J.K. Rowling needs to stop messing with Harry Potter - A general STFU J.K. Rowling MegaThread <3

I think this has potential as some books could get legitimately better adaptations if they have a proper length given to them. Like they could actually show the Quidditch World Cup in Book 4 or Saint Mungos in Book 5. However it's likely they will still cheapen out on things and likely it'll suffer from modern day storytelling flaws that the OG films didn't have to deal with.
I really don't get people that want this shit. Do you not realize that all of that crap is filler AKA stuff that's completely unimportant to the plot, WB shouldn't be getting any shit for gutting it from the screenplay. Quidditch World Cup, I at least kind of get it's importance because pivotal shit to the plot happens there and it's interesting in the sense of showing the audience a taste of the wizarding world beyond England (which Rowling completely wastes but I digress) but the entire St. Mungo's segment is a complete waste of time that adds basically nothing of importance to the plot and in a book where over 80% of it is already filler, that's a massive fucking sin.

Order of the Phoenix is actually a fantastic adaption for that reason because it scraps all of the pointless side shit except for Hagrid's retarded brother (because Rowling insisted that he would be important to the plot of book 7, LMAO. You can guess how that turned out) but that's still enough to preserve the core of the story. The story is still ass, mind you, but as far as adaptions go, they did a surprisingly good job.

Also the reboot is going to be shit. The only new things they'd be including is filler stuff and that is better on page than on-screen.

Marauders era would make sense, not because it would lead to any great stories but because it would be major CW teen girl audience bait. Easy money by the truckloads.
 
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I really don't get people that want this shit. Do you not realize that all of that crap is filler AKA stuff that's completely unimportant to the plot, WB shouldn't be getting any shit for gutting it from the screenplay. Quidditch World Cup, I at least kind of get it's importance because pivotal shit to the plot happens there and it's interesting in the sense of showing the audience a taste of the wizarding world beyond England (which Rowling completely wastes but I digress) but the entire St. Mungo's segment is a complete waste of time that adds basically nothing of importance to the plot and in a book where over 80% of it is already filler, that's a massive fucking sin.
The World Cup introduces Krum to the audience and gives scenario for the Death Eater attack.

St. Mungo is not a waste of time: it shows how life is for the other kid who could have been the Chosen One and gives Neville a motivation for joining in DA, also explains why he lives with his grandma and why he's the kind of person he initially is. Neville's not really close to the main trio, but once they discover his secret, he opens up a bit with them and joins them to fight when they go to the Ministry of Magic. The story is not focussed on Neville, but he starts to change after that for the best.

Order of the Phoenix is actually a fantastic adaption for that reason because it scraps all of the pointless side shit except for Hagrid's retarded brother (because Rowling insisted that he would be important to the plot of book 7, LMAO. You can guess how that turned out) but that's still enough to preserve the core of the story. The story is still ass, mind you, but as far as adaptions go, they did a surprisingly good job.
They scrapped very important things, such as Sirius giving Harry the mirror, Sirius explaining about RAB (who is more relevant than Grawp), Kreacher going to the Black sisters, and most importantly, Snape's worse memory. They never showed why it was his worse memory.

They also changed Harry's reaction to Sirius' death and to the whole situation. He spent a full year being kept on the dark and been frustrated (exactly as Sirius), which was the reason Black died at the end. Dumbledore ordered the Order to never give Harry any explanations of anything. Was it that hard to say "Harry, Voldemort thinks a prophecy about you will give him advantage against you, so you need to learn Occlumency for him to not enter your mind and you should never, under any circumstance, go to the Ministry because Riddle will try to lure you there."

Instead, Dumbledore sent Harry with the teacher he hated the most to allow him invading his mind without telling him the reason, which alienated them against each other even more than before, with Harry never properly understanding why the lessons were important (he said it's not a big deal Snape stopped, and he couldn't understand either why Lupin and Sirius were so worried about this). If Harry and Snape had been in a better situation, all Harry had to do was going to Snape and tell him "I've had a vision of Sirius" and he'd be alive.

That's why, at the end, Harry yells and breaks stuff from Dumbledore's office, he's mad at him and at himself. The movie shows him being sad. Harry wasn't just sad: he was MAD. That is a terrible adaptation if you change so radically the emotions of your character from rage to sadness only because you adapted everything else badly.
 
@Tasty Tatty Since for some reason I cannot quote you directly and I'd rather not delve into a major argument over Harry-freaking-Potter.
The World Cup introduces Krum to the audience and gives scenario for the Death Eater attack.
It introduces Krum, Veelas, a wizarding world beyond Britain, Death Eaters, Winky, crucial plot points for later in the book, yes.
St. Mungo is not a waste of time: it shows how life is for the other kid who could have been the Chosen One and gives Neville a motivation for joining in DA, also explains why he lives with his grandma and why he's the kind of person he initially is.
Neville has already joined the DA before then and his backstory is already known to the audience by that point. That's not even including completely pointless side crap like Gilderoy Lockhart being a loony. Unlike the Quidditch World Cup, St. Mungo's does not include any crucial plot beats for later in the plot or even have anything interesting in it. Order of the Phoenix is full of garbage like that and if you were to properly edit the thing, it'd be about the size of the Chamber of Secrets.
They scrapped very important things, such as Sirius giving Harry the mirror, Sirius explaining about RAB (who is more relevant than Grawp), Kreacher going to the Black sisters, and most importantly, Snape's worse memory.They never showed why it was his worse memory.
Sirius does mention Regulus in the movie when explaining his family tree and Snape's worst memory is in there. If anything it's better done in the movie because instead of Harry being an inconsiderate dick, it's him getting into Snape's mind by accident. I'm also pretty sure the mirror is mentioned too though I don't mind it not being mentioned because it's one of the most hilarious examples of an author pointing attention to their own plot hole in an attempt to make it seem like "I totally meant to do that" that I've ever seen. Kreacher going to the Blacks is valid, I suppose, though it also opens up a whole can of worms about secret keeping like how Kreacher can get back home after leaving and why can't he take the sisters with him.
They also changed Harry's reaction to Sirius' death and to the whole situation.
They really didn't. Harry was still kept in the dark. He's still mad and wants to kill Bellatrix (and yet for some dumb reason his torture curse doesn't work even though according to the dumbass logic put forth by the book, it totally should). The only real difference is that Bellatrix uses Avada Kedavra instead of a red spell (which is presumably Stupefy) which is really only relevant if you want to subscribe to the fan theory that Bellatrix didn't actually want to kill Sirius and it was an accident that she just went along with because lol evil.
 
Unlike the Quidditch World Cup, St. Mungo's does not include any crucial plot beats for later in the plot or even have anything interesting in it. Order of the Phoenix is full of garbage like that and if you were to properly edit the thing, it'd be about the size of the Chamber of Secrets.
I'm going to disagree with you- not because I think St. Mungo's sets up anything particularly important, but because I don't think it needs to be an important scene to justify it's inclusion in the book. As a kid I enjoyed the hospital chapter, seeing what happened to Lockheart made me laugh and I thought the bit with Neville's parents was really sad. OOTP was my favorite in the series because of how much of it there was- I could reread it and find little details I hadn't picked up on before, and that made it fun. If it had been "properly edited" to the size of one of the earlier book, I wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.
 
I'm going to disagree with you- not because I think St. Mungo's sets up anything particularly important, but because I don't think it needs to be an important scene to justify it's inclusion in the book. As a kid I enjoyed the hospital chapter, seeing what happened to Lockheart made me laugh and I thought the bit with Neville's parents was really sad. OOTP was my favorite in the series because of how much of it there was- I could reread it and find little details I hadn't picked up on before, and that made it fun. If it had been "properly edited" to the size of one of the earlier book, I wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.
Eh, you do you. I personally found it a drag and an indicator of how bad Rowling's writing would get from that point onward. I wouldn't even mind it if it was 800 or however many pages of actually interesting filler, it's just that it was 800 pages of incredibly boring crap which made me additionally very pissed off because it felt like Rowling was deliberately wasting my time.
 
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Decided to sit down and read the books for the first time, currently halfway through 3. I swear to god; everything "NOT INCLUDED IN THE MOVIES" is fucking filler or a slightly better take on something seen in the movies. The first two books read like a summary of the movies, like. There's very few extra details, the Mirror of Erised feels like it's shoe-horned in just to add more magical bullshit, though the trials towards the end make a lot more sense and sort of deflates the importance of the mirror as just something Albus thought was an easy trial for him to implement. It made the ending more grounded yet magical, so I guess that's one good thing.

Anyway: I frequent a tranny subreddit that sometimes post good memes and they've reached the point at which it's actually okay to talk about Rowling, but only if you immediately discredit her. Stuff like "she amassed wealth solely on the produce of her mind; no african slaves, no generational wealth, only a strong capable woman. BUT, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST USE TRUTH SERUM-". Like, do these fuckheads think wars should be won by whoever has the most nukes as well? We got nukes, why don't we use them? Humanity? Law, equality? Rights? Fuck all that: brute force, baby!

The majority of trannies grew up Potterheads and you can tell they still hold onto it with how invested they are in tiny details. "Yeah sure Rowling made a top 10 franchise with nothing but a pen and toilet paper, BUT-". Like jesus fuck, move on. Fight for the 'rights' and shoot up a school or something. It's 7 fucking books. Brandon Sanderson has written more than that AND he will reply to you on Twitter. Oh wait, he's not Rowling, your hate-Stan object of lust and/or envy?
 
Well the leader of the Labour Party, but it is Keith, I can see why there was confusion.

It is true though. Joanne doesn't support radical Labour, nor Commie Labour. But she does still support the comfy Middle class Labour, which is basically what her idea of the Wizard world is. Government job or wage-slavery, with bread and circuses for all the oiks.
According to her biography, Minerva used to be part of the DMLE. But the implications and read between the lines convey that it was more of a desk job than an actual field agent.

Real feminist there, Joanne.
 
According to her biography, Minerva used to be part of the DMLE. But the implications and read between the lines convey that it was more of a desk job than an actual field agent.

Real feminist there, Joanne.
I mean, the Wizarding World in general feels more backwards than the Muggles when it comes to stuff like technology, prejudice and the like. McGonagall is rather old in the '90s, no doubt the higher-ups thought a young female LEO couldn't realistically stand on equal footing with her peers in action. Also apparently she was pretty in her youth, so she would "look good" at the front office.

I dunno, McGonagall always came off as a woman who had a lot of grief back in the day and working with Dumbledore helped get her back on her feet.
 
I mean, the Wizarding World in general feels more backwards than the Muggles when it comes to stuff like technology, prejudice and the like. McGonagall is rather old in the '90s, no doubt the higher-ups thought a young female LEO couldn't realistically stand on equal footing with her peers in action. Also apparently she was pretty in her youth, so she would "look good" at the front office.

I dunno, McGonagall always came off as a woman who had a lot of grief back in the day and working with Dumbledore helped get her back on her feet.
It seemed more like Minerva was "just there", and didn't exactly feel like an actual character at the worst of times.
 
They first two books are pretty enjoyable. My favorite is Chamber of Secrets, I liked the idea of the monster terrorizing the students and the whole whodunnit story. After that Rowling focused too much on Harry's teen dilemmas which I don't give a shit. Order of Phoenix was the franchise lowest point. Fuck the movie in particular.
 
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That they're unabashedly open about it being a literal fucking fanfiction with names changed peeves me off. E.L. James should've gotten flogged for what she's done to the literary world. (Cassandra Clare as well, but she had somewhat attempted to renovate her fanfiction into something original. Speaking of, that sow is going to be 51 this year, and she's still a melting tub of lard.)
 
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The cope is amazing: "yeah, without them, you wouldn't have been successful!"

LMAO.
 
The 3 did backstab her to further their careers, but I don't get why anyone, including her, is surprised Hollywood actors would do that. The scorpion and the frog and all that.

Very few actors have principles, and most will say whatever is the correct opinion in the current year. Why should they be different?
 
The 3 did backstab her to further their careers, but I don't get why anyone, including her, is surprised Hollywood actors would do that. The scorpion and the frog and all that.
Because she probably thought she had them in her pocket. She was the one largely responsible for their careers, so she must have thought (naively, mind you) that they'd have her back. This is a woman who was probably still optimistic about certain things. Getting a brutal taste of human nature has probably disabused her of some of the beliefs she held and still holds. She's just wiser now about not taking things at face value.

EDIT: Then again, her first husband pretty much knocked most of the optimism out of her. The bastard still has the audacity to be a nuisance to her.
 
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