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ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!
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There's some evidence that malnutrition during your youth makes you way more susceptible to packing on the pounds as an adult.Introduction of western diets over there might have something to do with it
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So I think this might be a thing where Western food culture is coming into areas that were previously deprived. China, South Korea, India, Nigeria are all starting to see rising obesity rates in urban areas. Japan not so much.
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In Japan there is also a lot of social stigma surrounding obesity. I've heard from expats that it's not uncommon for fat people in Japan to have friends and acquaintances (and even sometimes complete strangers) approach them and poke them in the stomach while making comments about their weight. Japan also has a fat tax (the Metabo Law) which mandates that adults between the ages of 40 and 74 have an annual waist circumference measurement to determine if they're at risk of obesity, and companies which fail to show any progress in encouraging their employees to lose weight are even subject to fines from the government.
The problem in much of the Western world is that there isn't the same stigma surrounding obesity, and as it becomes increasingly common, it becomes increasingly viewed as normal and acceptable. As a consequence, fat people in the West have little incentive to change their dietary habits, and our governments are often so beholden to corporate interests (namely: food producers) that they have little incentive to want to change the status quo either, even though reducing obesity would almost certainly reduce costs to the taxpayer in the long run.
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Well in the US most people work for companies that self-insure, aka your medical claims come from their funds instead of a health insurance company's coffers. So there's a financial incentive to make sure your employees aren't fat and unhealthy but it's kind of hidden. Japan has a more direct way of doing it.
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I looked in the fucking mirror. I am a tiny, fine-boned, petite woman, and tiny, fine-boned, petite womenz do not need 2K calories a day.
First step move more. Just exercise and move.
Second step cut of carbs and sugar.
Third step eats lots of protein.
Fourth step change your eating habits. Ain't no need to buy Oreos, pizza, and half gallons of ice cream. Instead, eat smaller portions more frequently. Eat until you are satisfied not a bloated competitive eating contest winner.
First step move more. Just exercise and move.
Second step cut of carbs and sugar.
Third step eats lots of protein.
Fourth step change your eating habits. Ain't no need to buy Oreos, pizza, and half gallons of ice cream. Instead, eat smaller portions more frequently. Eat until you are satisfied not a bloated competitive eating contest winner.
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Just because you can drink it doesn't mean it does not contain 3 days worth of calories.
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I don’t wanna PL here but I’m loving proof that:
You can lose weight if you actually commit to it
The only one who can make you lose or gain weight is you
You can lose weight if you actually commit to it
The only one who can make you lose or gain weight is you
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Something I was wondering about in the shower today is how much healthier a (hypothetical) fat person who overeats healthy food would be, as compared to someone of the same weight who just consumes fast food, soda, and sweets constantly. How much of their health problems can be actually attributed to their shitty diets rather than their weight?
Obviously stuff like joint pain and sleep apnea is going to happen across the board, and stuff like type II diabetes and nutritional deficiencies is only going to affect the latter. But what about other conditions, like heart disease? At what point does a fat person who gorges themselves on healthy food become less healthy than a normal person with a shit-tier diet?
Obviously stuff like joint pain and sleep apnea is going to happen across the board, and stuff like type II diabetes and nutritional deficiencies is only going to affect the latter. But what about other conditions, like heart disease? At what point does a fat person who gorges themselves on healthy food become less healthy than a normal person with a shit-tier diet?
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Not much.
The problem is not in the food they eat, but in how much they eat. A lot of excess fat gets deposited into the arteries, causing higher blood pressure, possible heart attacks and artery blockage due to blood clots. Internal organs suffer as well from the strain of processing/working so much, etc.
While unhealthy food gives them more preservatives and less vitamins, which makes it harder for them to work and regenerate, they will face the same issues from overeating.
Pretty sure diabetes is causd by high blood in sugar and low consumption of sugar (no physical movement), both of which are accentuated by being a fat blob.
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I have discovered that one of the more bizarre things you have to adjust to when you start watching fatties is that when they say "I ordered a pizza", or "I got a pizza" or whatever, you have to mentally correct for the fact that they mean they ate an entire pizza.
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All fat people should be made to spincycle daily to contribute to the national power grid.
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Everyone knows you only end up 500 lbs because of genetics. I mean, think about it. Remember all those fat Civil War soldiers in scooty puffs? Or bedbound Phonecians?
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I have a fat friend who wants to lose weight but says she can’t because she’s not “disciplined” enough. I disagree; she’s disciplined about her business and her jobs, but she can’t take metformin on schedule, often lets her food cravings (croissants, chocolate, pastries, cheese and wine, fatty meats, a lot of takeout) guide her day to day diet, and occasionally goes on those stupid juice fasts like Sakara; where you bail out in a week because it sucks. Now she’s talking to me about semaglutide injections, which I hear are pretty much a magic bullet, but I have reservations and I’m feeling a little judgy about it tbh.
I’ve been fat before; was a fat kid, had a stint as a fat-ish adult, lost the weight twice over and kept it off. the answer to the question “how can I lose weight” is to reflect on the dietary choices you make, and then gradually implement small tweaks and changes that are tolerable until you’re in a place where calories in < calories out. It’s not that hard to do if you’re significantly overweight because your BMR to retain that weight is pretty high and exercise will help raise BMR further.
I feel like my friend just wants to bypass developing healthy eating habits and exercise routines and just have semaglutide do the work of making her thin for her; but I question anything that markets itself as a miracle cure. Wont she just gain the weight back if she stops semaglutide? Every drug has side effects, what is the drawback? Maybe I’m a hypocrite: I’ve taken metformin and also adipex (appetite suppressant) to lose weight. Maybe I’m the rube here and I should be asking about semaglutide?
What do you think
I’ve been fat before; was a fat kid, had a stint as a fat-ish adult, lost the weight twice over and kept it off. the answer to the question “how can I lose weight” is to reflect on the dietary choices you make, and then gradually implement small tweaks and changes that are tolerable until you’re in a place where calories in < calories out. It’s not that hard to do if you’re significantly overweight because your BMR to retain that weight is pretty high and exercise will help raise BMR further.
I feel like my friend just wants to bypass developing healthy eating habits and exercise routines and just have semaglutide do the work of making her thin for her; but I question anything that markets itself as a miracle cure. Wont she just gain the weight back if she stops semaglutide? Every drug has side effects, what is the drawback? Maybe I’m a hypocrite: I’ve taken metformin and also adipex (appetite suppressant) to lose weight. Maybe I’m the rube here and I should be asking about semaglutide?
What do you think
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I had a similar story. At around 25 my weight started creeping up on me again and I thought to myself, too many more years gone by and this shit ain't going to be any easier to lose. Through my teens and college days I would just "be more active", whatever that meant, and eat smaller portions or snack less. That had stopped working and so I actually made a plan and stuck to it. So it's been a few decades and all is well. But on year 3 my fat friend decided she was never going to forgive me for getting fit.
Half the battle is not buying crappy food with over saturated flavors that doesn't keep you filled. If it's around the office for free it's hard to say no, but it's so easy to just not put it in the shopping cart. But I'm cheap, so there's that.
Anyway, fat friend wanted to go to the gym with me but would whine that she couldn't make it and then offer alternative activities - totally surprised that I didn't take the bait and still went to the gym myself. The one time she went with me she was disappointed that I did exactly what I told her I was going to do, which was my lifting day. She was welcome to follow along and I'd help her with some entry level exercises but she was hoping to talk me into just chilling on the elliptical next to her.
I'll never forget how smug she was about the 400 calories the elliptical said she burned, as if my workout didn't burn that many calories and as if she didn't reward her workout with a frappucino.
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Lack of self control, fatties are the same as coomers except its food instead of jerking off. Eating is an easy source of dopamine kicks. That's why people become disgustingly obese, it becomes an addiction, only cure for land whales is quitting cold turkey and fasting for a while, they have enormous fat reserves so they'll be fine.
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Her time on the elliptical most likely didn't even burn that many calories. Those trackers on machines tend to be way off. She most likely burned 100-200 calories at most.
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Well I’ll agree my friend has an addiction to food cause she talks about her cravings for croissants and chocolates and brownies and things like that. She’s not a land whale but she’s gaining; I don’t bring it up unless she does, and I’m at a loss to offer advice that doesn’t seem cruel or critical. She thinks she eats healthy but she doesnt, and says she doesn’t have the discipline for workouts, when that’s a skill you have to develop on your own.
I don’t want to bash her. I’ve been fat and I know what it’s like being at war between your appetite and the scale. Heck., I even sympathize with using food to shove down bad feelings. I did that a lot as a kid, eating to deal with family stress. You wish there was a magic wand or pill or injection to just make the fat go away, but even if there were you’d get fat again if you don’t change your habits.
Like my uncle says; you can’t outrun your fork.
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I'm going to speak about the USA specifically, but maybe it applies to other countries too since obesity seems to have become a global issue.
While self-control is the ultimate factor, there's no denying that the food quality in America is absolute dogshit. I've had friends who've vacationed to eastern Europe or east Asia eat nothing but fast food there and lose over ten to twenty pounds, without even exercising much either. When the FDA advised that American companies are putting way too much sugar in their foods, the companies basically complained "everybody is dumping obscene amounts of sugar into everything, why should I do better?" That's the heart of the problem. Self control helps only a handful of people who have their minds put to it, but it only goes so far when the entire damn system is rigged against over 300 million people.
Yes, it's a personal problem when somebody balloons to 500 lbs. That doesn't just happen on its own, and is a result of mental illness. But when tens of millions of people are dozens of pounds overweight, it's a public health crisis. The companies that produce the vast majority of the food (and it's staggering how so few people own and control so much, even worse when they have no obligation for anyone's health either) insist on dumping tons of sugars and oils everywhere just to make their food more palatable and addictive, and refuse to cooperate with regulations that could reverse the damage of the obesity crisis, and likely just pay their way out of any sort of scrutiny.
While self-control is the ultimate factor, there's no denying that the food quality in America is absolute dogshit. I've had friends who've vacationed to eastern Europe or east Asia eat nothing but fast food there and lose over ten to twenty pounds, without even exercising much either. When the FDA advised that American companies are putting way too much sugar in their foods, the companies basically complained "everybody is dumping obscene amounts of sugar into everything, why should I do better?" That's the heart of the problem. Self control helps only a handful of people who have their minds put to it, but it only goes so far when the entire damn system is rigged against over 300 million people.
Yes, it's a personal problem when somebody balloons to 500 lbs. That doesn't just happen on its own, and is a result of mental illness. But when tens of millions of people are dozens of pounds overweight, it's a public health crisis. The companies that produce the vast majority of the food (and it's staggering how so few people own and control so much, even worse when they have no obligation for anyone's health either) insist on dumping tons of sugars and oils everywhere just to make their food more palatable and addictive, and refuse to cooperate with regulations that could reverse the damage of the obesity crisis, and likely just pay their way out of any sort of scrutiny.
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Fat people are stuck in a cycle of self pity and desire, all of them are the whiniest bitches known to man. I'm surprised they don't lose weight due to the sheer amount of muscles moved from complaining and heavy breathing. My BMI is 17.8 btw I'm also white and sexy.