paper for long enough, and you will find a story about someone arrested on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography. And they won't be an elite hacker, they won't be an InfoSec expert, they'll be... some absolute schlub. A mechanic, a dentist, an office manager, a teacher, some boomer who probably needed help even hooking their computer up. If someone wants to find child pornography, they will find child pornography.

When that happens, it's never just one photograph. When these people are arrested, it's almost always that they have entire drives filled with tens of thousands of pictures and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of videos and streams. Remember Bella talking about her hard drives being full? Bella does not appear to be especially intelligent (if she were, we would not know every detail of her life) but she does possess knowledge that those absolute schlubs are lacking. Bella's collection would not be composed primarily of grainy scans from 50-year-old Scandinavian magazines. Bella's collection would more than likely contain things I am uncomfortable describing in even the most detached and clinical of terms.

To be frank, I suspect that, in addition to whatever else she has, Bella trades and sells pictures of herself as a child. Based on the logs, she has shown photographs of herself that even the people in that discord found to be objectionable, and described them in sexualized ways. I suspect that was her testing the waters before showing more extreme examples; I think she has blatantly sexualized, pornographic images of herself at a young age, and, unfortunately, it would not come as a shock to learn she has video material of herself at a young age.

(I want to stress that this does not obviate Bella's responsibility for her actions. This is not, 'Bella was abused, so really, she's the victim here.' She has been victimized - I don't consider it in doubt, at this point, there are too many flashing lights and she simply would not be knowledgeable enough to be familiar with all of them nor a good enough liar to consistently present them. However, her response to being a victim has been to herself become a victimizer. Because of that, I have no sympathy for Bella. I am merely familiar with her type of pathology.)
I believe that Bella is likely a psychopath, as per PCL-R. I strongly suspect that she was a victim of severe, long-lasting childhood sexual abuse, beginning in early childhood and lasting into her teenage years, possibly concluding only when she left for college; I find it revealing that, once outside of her father's authority, she transitions from obsessive about cleanliness to totally rejecting it. I suspect that physical and emotional abuse was present as well. The behaviors she has displayed are a collection of instilled paraphilias, learned brutality, maladaptive coping mechanisms, and personality disorders. She ranks among the most damaged individuals I have ever encountered.
Psychopathy does not correlate with intelligence. That is a myth. It correlates with many things - risk of reoffence, immunity to suicide (ie, a psychopath will not commit suicide,) immunity to rehabilitation, probability of committing sexual assault - but not to intelligence.

People assume there is a correlation because most media psychopaths are of the Bundy variety. They are charming, they are intelligent, and they are caught only because of their own hubris.

The reality is that it is not a super power, and that there are a great number of incredibly stupid psychopaths filling prisons from coast to coast.
No. Ignoring that it is not your job to help Bella, you cannot "help" a psychopath. You can only teach them how to be a better, more subtle psychopath.
 
She's indeed watching this thread and pretty much proved by her own actions that was indeed herself who dumped the hamster by the dumpster.
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As stated in my comment towards her, that was her discord name, account was made four months ago when her behavior started to get more bizarre so it cancels out the possibility some troll created that profile.

It was the video that was linked in this thread so shes been lurking for sure. The channel that video is from, uploaded the same video twice by mistake, yet instead of clicking on the first one that comes up in the search results, she clicked the one posted here. I cant believe how stupid she is. She must have been so used to exploiting easy targets that she thinks her same antics can be used against a rational adult.
 
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She's indeed watching this thread and pretty much proved by her own actions that was indeed herself who dumped the hamster by the dumpster.

As stated in my comment towards her, that was her discord name, account was made four months ago when her behavior started to get more bizarre so it cancels out the possibility some troll created that profile.

It was the video that was linked in this thread so shes been lurking for sure. The channel that video is from, uploaded the same video twice by mistake, yet instead of clicking on the first one that comes up in the search results, she clicked the one posted here. I cant believe how stupid she is. She must have been so used to exploiting easy targets that she thinks her same antics can be used against a rational adult.
Which video were these comments posted on?
 
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