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My mom who is a preschool teacher experienced something today at school. One of her students got frightened in the hallway, saying that he saw Slender Man, a Creepypasta character. Interestingly, in 2014, 12 year old girls stabbed their friend claiming that Slender Man told them to do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man_stabbing

It is therefore not far fetched to think that after the Creepypasta story of Slender Man was written, a demon decided to take the form of Slender Man and convinced those girls to stab their friend and then showed up at the school my mother works at. Things like this make me wonder if I should convert back to Catholicism.
There is no such thing as demons, there is no such thing as slenderman. Kids, especially fucking preschool kids, have wild imagination and are regularly terrified of stupid things. 12 year old girls lie sometimes, especially after stabbing a friend.

And finally, even ignoring all that, how the hell does any of that in any way have anything to do with you converting to catholicism.

You have schizophrenia. Your schizophrenia is causing you to find increased significance in non-significant events, and, as is common with schizophrenia, it's also causing you to consider your own actions and views as having wildly inflated significance, to the point that you think your beliefs are affecting the behaviors of fucking demons at your mom's preschool.

Please talk to your counsellors about this specific stuff. If they don't see anything wrong, I strongly, strongly suggest you get a second opinion. I've seen people go from where you are to homeless junkies in a matter of months, dude.

Honestly, if it would relieve your anxiety, you probably should go back to Catholicism, at least for now. But you've gotta get a grip on reality.

Sorry if this seems mean, or like I'm dismissing what seems important to you, but these are really common signs you're displaying.
 
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You ever been to Tweetsie Railroad? That place is awesome. Used to go there all the time as a child back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Last time I went there was in 2015 for old time's sake. You should go there.

As a fan of historic steam locomotives and general Wild West kitsch, I love Tweetsie Railroad.


You should plan a vacation there, and maybe see Grandfather Mountain and the beautiful countryside in general. Plus, there is a lot of awesome weed in Boone, so that might help get your mind off these delusions of English royalty. They got the kind of weed so strong that it could put both Amanda Winn-Lee AND @RomeoRose into a coma.

I'm serious when I say some of the best weed ever is in Boone, North Carolina.

They call the area "The High Country" for a damn good reason.
 
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You ever been to Tweetsie Railroad? That place is awesome. Used to go there all the time as a child back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Last time I went there was in 2015 for old time's sake. You should go there.

As a fan of historic steam locomotives and general Wild West kitsch, I love Tweetsie Railroad.


You should plan a vacation there, and maybe see Grandfather Mountain and the beautiful countryside in general. Plus, there is a lot of awesome weed in Boone, so that might help get your mind off these delusions of English royalty. They got the kind of weed so strong that it could put both Amanda Winn-Lee AND @RomeoRose into a coma.

I'm serious when I say some of the best weed ever is in Boone, North Carolina.

They call the area "The High Country" for a damn good reason.
I have relatives in North Carolina though the last time I visited there was 2007. It is a nice state. However weed is still illegal in North Carolina and I learned about the health risks in high school.

There is no such thing as demons, there is no such thing as slenderman. Kids, especially fucking preschool kids, have wild imagination and are regularly terrified of stupid things. 12 year old girls lie sometimes, especially after stabbing a friend.

And finally, even ignoring all that, how the hell does any of that in any way have anything to do with you converting to catholicism.

You have schizophrenia. Your schizophrenia is causing you to find increased significance in non-significant events, and, as is common with schizophrenia, it's also causing you to consider your own actions and views as having wildly inflated significance, to the point that you think your beliefs are affecting the behaviors of fucking demons at your mom's preschool.

Please talk to your counsellors about this specific stuff. If they don't see anything wrong, I strongly, strongly suggest you get a second opinion. I've seen people go from where you are to homeless junkies in a matter of months, dude.

Honestly, if it would relieve your anxiety, you probably should go back to Catholicism, at least for now. But you've gotta get a grip on reality.

Sorry if this seems mean, or like I'm dismissing what seems important to you, but these are really common signs you're displaying.
I never said that my beliefs caused the demon to show up at my mom’s preschool. I don’t think I am schizophrenic because I am able to rationalize these things. I did take the fact that kids have wild imaginations into account, I was just saying that a demon showing up is one of the hypothetical possibilities. When kids imagine seeing monsters, it is usually in the dark where they don’t see objects or people clearly and mistake them for monsters.

As for the 12 year olds, they were found not guilty by reason of insanity so it could be that they heard voices in their head that they thought was Slender Man telling them to stab their friend. But why would 2 different mentally ill girls hear the same voices from the same character?

The reason why this is making me consider converting back to Catholicism is because demons are a Christian belief. But at the same time, the fact that I was shown evidence against the doctrine of Papal Infallibility inhibits me from fully believing that Catholicism is true. So these things are in my mind are contradicting each other so I don’t know what to believe anymore. I now have great fear of the possibility of being damned to hell for my unbelief.
 
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I never said that my beliefs caused the demon to show up at my mom’s preschool. I don’t think I am schizophrenic because I am able to rationalize these things. I did take the fact that kids have wild imaginations into account, I was just saying that a demon showing up is one of the hypothetical possibilities. When kids imagine seeing monsters, it is usually in the dark where they don’t see objects or people clearly and mistake them for monsters.

As for the 12 year olds, they were found not guilty by reason of insanity so it could be that they heard voices in their head that they thought was Slender Man telling them to stab their friend. But why would 2 different mentally ill girls hear the same voices from the same character?

The reason why this is making me consider converting back to Catholicism is because demons are a Christian belief. But at the same time, the fact that I was shown evidence against the doctrine of Papal Infallibility inhibits me from fully believing that Catholicism is true. So these things are in my mind are contradicting each other so I don’t know what to believe anymore. I now have great fear of the possibility of being damned to hell for my unbelief.
But schizophrenia isn't like... just being crazy. It's a specific set of symptoms, a person can have schizophrenia and still be lucid and able to rationalize, although it certainly causes undue anxiety.

If converting back to catholicism would make your anxiety over going to hell go away, at this point maybe you should do that.

But like I said before, are you talking to a professional about this specific stuff? I mean, you previously seemed to think that I, a random internet idiot, had been somehow silenced because of the stuff we're discussing here. That's the "paranoid" part of paranoid schizophrenia. That's what I was talking about with the perception of increased significance of your actions and importance. I'm nobody important to anyone in a position of power, and I don't think you are anyone important to any people in positions of power either. What do these theoretical people care about what we discuss? Like, you seem to think you're stumbling onto some crazy conspiracy involving the school janitor, the local police, but also it's far reaching enough that they're tracking you on the internet and going after people you talked to? Doesn't that seem.... far-fetched to you?

And then, at the same time as that weird conspiracy, also demons are getting into shenanigans nearby, although I can't tell if you think that is directed at you or not. But ALSO, at the same time as both of those weird things, god is sending elevators and freezing warm water because it's apparently very important to him, the creator of the universe, that you specifically believe in him and catholic dogma. He wants everyone else to take his existence on faith, but you specifically are so important he's sending you multiple signs.

That's a lot of weight to put on your own shoulders. You are one person, you're not responsible for all that shit, even if it was real.
 
But schizophrenia isn't like... just being crazy. It's a specific set of symptoms, a person can have schizophrenia and still be lucid and able to rationalize, although it certainly causes undue anxiety.

If converting back to catholicism would make your anxiety over going to hell go away, at this point maybe you should do that.
The problem is that I am stuck in a state between belief and unbelief. The evidence against papal infallibility gives me enough doubt that prevents me from fully believing, while at the same time, the supposed evidence of miracles and demons prevents me from fully disbelieving. Shrodinger's cat is a good analogy for this. I suppose that I could be devoutly practice Catholicism just in case it is real, but that would mean that I am forbidden to masturbate because it is a mortal sin. Should I repress my sexual urges for something that may not be real?
But like I said before, are you talking to a professional about this specific stuff? I mean, you previously seemed to think that I, a random internet idiot, had been somehow silenced because of the stuff we're discussing here. That's the "paranoid" part of paranoid schizophrenia. That's what I was talking about with the perception of increased significance of your actions and importance. I'm nobody important to anyone in a position of power, and I don't think you are anyone important to any people in positions of power either. What do these theoretical people care about what we discuss? Like, you seem to think you're stumbling onto some crazy conspiracy involving the school janitor, the local police, but also it's far reaching enough that they're tracking you on the internet and going after people you talked to? Doesn't that seem.... far-fetched to you?
I meet with a therapist once a week and talk about things that have been going on, so I will discuss this in my next appointment.

I rationalized that if the janitor's disappearance do with an alien abduction, the aliens would try to cover their tracks by silencing those discussing the event. And a previous comment shows what made me think that aliens might be involved.
Well another crazy thing happened today, and I am beginning to wonder if aliens are behind this and the janitor’s disappearance. How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMOeDirsEQ&feature=youtu.be
And then, at the same time as that weird conspiracy, also demons are getting into shenanigans nearby, although I can't tell if you think that is directed at you or not. But ALSO, at the same time as both of those weird things, god is sending elevators and freezing warm water because it's apparently very important to him, the creator of the universe, that you specifically believe in him and catholic dogma. He wants everyone else to take his existence on faith, but you specifically are so important he's sending you multiple signs.

That's a lot of weight to put on your own shoulders. You are one person, you're not responsible for all that shit, even if it was real.
I was an evangelist on this site, trying to convert people to Catholicism so I reasoned that God would want to show me signs so that I could be converted so that I could convert others.
 
I suppose that I could be devoutly practice Catholicism just in case it is real, but that would mean that I am forbidden to masturbate because it is a mortal sin. Should I repress my sexual urges for something that may not be real?
Uhh... jeez man, even most actively practicing catholics don't think they'll go to hell for masturbating.

I meet with a therapist once a week and talk about things that have been going on, so I will discuss this in my next appointment.
This is good, and please do. Tell him about the aliens and god and the king of england. They're not gonna lock you away for thinking weird shit, and you're not planning to hurt anyone(right?), so you don't have to worry about saying something and getting yourself into trouble or something.

You're an intelligent young man at the age where the brain sometimes gets squirrely. This is honestly the best time to figure this stuff out. And I'm an internet weirdo, so while I think I'm right, I cannot diagnose or treat anything, I could be entirely wrong about everything.
 
Hey @Jacob Harrison, do you know what alternate history is? It's basically where you take a historical event and go "what if it happened differently." The classic example is what if the Nazis won WWII. You could write a novel about what would have happened if the rightful king stayed on the throne. How would history be different? What would the world look like in this time?
 
Hey @Jacob Harrison, do you know what alternate history is? It's basically where you take a historical event and go "what if it happened differently." The classic example is what if the Nazis won WWII. You could write a novel about what would have happened if the rightful king stayed on the throne. How would history be different? What would the world look like in this time?
Yes. I already figured out how history would be like if the rightful king stayed on the throne. The world would be a better place.

So let’s say that Richard II was able to crush Henry of Bolingbroke’s rebellion. Henry is beheaded.

Therefore Richard II would have eventually had sons so the senior branch of the House of Plantagenet would continue.

Since Richard II made a truce with France, it would be likely there would be a permanent peace treaty where Richard II would receive the Duchy of Aquitaine.

With England and France making peace, they would go on a joint crusade which could have liberated the Holy Land and prevented the Ottoman Turks from rising to prominence which could have saved Constantinople.

Since Henry VIII would never have existed, England would never have had a Protestant reformation. Therefore the various Protestant sects that came as a result of the English reformation would never exist. There would never be those Evangelical megachurch cult leaders or Young Earth fucktards since Young Earthism is mainly a Protestant thing.

Since Richard II consolidated power towards the end of his reign, becoming an absolute monarch, England would be an absolute monarchy since the overthrow of Richard II was the thing that set the precedent for England becoming a more constitutional monarchy.

Therefore there never would have been an English Civil War and Glorious Revolution that established Parliamentary Supremecy. Therefore there would never have been the revolutionary ideas that inspired the French Revolution which caused the Napoleonic Wars.

Therefore Karl Marx would never have been inspired by these revolutions to create the horrible ideology of Comminism that killed millions of people.

The Napoleonic Wars changed the order of Europe and caused a chain of events that led to World War I which led to Hitler’s rise to power and World War II. Therefore, there never would have been the 2 World Wars and the Holocaust would never have happened.

I have a ghost detecting app. In the mornings at school, at the location in the hallway where the janitor used to walk by, the app has been sending me alerts that a ghost has been detected nearby. Does this mean that the janitor was murdered and that his spirit is in the state of purgatory, wandering the school until he can be cleansed of his sins and enter heaven?

This is another things that is making me consider reconverting to Catholicism. An additional thing that is making me consider the possibility of purgatory is hearing something on the news of a ghost siting in a Market Basket in Massachusetts. If these things are true, then purgatory is real. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.today.com/today/amp/tdna151126

@Corbin Dallas Multipass I talked to my therapist and he asked me if I was hearing voices in my head or if the things were causing me extreme anxiety. I said no. He said that since I consider the supernatural explanations for these things to just be hypothetical possibilities, I am not mentally ill.

I was researching American history and I discovered shocking information. As you know, I am a believer in legitimacy. The United States is a legitimate sovereign nation because they gained independence from the illegitimate British Empire and was recognized by the legitimate governments of other nations such as France.

The original document of the US government was the Articles of Confederation which was replaced by the Constitution. I did research on the articles and found this.

Article XIII. Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.

And here is the shocking thing. The Constitution was ratified by state ratifying conventions, not the legislatures of every state. This means that it was never legally implemented. The entire Federal Government since 1789 has been illegitimate. The Continental Congress is supposed to be the legitimate Federal Government.

Therefore, my society that plans to restore the true heir to the English throne is also going to infiltrate the state and Federal governments in order to pass an amendment that will restore the Articles of Confederation.

This also means that all treaties made after the implementation of the Constitution where the US expanded it's territory from sea to shining sea, is invalid because it wasn't made by the Continental Congress. Therefore, there should only be the 13 original states and the Northwest territory.
 
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@Corbin Dallas Multipass I talked to my therapist and he asked me if I was hearing voices in my head or if the things were causing me extreme anxiety. I said no. He said that since I consider the supernatural explanations for these things to just be hypothetical possibilities, I am not mentally ill.
Oh well ok then, I'll shut up about it.

Ghosts aren't real, silly. Ghost detecting apps are fake. What sensor on your phone would even detect ghosts? What do ghosts have to do with purgatory? Purgatory is supposed to be like a temporary hell, not just boring old earth.

Also, the US didn't get legitimacy from France, we got it from the barrel of the guns we used to chase the english away. OK ok France helped...
 
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Oh well ok then, I'll shut up about it.

Ghosts aren't real, silly. Ghost detecting apps are fake. What sensor on your phone would even detect ghosts? What do ghosts have to do with purgatory? Purgatory is supposed to be like a temporary hell, not just boring old earth.

Also, the US didn't get legitimacy from France, we got it from the barrel of the guns we used to chase the english away. OK ok France helped...
EMF sensors are used by paranormal investigators to allegedly detect ghosts. And while Heaven and Hell are places, purgatory has been defined as an intermediate state of existence where souls undergo purification. Therefore, if the existence of earthbound ghosts can be proven, it would therefore prove that such an intermediate state exists, since the ghosts have not yet crossed over to heaven. Many Catholics have reported seeing ghosts of loved ones asking for prayers.
 
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EMF sensors are used by paranormal investigators to allegedly detect ghosts. And while Heaven and Hell are places, purgatory has been defined as an intermediate state of existence where souls undergo purification. Therefore, if the existence of earthbound ghosts can be proven, it would therefore prove that such an intermediate state exists, since the ghosts have not yet crossed over to heaven. Many Catholics have reported seeing ghosts of loved ones asking for prayers.
Allegedly is right... It's a funny coincidence the ghosts are always hanging out around electrical outlets...

I mean, emf noise is everywhere there are electronics, so of course you're going to sense EMF activity, and it's going to be stronger in specific places. But uh.... I'm sure plenty has already been written on that subject.

I'm not quite following your logic though. Certainly Christianity is not the only mythology that includes a place for ghosts, even if they were real, so why would proving the existence of ghosts prove Christianity, specifically Catholicism, to be true? What about all the pagan religions with ghosts?

And yeah, many catholics have reported seeing ghosts. Many people in general. Also aliens, bigfoot, demons... people have claimed to see a lot of things that can't be verified.
 
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Allegedly is right... It's a funny coincidence the ghosts are always hanging out around electrical outlets...

I mean, emf noise is everywhere there are electronics, so of course you're going to sense EMF activity, and it's going to be stronger in specific places. But uh.... I'm sure plenty has already been written on that subject.
I'm not quite following your logic though. Certainly Christianity is not the only mythology that includes a place for ghosts, even if they were real, so why would proving the existence of ghosts prove Christianity, specifically Catholicism, to be true? What about all the pagan religions with ghosts?

And yeah, many catholics have reported seeing ghosts. Many people in general. Also aliens, bigfoot, demons... people have claimed to see a lot of things that can't be verified.
Good point about EMF detectors.

The pagan religions believe that ghosts live in another realm. The Ancient Greeks called it Hades.

Catholicism is the only religion that believes in an intermediate state called purgatory which explains the phenomena of ghosts that haunt locations on Earth.

While many people who see strange things have mental illness, there are many sane people who claim to have seen ghosts. As I said before in an earlier comment, this Massachusetts Market Basket Employee is an example. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.today.com/today/amp/tdna151126
 
Good point about EMF detectors.

The pagan religions believe that ghosts live in another realm. The Ancient Greeks called it Hades.

Catholicism is the only religion that believes in an intermediate state called purgatory which explains the phenomena of ghosts that haunt locations on Earth.

While many people who see strange things have mental illness, there are many sane people who claim to have seen ghosts. As I said before in an earlier comment, this Massachusetts Market Basket Employee is an example. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.today.com/today/amp/tdna151126
Well, we all have our own definitions of mental illness I suppose. But yeah, there are lots of people capable of living their lives without extra assistance that believe in ghosts.

You're making a hell of a sweeping statement there, the ancient greeks don't represent all non-christian religions. For example, don't some american indian traditional beliefs include visits from dead ancestors?
 
Well, we all have our own definitions of mental illness I suppose. But yeah, there are lots of people capable of living their lives without extra assistance that believe in ghosts.

You're making a hell of a sweeping statement there, the ancient greeks don't represent all non-christian religions. For example, don't some american indian traditional beliefs include visits from dead ancestors?
I looked it up and it is true that it is part of traditional american indian religion that the dead are among us.

However in more recent times, paranormal experts think that there are two types of ghosts, ghosts who have crossed over into the light and those who have not. They conclude that the ghosts who have gone into the light are spirit guides and messengers who occasionally visit Earth which sounds like the Catholic concept of saints and that ghosts who have not gone into the light are the ones that haunt specific places on Earth. The idea of an intermediate state for ghosts who have not yet gone into the light sounds exactly like the Catholic doctrine of purgatory, a state where souls must spend time before being allowed into heaven.

As for the Market Basket siting, many people have reported seeing the same thing that the employee did. What could be causing this?

Hundreds of people commented on her post, many claiming they had seen someone — or something — similar. A few even supported her experience — speculating that perhaps the ghost was meant only for Bush to see. But many others in the group were very dubious and made fun of her vision.

The corporate spokesperson for Market Basket jokingly told TODAY, "As far as we know all of our stores are ghost-free. But if there’s anything to it, she’s probably attracted to our Victorian-era prices.” Market Basket is known for its frequent sales and very cheap produce.

One person in the group did identify a ghost similar to Bush's description, however, at her home on Clark Street, not far from the grounds of the Market Basket store.
 
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Did they all independently report seeing the ghost, or did they say "Oh me too" after she said it? People like to jump on trends, and some are extremely suggestible and will believe they've seen a ghost. Lots of people will tell you there's a ghost of a dead kid in the window on some weird comedy movie (I wish I could remember the name). Anyway, as it turns out, the kid in the window was actually a real live kid and not a ghost. Sort of a shit story without remembering the name of the movie, sorry, hopefully this loose description will jog someone's memory.

I know a dude, 30 years older than me or so, who swears, absolutely positively swears, he was playing with a ouiji board in the closet with his sister, and then a skateboard started flying around in the closet and they ran away. He honestly believes a ghost or demon or something was summoned by the Milton Bradley Ouiji Board, and that ghost or demon decided it would be fun to play with a skateboard. I suggest they were just jumpy and knocked the skateboard off a shelf or something, but in the end we just disagree.
 
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Did they all independently report seeing the ghost, or did they say "Oh me too" after she said it? People like to jump on trends, and some are extremely suggestible and will believe they've seen a ghost. Lots of people will tell you there's a ghost of a dead kid in the window on some weird comedy movie (I wish I could remember the name). Anyway, as it turns out, the kid in the window was actually a real live kid and not a ghost. Sort of a shit story without remembering the name of the movie, sorry, hopefully this loose description will jog someone's memory.

I know a dude, 30 years older than me or so, who swears, absolutely positively swears, he was playing with a ouiji board in the closet with his sister, and then a skateboard started flying around in the closet and they ran away. He honestly believes a ghost or demon or something was summoned by the Milton Bradley Ouiji Board, and that ghost or demon decided it would be fun to play with a skateboard. I suggest they were just jumpy and knocked the skateboard off a shelf or something, but in the end we just disagree.
Good point. As for the man who had the ouija board incident, did it cause him to convert to Christianity? The alleged supernatural events caused by Ouija boards are considered proof of demons which would prove Christianity. Christianity forbids the use of Ouija boards because Christians think that they actually do summon demons or damned souls.
 
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Did the incident cause him to convert to Christianity? The alleged supernatural events caused by Ouija boards are considered proof of demons which would prove Christianity. Christianity forbids the use of Ouija boards because Christians think that they actually do summon demons.
No, he was born into a catholic christian family, but never took it very seriously. Essentially, he half believes some of the superstitions and is kind of afraid of them. Like he's afraid of 666 or 999, to the point where he'll use 998998998 to make a big number instead of all 9s...

Sort of like George Costanza from Seinfeld. He only believes in the bad stuff.

Do you think Ouiji boards manufactured by board game companies are somehow demonic? Like... you know they don't have witches back in a room making those things, they make em just like monopoly.
 
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No, he was born into a catholic christian family, but never took it very seriously. Essentially, he half believes some of the superstitions and is kind of afraid of them. Like he's afraid of 666 or 999, to the point where he'll use 998998998 to make a big number instead of all 9s...

Sort of like George Costanza from Seinfeld. He only believes in the bad stuff.

Do you think Ouiji boards manufactured by board game companies are somehow demonic? Like... you know they don't have witches back in a room making those things, they make em just like monopoly.
As I said, I am agnostic, stuck somewhere between belief and disbelief. Christians believe that the fact Ouija boards are designed for the purpose of summoning spirits, makes demons attracted to them. I have seen youtube videos of Ouija boards going wrong. Unlike the guy you know, and George Costanza, I am too logical to arbitrarily believe in some things and not others. Why does he think that the number 999 is demonic? It is the inversion of 666 but so are the words god and dog.
 
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As I said, I am agnostic, stuck somewhere between belief and disbelief. Christians believe that the fact Ouija boards are designed for the purpose of summoning spirits, makes demons attracted to them. I have seen youtube videos of Ouija boards going wrong. Unlike the guy you know, and George Costanza, I am too logical to arbitrarily believe in some things and not others. Why does he think that the number 999 is demonic? It is the inversion of 666 but so are the words god and dog.
Like I said, it's basically superstition, it doesn't really make sense. He doesn't even intellectually believe in demons, but he's still superstitiously afraid of them, if you know what I mean. Sort of "just in case" i guess?

So you think there's evidence of demons on youtube?
 
Like I said, it's basically superstition, it doesn't really make sense. He doesn't even intellectually believe in demons, but he's still superstitiously afraid of them, if you know what I mean. Sort of "just in case" i guess?

So you think there's evidence of demons on youtube?
I went to look for an example of a video showing evidence of demons and I found this one showing 10 different ouija board incidents caught on tape. They show evidence of demons and damned souls being summoned. The last clip is the scariest and it has made me a full believer because there is no other explanation for what happened to those schoolchildren in Peru. This proves that Christianity is true and the fact that Catholic priests seem to do the best at performing exorcisms indicate that the Catholic Church is the true church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3dZYuFopY

Yet at the same time, the evidence Fagatron showed me against papal infallibility makes me not know what to believe!
 
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