ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

Why is it always Pilates and awkward dancing with these fatties and never jogging or running?
I don't know why they don't get into the water and walk around in a pool. The water would take a lot of stress off their joints. There are also exercise machines like ellipticals and rowing machines that give a really good aerobic workout without stressing joints too.
 
I don't know why they don't get into the water and walk around in a pool. The water would take a lot of stress off their joints. There are also exercise machines like ellipticals and rowing machines that give a really good aerobic workout without stressing joints too.
All that takes time, money, and attracts attention.

You know what weight loss method adds time to your day, saves you money, and doesn't attract anybody's attention? Just not eating as much.
 
Telogen effluvium is temporary, if scary AF. That hair grows back. Chantal looks to have androgenic alopecia as we've long since determined. Dihydrotestosterone in the scalp is the problem here and after menopause, surgical or natural, there is more of this compared to estrogen, which is why you usually see this on older women. Taking estrogen pills is some help, but not the same. She has waited too long to do anything about it. If someone jumps right on it with a laser comb and Rogaine, it can be considerably slowed down. But this would be the least of her worries now. No one dies from going bald even if it's embarrassing. Diabetes does make hair loss from all sources worse because it affects the circulation, and if circulation to the scalp is poor, more hair is lost. Follicles that are starved miniaturize and become inactive over time. Not having dyed over her grays makes it look even worse.

Chantal is just a dumpster fire. Nothing is going to get fixed.
Cutting down on carbs would actually help her. She stated before that she has PCOS. They recommend a low carb diet (under 70 grams a day, which she now quadruples for a single meal) seems to help with lowering testosterone in the body. They are many women with PCOS that even had babies after following a low carb diet.

Chantal should look into the keto halfasser. That woman eats out every single day. She eats the most greasy fastfood creations and has lost 170lbs doing so. She actually loves to eat the way cuntal does. It could save not only her hair, but also her life at this point.
 
She stated before that she has PCOS. They recommend a low carb diet (under 70 grams a day, which she now quadruples for a single meal) seems to help with lowering testosterone in the body. They are many women with PCOS that even had babies after following a low carb diet.
She's had a complete hysterectomy, she doesn't have PCOS.
 
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For men at least, getting them into the gym is often a food way to change the way they view their bodies.

Last year I took a morbidly obese coworker (420lbs at 6') to the gym and showed him the ropes. The dude exhibited some serious 'mong strength' at work, and I wanted to see what he could do with a bar and some plates.

First day? This motherfucker hit a low bar squat for three reps at 180kg, benched 110kg for two, and deadlifted 170kg for a conventional single. On his first day, after never lifting weights. That's over 1,000lbs total for a complete newbie.

He lost about 30lbs and went to the gym a few more times, but hasn't been back much since (both by choice and circumstance.) Too busy selling weed and ordering takeout to his gaming PC.

But yeah, my point is, even though he didn't continue with his loss, I definitely feel like I got his brain working differently in terms of fat loss. So much unrealised potential in that lad.
 
I'm descended from two different lines of addicts. Mom's side is alcoholism and pills, dad's is crack, heroin and cocaine.
I also have a decent amount of obese food addicts on both sides.

From what I've observed, a big part of the problem is that fattening food is incredibly addictive, and this can be seen in how food addicts behave a lot like alcoholics and crackheads. I've seen food aggression over Chinese takeout, people stealing others' meals from the fridge at 1 AM, sneaking Taco Bell in when they know their fat-shaming parents aren't around, weird rituals surrounding food consumption (have to watch YouTube videos while eating, need to eat on a specific table with a comfy chair, have to take a bite of each food in a specific pattern to make the flavors meld well, etc).

Drug addicts and alcoholics also have to sneak around to hide their addictions, get pissy when they can't partake in the way they want, and feel a deep sense of shame about their behavior. All the food addicts I know also eat processed foods and takeout, they're never addicted to their own homecooked meals.

Therefore my amateur conclusion is that fatties in America are largely fat because they're engaged in the post modern equivalent of all the other addiction crazes that swept over nations in centuries past, ie opium, alcohol, cigarettes etc. Processed food is a drug and it's the most easily accessed one around.
 
assuming they dont have some sort of endocrine related condition, isnt it just calories in vs out? So probably shit food thats very calorie dense and lacking nutrition (fast food, fried stuff, processed, tons of added sugars like sodas etc.) plus lack of exercise.

once they get fat, exercise is likely more difficult and if they develop pre diabetes, losing the weight just becomes more difficult. A vicious cycle.
 
those with diseases that make them fat
I half-agree here. There are some diseases like Prader-Willi that compels you to eat and eat and eat and there's never an off-switch for these people, but from what I heard is that it's very rare. A more common condition that predisposes you to overweight/obesity like PCOS doesn't necessarily mean that you're certainly doomed to a lifetime of obesity. If it's managed with proper diet/exercise then it's possible to be a healthy weight. From what I understand it's far more of an uphill battle than everyone else, you have to be more diligent and vigilant with it, but yah life's not fair.
 
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A more common condition that predisposes you to overweight/obesity like PCOS doesn't necessarily mean that you're certainly doomed to a lifetime of obesity
That isn't even necessarily true, it makes you more prone to visceral fat and insulin resistance and makes it easier to gain muscle, but not much harder to lose weight if you just count calories. It doesn't completely break your body in the way hypothyroidism does.
 
assuming they dont have some sort of endocrine related condition, isnt it just calories in vs out? So probably shit food thats very calorie dense and lacking nutrition (fast food, fried stuff, processed, tons of added sugars like sodas etc.) plus lack of exercise.

once they get fat, exercise is likely more difficult and if they develop pre diabetes, losing the weight just becomes more difficult. A vicious cycle.
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From what I've observed, a big part of the problem is that fattening food is incredibly addictive, and this can be seen in how food addicts behave a lot like alcoholics and crackheads. I've seen food aggression over Chinese takeout, people stealing others' meals from the fridge at 1 AM, sneaking Taco Bell in when they know their fat-shaming parents aren't around, weird rituals surrounding food consumption (have to watch YouTube videos while eating, need to eat on a specific table with a comfy chair, have to take a bite of each food in a specific pattern to make the flavors meld well, etc).
I have a deathfat in my extended family and she displays so much of these addict behaviors that it's unreal.

Whenever family's around she will make up tiny plates of food, eat like half of it, say she's full and then wrap it up and put it in the fridge. Then she goes to her room and chows down on the massive stash of candy she's got in there. This is exactly like an alcoholic who visibly nurses a couple beers over the course of the evening while secretly taking pulls from a handle of vodka he's hidden in the air register. Addicts hide how much they're consuming so that their family doesn't notice that they have a problem.

The issue, I guess, is that the concept of food addiction still seems really controversial. I feel that it undeniably exists though since it shares all the same features of other types of addiction.
 
My wild conspiracy theory is that the obesity epidemic in north and Latin america is due to (my impression of) lack of proper prevention/punishment for sexual abusers

60 years ago an abuser would have a lot more limitations on targets to take advantage of, and they were more likely to be lynched or disappeared with no police interference

Nowadays in North America vigilante justice is more likely to get you in trouble, and the only vector for dealing with abusers is the police, and the law that often gives out slaps on the wrist for this. I understand some of the reasoning but also like. Bruh
 
An entire prepared box of CHEETOS® Mac 'n Cheese Cheesy Jalapeño is 825 calories. 112 grams of carbs, 32 grams of fat.
It is absurd to think that anyone can "intuitively" eat food like this, which has been manufactured in a laboratory to be as delicious and appetizing and addictive as possible. Human bodies have not evolved to eat foods like "Corn Syrup Solids" or "Autolyzed Yeast Extract" or "Disodium Guanylate."

Quite a few deathfats know how to cook and you can be healthy eating prepared food.
 
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Something I've become interested in is the rampant obesity among pacific island nations. I did a search of the thread and found around a handful of posts about this hundreds of posts back. This is my pitch on why it's interesting:
The top 10 fattest countries are pacific island nations. The UN did a study on calorie consumption by nation and unfortunately most of the micro-states weren't profiled. However, the two that were ate on average around 1,000 calories less than America and some European countries that while fat, aren't as big fatties. Some studies say pacific islander's metabolisms are more efficient that other races because pacific islanders historically consumed a lot of fish, which is typically low calorie and high protein. This compares harshly to the carbs most islanders eat today that are high calorie and low protein. The islands are so small and sandy they can't farm enough food to meet demand. It's incredibly expensive to ship healthy modern staples like milk, eggs, chicken, produce, etc to the islands. And the added concerns of spoilage mean it's time sensitive. Foods with longer shelf lives like heavily processed meats, chips and sweets are much cheaper to ship. These foods cause obesity and malnutrition. And now the very important part that's entirely the pacific island's fault: pacific islanders should go back to eating the mostly fish diet that their bodies need, but Cheetos and Double Stuff Oreos are much more exciting. Biology, shipping logistics and gluttony teaming up for the final blow.

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Something I've become interested in is the rampant obesity among pacific island nations. I did a search of the thread and found around a handful of posts about this hundreds of posts back. This is my pitch on why it's interesting:
The top 10 fattest countries are pacific island nations. The UN did a study on calorie consumption by nation and unfortunately most of the micro-states weren't profiled. However, the two that were ate on average around 1,000 calories less than America and some European countries that while fat, aren't as big fatties. Some studies say pacific islander's metabolisms are more efficient that other races because pacific islanders historically consumed a lot of fish, which is typically low calorie and high protein. This compares harshly to the carbs most islanders eat today that are high calorie and low protein. The islands are so small and sandy they can't farm enough food to meet demand. It's incredibly expensive to ship healthy modern staples like milk, eggs, chicken, produce, etc to the islands. And the added concerns of spoilage mean it's time sensitive. Foods with longer shelf lives like heavily processed meats, chips and sweets are much cheaper to ship. These foods cause obesity and malnutrition. And now the very important part that's entirely the pacific island's fault: pacific islanders should go back to eating the mostly fish diet that their bodies need, but Cheetos and Double Stuff Oreos are much more exciting. Biology, shipping logistics and gluttony teaming up for the final blow.

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Introduction of western diets over there might have something to do with it
 
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