James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

Homer J. Fong said:
It's especially hard to muster up the interest in going to the theater when it feels like movies come out to Streaming a month or two after release.

Last film I saw in a movie theater was Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, and that's pre-covid. Not to mention I have a big 4K TV and while a massive film theater is still the best way to watch a classic it's not like the old days when we were watching shit on a 480p TV set.
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Yeah, especially handicapping for shitty theater equipment home viewings are a lot more attractive than back in the day
 
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Raging Capybara said:
They are predicting 135k for its opening weekend, it's kinda bad, I guess?

There's no way to spin it as not a flop.
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You can trick people into watching softcore sci-fi furry porn once but not twice I guess.

The blue avatar cat things should have been in a movie for no more than five minutes, they are the "peaceful" alien race that gets wiped out by some other monster to establish the threat of the movie.
 
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WhiskeyJack said:
The only film to ever truly impress me with CGI FX was Jurassic Park, which I saw about 10 times in theaters back in '93. It looked real, and a huge departure from the decades of super-imposed lizards with shit glued to their heads I was used to. And even then, half the FX were animatronics or men in Raptor suits.
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I'll say the T-rex scene in the first JP is probably the best FX in history, practical and CGI. People would go just for that. I'll never forget the flat-out gasps when the first brachiosaurus came on. People hadn't seen anything even close to that. That shot aged, but it was so incredible. I've only heard audible gasps from FX audience one other time, and I don't remember what it was from.

Never got close to that with Avatar. And this one we've seen before. I mean the water stuff is great, but really... I could tell by the first screenshots A2 wasn't going to be good.
 
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mlanguishi said:
I'll say the T-rex scene in the first JP is probably the best FX in history, practical and CGI. People would go just for that. I'll never forget the flat-out gasps when the first brachiosaurus came on. People hadn't seen anything even close to that. That shot aged, but it was so incredible. I've only heard audible gasps from FX audience one other time, and I don't remember what it was from.

Never got close to that with Avatar. And this one we've seen before. I mean the water stuff is great, but really... I could tell by the first screenshots A2 wasn't going to be good.
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I'd say the CG in Son of the Mask still ages much better than Avatar, and that came out almost five years prior.
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I am genuinely surprised Cameron managed to con executives into funding not only a sequel, but three sequels, to such an empty film with nothing of substance. It was pretty, sure, but it wasn't that interesting and the only people I cared about or supported were the humans I was supposed to think are evil colonizers nd sheeeit. Jake Sully is a race traitor who screws his entire species over for some space cat puss puss, the environmental message was about as well crafted as the average Captain Planet episode, and the whole "beautiful" planet started to blend into a whole lot of CGI nothing without any real lore development or interesting plot to keep you engaged. The fact I was genuinely upset when evil human general man lost and died, and the space smurfs used the power of wahminz and hippies to save the day I rolled my eyes, and that was back when I was much more "progressive" and tolerant of that kind of heavy handed propaganda.

Add in Cameron sperging out over how ebul men are and that it sounds boring, and I doubt I'll even pirate it. Hopefully it bombs hard, I want Disney to flounder.
 
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I wonder how much they paid critical and all these youtube reviewers to rant about how great it looks and how 'impossible' it is. I looked it over, nothing really blew me away. CGI water isn't new.

If anyone can point to a really groundbreaking scene please timecode it. Maybe I missed it.
 
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Fount of BadSpeak said:
I am genuinely surprised Cameron managed to con executives into funding not only a sequel, but three sequels, to such an empty film with nothing of substance. It was pretty, sure, but it wasn't that interesting and the only people I cared about or supported were the humans I was supposed to think are evil colonizers nd sheeeit. Jake Sully is a race traitor who screws his entire species over for some space cat puss puss, the environmental message was about as well crafted as the average Captain Planet episode, and the whole "beautiful" planet started to blend into a whole lot of CGI nothing without any real lore development or interesting plot to keep you engaged. The fact I was genuinely upset when evil human general man lost and died, and the space smurfs used the power of wahminz and hippies to save the day I rolled my eyes, and that was back when I was much more "progressive" and tolerant of that kind of heavy handed propaganda.

Add in Cameron sperging out over how ebul men are and that it sounds boring, and I doubt I'll even pirate it. Hopefully it bombs hard, I want Disney to flounder.
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It wasn't the first time he pulled this trick. He admitted in interviews that he only did Titanic to have Fox fund his exploration of the wreckage.
 
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WhiskeyJack said:
The only film to ever truly impress me with CGI FX was Jurassic Park, which I saw about 10 times in theaters back in '93. It looked real,
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JP holds up quite well even to this day. As a matter of fact, it still looks convincing and a million times better than Jurassic World. It boggles my mind why practical effects are neglected. They look phenomenal, when supported by CGI, but pure CGI always looks fake as fuck. I doubt it is a money issue, since these big name movies tend to have astronomical budgets. Ironically, smaller projects, with less monetary resources, tend to use practical effects and end up looking great. I would think building a huge animatronic dinosaur, machine, or alien creature is a hell of a lot more expensive, than a bunch of nerds fucking around in Blender, or whatever they use, to create 3D models.
 
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Fount of BadSpeak said:
I am genuinely surprised Cameron managed to con executives into funding not only a sequel, but three sequels, to such an empty film with nothing of substance. It was pretty, sure, but it wasn't that interesting and the only people I cared about or supported were the humans I was supposed to think are evil colonizers nd sheeeit. Jake Sully is a race traitor who screws his entire species over for some space cat puss puss, the environmental message was about as well crafted as the average Captain Planet episode, and the whole "beautiful" planet started to blend into a whole lot of CGI nothing without any real lore development or interesting plot to keep you engaged. The fact I was genuinely upset when evil human general man lost and died, and the space smurfs used the power of wahminz and hippies to save the day I rolled my eyes, and that was back when I was much more "progressive" and tolerant of that kind of heavy handed propaganda.

Add in Cameron sperging out over how ebul men are and that it sounds boring, and I doubt I'll even pirate it. Hopefully it bombs hard, I want Disney to flounder.
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Fallacy of sunk costs. Fox/Disney should have shelved this fiasco when Cameron couldn't commit to a 2015 release date.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Actually that raises a point, Cameron shittalks man but creates entire films idolising hunter gatherers as Ubermensch despite being the most sexist societies in human history that are entirely built on the concept of strength.
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But you see, Na'vi women are just as stronk and capable, if not more, than Na'vi men.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Actually that raises a point, Cameron shittalks man but creates entire films idolising hunter gatherers as Ubermensch despite being the most sexist societies in human history that are entirely built on the concept of strength.
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inb4 "the na'vi males actually cut off their dicks and drain their testosterone" or "females have super special pussy pussy powers"
 
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