Jake Paul & Logan Paul - Youtuber, Viner, Team 10, Former Disney Star, Expert Doxxer

[MichałDrzymała]

I've seen all of his videos on this and it seems like a legitimate business idea.

No offense, man, but I think we found the target audience for Cryptozoo lmfao.

 

[3rdAccountFuckEmail.com]

Coffeezilla heard his videos would be heard in court and said bet and will release a 5 hour video on why logan paul is gay with so much evidence that the judge will force him to wear a pink star

 

[Chongqing]

No offense, man, but I think we found the target audience for Cryptozoo lmfao.

I kind of see it as the same as TY Beanie Babies. I definitely don't want to buy it because they're worthless and dumb, but they're presented to the public as something that's a good investment and not dumb. People actually bought books in the 1990s that would list out how much return on investment a buyer would be getting in 2008 for their special edition Princess Diana Beanie Babie, and it would be promises of insane amounts of money. It was very similar to buying a shitcoin, but instead of just speculation, you had a company hammering home the idea of, "You will make money, guaranteed, and this is how much money you will make and when."

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

All the clueless posts talking mostly about non relevant CryptoZoo issues without watching the video.
In the video it's stated that Logan Paul is most likely bringing the CryptoZoo defamation lawsuit just to prevent Coffeezilla from talking about Logan's newest venture, Liquid Marketplace that got sued by Ontario Securities Commission for fraud.




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Liquid MarketPlace is the thing that needs way more scrutiny now.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

The Paul brothers are so interchangeable that the featured section listed the wrong one at first.
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Logan Paul is the bigger asshole, while Jake Paul is the dumber asshole.

 

[Northern Blockhead]

Coffeezilla responds to Logan Paul's lawsuit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogtrkO1iqFU

Interview with Graham archive

I find it rather peculiar that the lawsuit was filed in The District of West Texas, as San Antonio, Coffee's current residence, is located within that District. Wouldn't it have made more sense to file it in California? Where I believe Logan Paul currently lives?

 

[Snack Cracker]

I kind of see it as the same as TY Beanie Babies. I definitely don't want to buy it because they're worthless and dumb, but they're presented to the public as something that's a good investment and not dumb. People actually bought books in the 1990s that would list out how much return on investment a buyer would be getting in 2008 for their special edition Princess Diana Beanie Babie, and it would be promises of insane amounts of money. It was very similar to buying a shitcoin, but instead of just speculation, you had a company hammering home the idea of, "You will make money, guaranteed, and this is how much money you will make and when."

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

It’s funny you mention the Princess Diana beanie baby, was antiquing recently and saw one in a plastic beanie baby case with a tag protector.
$40, it was hilarious and almost took a picture to show my dad that they were an investment after all (kidding, that was a 90’s money dump).

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

I find it rather peculiar that the lawsuit was filed in The District of West Texas, as San Antonio, Coffee's current residence, is located within that District. Wouldn't it have made more sense to file it in California? Where I believe Logan Paul currently lives?

I would assume that since he's accusing Coffee, it would make sense to sue him in his homestate. I think it would also cut down on having to go back and forth to California (for Coffee)

 

[Not A Cat Person]

I kind of see it as the same as TY Beanie Babies. I definitely don't want to buy it because they're worthless and dumb, but they're presented to the public as something that's a good investment and not dumb. People actually bought books in the 1990s that would list out how much return on investment a buyer would be getting in 2008 for their special edition Princess Diana Beanie Babie, and it would be promises of insane amounts of money. It was very similar to buying a shitcoin, but instead of just speculation, you had a company hammering home the idea of, "You will make money, guaranteed, and this is how much money you will make and when."

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

Now imagine, instead of owning Beanie Babies, you own a piece of paper that says that you own a portion of a Beanie Baby that you have never seen with your own eyes before, and that the value of that piece of paper is linked to the price of the Beanie Baby- basically buying stock in a Beanie Baby instead of just owning the Beanie Baby.

That's Liquid Marketplace.

 

[MichałDrzymała]

I kind of see it as the same as TY Beanie Babies. I definitely don't want to buy it because they're worthless and dumb, but they're presented to the public as something that's a good investment and not dumb. People actually bought books in the 1990s that would list out how much return on investment a buyer would be getting in 2008 for their special edition Princess Diana Beanie Babie, and it would be promises of insane amounts of money. It was very similar to buying a shitcoin, but instead of just speculation, you had a company hammering home the idea of, "You will make money, guaranteed, and this is how much money you will make and when."

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

Logan Paul wasn't selling a product but a promise that you would make money while playing his dumbass game. He was selling the modern equivalent of snake oil and that is a scam. You didn't even get a Beanie Baby, which was at least a physical item, with Cryptozoo.

 

[AnOminous]

Coffeezilla responds to Logan Paul's lawsuit.

The lawsuit:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68891856/paul-v-findeisen/

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172793701/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172793701.1.0.pdf

I find it rather peculiar that the lawsuit was filed in The District of West Texas, as San Antonio, Coffee's current residence, is located within that District. Wouldn't it have made more sense to file it in California? Where I believe Logan Paul currently lives?

You mean the state with the most vicious anti-SLAPP law in the country? When the Fifth Circuit has conclusively ruled that Texas's anti-SLAPP law doesn't apply in cases under diversity jurisdiction?

I mean Logan Paul is stupid but I don't think he's THAT stupid. Or at least his lawyers aren't.

So was it a scam, or was it a business venture that failed?

It was a scam that failed.

I note the answer, posted a couple pages up, claims Paul didn't comply with the Texas Defamation Mitigation Act. You can't pursue a defamation claim in Texas without doing that, so if that's true, this is stillborn.

My only real objection is why file an answer before a 12(b)(6)? There might be some strategic reason for it, like Zilla wants to get straight to discovery to humiliate this retard and monetize it, although a motion to dismiss would avoid that if successful.

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

When it's a financial commodity subject to regulation by the SEC and/or CFTC (and they seem to think so although this is somewhat questionable). Yes.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

I kind of see it as the same as TY Beanie Babies. I definitely don't want to buy it because they're worthless and dumb, but they're presented to the public as something that's a good investment and not dumb. People actually bought books in the 1990s that would list out how much return on investment a buyer would be getting in 2008 for their special edition Princess Diana Beanie Babie, and it would be promises of insane amounts of money. It was very similar to buying a shitcoin, but instead of just speculation, you had a company hammering home the idea of, "You will make money, guaranteed, and this is how much money you will make and when."

Is selling a product that's dumb and worthless a scam? I don't think so.

I think lying to someone about some benefit they will receive in exchange for consideration (usually financial) to you is actually the definition of a scam?

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

Logan Paul is the bigger asshole, while Jake Paul is the dumber asshole.

and beats up old assholes

 

[Irene and 22 others]

Now imagine, instead of owning Beanie Babies, you own a piece of paper that says that you own a portion of a Beanie Baby that you have never seen with your own eyes before, and that the value of that piece of paper is linked to the price of the Beanie Baby- basically buying stock in a Beanie Baby instead of just owning the Beanie Baby.

That's Liquid Marketplace.

I always wanted to make an NFT for NFTs. After all, what's better than owning a piece of paper that says you own a portion of something? Why owning a piece of paper that says you own a different piece of paper that says you own a portion of something! That something could even be another piece of paper saying you own a portion of something.

 

[Chongqing]

Logan Paul wasn't selling a product but a promise that you would make money while playing his dumbass game. He was selling the modern equivalent of snake oil and that is a scam. You didn't even get a Beanie Baby, which was at least a physical item, with Cryptozoo.

Not to get too off topic, but the concept of "selling a (physical) product" doesn't actually make cryptozoo different than TY Beanie Babies.

Purchasing TY Beanie Babies was buying in to the promise that you would make guaranteed amounts of money on a guaranteed schedule.

When we got to 2004 and no one wanted a Beanie Baby, which dropped the value of one of them down to zero, no investors were still happy with their purchases and telling themselves, "Hey at least I still have this creepy collection of stuffed toys made in a sweatshop in Dong Guang that smell terrible and cost 10 cents to make."

If someone were to buy any digital product pertaining to cryptozoo (whether it was a neopet, a shitcoin, or whatever, I'm not sure how it was supposed to work), they could print out their receipt for that purchase. The computer file of their receipt is equally useful and enjoyable an item to possess as any Beanie Baby product was back then.

The only difference was one business boomed into temporary success while the other crashed and burned.

People in today's day and age have a tendancy to look at a problem that's been around for a long time and see it as completely novel if it now involves computers and technology.

I remember over a decade ago, the media was freaking out about bitcoin and how it's "an untracable currency used by criminals for drug purchases and paying for the comission of crimes." The most widely used untracable currency used in crime is still cash money, but no one is alarmed about the availability of cash.

It's kind of like that.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

People in today's day and age have a tendancy to look at a problem that's been around for a long time and see it as completely novel if it now involves computers and technology.

Sure but you didn't say "this is a form of financial malfeasance which has been around for a long time in a superficially new form" you said it was a legitimate business which happened to fail.

Acknowledging that there are well known historical examples of this business model making money at the expense of the customer by deceiving them doesn't help that case. Additionally, while I wasn't around at the time it is my perception that a large portion of the hype around beanie babies was a publicly spread rumor created by speculators, which is meaningfully distinct from Logan Paul doing a series of ad reads where he says his product will make you a return on investment if you give him money.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

As long as I can get my Prime Goonerfuel, I don’t care what sideshow happens

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Now imagine, instead of owning Beanie Babies, you own a piece of paper that says that you own a portion of a Beanie Baby that you have never seen with your own eyes before, and that the value of that piece of paper is linked to the price of the Beanie Baby- basically buying stock in a Beanie Baby instead of just owning the Beanie Baby.

That's Liquid Marketplace.

Imagine being sold a fraction of a worthless item and thinking it's precious. Crypto bros are so fucking dumb.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Imagine being sold a fraction of a worthless item and thinking it's precious. Crypto bros are so fucking dumb.

Crypto bros once spent $3mil on a super rare Dune artbook (which was 100x the pre-auction estimate), because they intended to turn it into NFT's, burn the physical copy and make it into an animated series. Except they hadn't bought the rights or anything, it was literally just a copy of a book.

 

[Oil Olive]

This lawsuit just goes to show that the Paul brother's are always trying to find a new way of being the weekly villain of the internet