‘It now feels as though I am on my own’ - Trans-man discovers being a man is more difficult than she imagined

‘It now feels as though I am on my own’​

Zander Keig, 52, San Diego

Coast Guard veteran. Works at Naval Medical Center San Diego as a clinical social work case manager. Editor of anthologies about transgender men. Started transition in 2005.

Prior to my transition, I was an outspoken radical feminist. I spoke up often, loudly and with confidence. I was encouraged to speak up. I was given awards for my efforts, literally — it was like, “Oh, yeah, speak up, speak out.” When I speak up now, I am often given the direct or indirect message that I am “mansplaining,” “taking up too much space” or “asserting my white male heterosexual privilege.” Never mind that I am a first-generation Mexican American, a transsexual man, and married to the same woman I was with prior to my transition.

I find the assertion that I am now unable to speak out on issues I find important offensive and I refuse to allow anyone to silence me. My ability to empathize has grown exponentially, because I now factor men into my thinking and feeling about situations. Prior to my transition, I rarely considered how men experienced life or what they thought, wanted or liked about their lives. I have learned so much about the lives of men through my friendships with men, reading books and articles by and for men and through the men I serve as a licensed clinical social worker.

Social work is generally considered to be “female dominated,” with women making up about 80 percent of the profession in the United States. Currently I work exclusively with clinical nurse case managers, but in my previous position, as a medical social worker working with chronically homeless military veterans — mostly male — who were grappling with substance use disorder and severe mental illness, I was one of a few men among dozens of women.

Zander Keig, a Coast Guard veteran and a board member for the Transgender American Veterans Association, attends its meeting in Washington.
Plenty of research shows that life events, medical conditions and family circumstances impact men and women differently. But when I would suggest that patient behavioral issues like anger or violence may be a symptom of trauma or depression, it would often get dismissed or outright challenged. The overarching theme was “men are violent” and there was “no excuse” for their actions.

I do notice that some women do expect me to acquiesce or concede to them more now: Let them speak first, let them board the bus first, let them sit down first, and so on. I also notice that in public spaces men are more collegial with me, which they express through verbal and nonverbal messages: head lifting when passing me on the sidewalk and using terms like “brother” and “boss man” to acknowledge me. As a former lesbian feminist, I was put off by the way that some women want to be treated by me, now that I am a man, because it violates a foundational belief I carry, which is that women are fully capable human beings who do not need men to acquiesce or concede to them.


What continues to strike me is the significant reduction in friendliness and kindness now extended to me in public spaces. It now feels as though I am on my own: No one, outside of family and close friends, is paying any attention to my well-being.

I can recall a moment where this difference hit home. A couple of years into my medical gender transition, I was traveling on a public bus early one weekend morning. There were six people on the bus, including me. One was a woman. She was talking on a mobile phone very loudly and remarked that “men are such a–holes.” I immediately looked up at her and then around at the other men. Not one had lifted his head to look at the woman or anyone else. The woman saw me look at her and then commented to the person she was speaking with about “some a–hole on the bus right now looking at me.” I was stunned, because I recall being in similar situations, but in the reverse, many times: A man would say or do something deemed obnoxious or offensive, and I would find solidarity with the women around me as we made eye contact, rolled our eyes and maybe even commented out loud on the situation. I’m not sure I understand why the men did not respond, but it made a lasting impression on me.


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Being a man sucks, if you're under 6ft or have a penis less than ten-inches long
It’s not that fucking great for guys over 6’4” either, trust me.
The sub-10 inch dong issue I‘ll leave up to the philosophers, I think you’ll find most women are quite happy not having their cervix hammered like a horseshoe being forged.
 
There was another feminist that did an experiment similar to this, but just dressed up like a dude for a year or something to pretend to be one. Had to go through therapy to overcome trauma from the experience; they became so depressed and admitted men's lives are harder.
The experiment is shittily designed and showed nothing, as these things tend to. Like no shit pretending to be a man is hard. Likewise, pretending to be a woman (for reals, with consequences if you get caught) is hard. Living a lie is going to fuck you up, hell it fucks up e.g. kids of spies when they find out what their parents were really doing for a living. Losing your support network will fuck you up. Building up another one as an adult is hard, and knowing you'll be setting fire to it in the near future will fuck you up.

As for whether it's easier to be a woman or a man, it seems to me that men have it easier on average but it's easier to be a woman all else being equal.
 
The experiment is shittily designed and showed nothing, as these things tend to. Like no shit pretending to be a man is hard. Likewise, pretending to be a woman (for reals, with consequences if you get caught) is hard. Living a lie is going to fuck you up, hell it fucks up e.g. kids of spies when they find out what their parents were really doing for a living. Losing your support network will fuck you up. Building up another one as an adult is hard, and knowing you'll be setting fire to it in the near future will fuck you up.

As for whether it's easier to be a woman or a man, it seems to me that men have it easier on average but it's easier to be a woman all else being equal.
While I can agree living a lie is tough, she's apparently had experience with acting and figured being butch was masculine. She was surprised to find those traits treated as feminine, but I don't know how much that would have affected her.

She built a support network easily with the men. They all supported her as a man and none of them were even mad when they found out she was a woman. As far as I'm aware they were still friends after. So not sure where you're coming from on the support network thing. I don't know if she cut ties with everyone else that helped with the experiment, either, but I doubt it since she likely kept tabs with people in on the experiment to keep her from slipping up. She was still clinically depressed from the experience as a man, not from playing as one. Because it wasn't just acting, she was witnessing everything these guys go through and that bothered her a lot to know that nobody cared like they would have if she was being a woman.

Is it anecdotal? Yeah. I only brought it up because it was similar to the article here. Your reaction, however, is the same shit she faced when she was pretending to be a man: dismissal.
 
Fuckin' THIS.

What most people don't realize is that most of the time, it's not our parents who kept bitching at us since the time we could stand to "toughen up", it was mostly our mothers - it's what these retards will never, ever understand.
That was never my experience. Leftist mothers don't at all want their sons to grow up to be men.
 
It's always names like that. Which is weird because she passes. At least visually. No idea if she has the voice of a tiny 16 year old girl like some Gaydens do.

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This looks more like a Bob or a Chuck or something like that. They never pick those manly names though. It's always something an 11 year old imagines they'll name the kid they'll have with the pop star or actor they're totally gonna marry one day.
Because they don't want to be ugly mean smelly 'men'. They want to be this:
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What the hell kind of woman has never considered what men have to deal with?

I'm a radfem and I think there are ways that women still struggle in the US, but part of my feminism is realizing that men live a life I will never understand, much like women live a life that men can never understand.

I look at the troons on here and I laugh at how shallow their understanding of womanhood is.

"I'm going to throw out the first pitch at a major league ball game wearing a tutu because I am wamman."

Meanwhile, I show up at a jobsite and I can feel the dynamic change because I am there. I can dress like a man, banter like a man, but I will never be a man, and that's how shit is.

On the flip side, I have a sisterhood of women where a single look between us can convey multitudes, and the presence of a man would change the dynamic. My boss told me that one of her friends dreamed that she had sex with Putin. Hilarious! This is the kind of dream you tell your female friends about. But a troon wouldn't be told this in casual conversation.

The individual in the OP sounds like a selfish moron.
Regardless of who has it harder, the other's lifestyle is simply different.

It's like how in a lot of non-Western cultures people are much more in-your-face and aggressive. They also tend to be warmer and more friendly. Someone who's reserved would have a hard time living in those cultures. Their personalities aren't necessarily better or worse, just different, and personalities often clash.

This woman found out that life for men is different, and she doesn't like it. Too bad she made permanent changes to her body and can't really go back, but that's no one else's fault, except maybe for the ghouls who enabled transitioning in the first place.
 
Boys are taught that they need to die to protect girls.

Girls are taught that they are superior.

And people wonder why women are out of control and why men are checking out.

where as in earlier times men were taugh the same but women were taugh they should strive to be worthy of that sacriface, i think thats whats missing, not that there werent such sacrifaces, but they were actually valued.
 
First thing you learn as a boy.

Keep your fucking mouth shut and do not show your emotions.

Guess who teaches us this lesson?

No, not the other boys, although they reinforce it once they learn the lesson.

The girls.

The fact that this troon was surprised that being a man means you're on your own, nobody gives a shit, and only your friends and immediate family care means she lived entirely in her entitled little bubble where she was praised just for being born with a cunt.
Wow, women controlled social interactions since they were little. That's pretty fucked up, but I'm sure it benefits equality somehow.

She built a support network easily with the men. They all supported her as a man and none of them were even mad when they found out she was a woman. As far as I'm aware they were still friends
How would they even know to be mad, lmao. Her experiment was bullshit.
 
people in this thread are another version of the idiot in the article. they totally think life as a woman is on easy mode
Don't be morbidly obese and be mildly pleasant to be around and you can snag yourself a well-off husband and stay at home all day playing with your children. If the husband turns out to be shit you can divorce him and take half his stuff and all the kids. That is easy mode. Men generally don't have the option to go gold-digging.
 
How would they even know to be mad, lmao. Her experiment was bullshit.
She revealed herself to them at the end that she was a woman.

Look if you disagree with her premise that men face their own hardships that are largely ignored by society, that's whatever. I'm not here to argue that. All I said was she had a similar experience to the author of the article.
 
She revealed herself to them at the end that she was a woman.

Look if you disagree with her premise that men face their own hardships that are largely ignored by society, that's whatever. I'm not here to argue that. All I said was she had a similar experience to the author of the article.
That premise is not an eye-opener, it's a common fact for everyone other than liberal lesbian dykes.
 
Don't be morbidly obese and be mildly pleasant to be around and you can snag yourself a well-off husband and stay at home all day playing with your children. If the husband turns out to be shit you can divorce him and take half his stuff and all the kids. That is easy mode. Men generally don't have the option to go gold-digging.
don't be an autist and be mildly intelligent to plan ahead and you can snag a decent job. don't burn off cash at weekends on alcohol, save, investment, pay off loans and acquire property. meet a woman either at work, hobby centre or through a mutual female friend. sign a prenup. manipulate her behavior and control her habits and friends. that is easy mode

men can go in crime if not prostitution if everything above feels like a chore
 
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