James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

Does Cameron plan to self-immolate after Avatar 3 bombs? Will any company allow him to handle a budget ever again? I don't see him making a small-scale film. It is surely 'beneath' his supposed genius and fart-huffing ways.
If Cameron was forced to only be able to make movies with budgets that don't exceed 60 million maybe we'd get a good James Cameron movie for the first time in over two decades.

Unfortunately I think what will happen if Avatar 3 flops worse than Avatar 2 is Cameron will basically retire, and spend the rest of his days in a personal Avatar VR world created just for himself jerking off to 7 foot tall blue cat people all day long.
 
Anyway, an interesting subplot would be a group of Na'vi who decide that they admire the technology and tools that the humans have and then they start abandoning traditional Na'vi culture...which brings them into conflict with both humans and other Na'vi.
>Implying James Cameron has something interesting to say about his computer generated space kitties, when his first movie was so dumb and lazy it included a MacGuffin called 'unobtanium' and the entire Earth military plotline was vintage seethe about George Dubya Bush that already felt dated in 2009. :shit-eating:
 
>Implying James Cameron has something interesting to say about his computer generated space kitties, when his first movie was so dumb and lazy it included a MacGuffin called 'unobtanium' and the entire Earth military plotline was vintage seethe about George Dubya Bush that already felt dated in 2009. :shit-eating:
And then ranting about whaling when that was relevant in 2008-2010. Not to say it doesn't happen still but there are more prevalent environmental issues involving the ocean.
 
havent read the other posts and wont, bite me

movie was mid as fuck, good effects and whatever but you cant just cram a trilogy worth story into a 3 hour movie while not explaining half the fucking lore and expect me to keep up with it

other complaints incluuuuuuuuuuuude, the movie feeling like a kids movie. Wow the guy died very fucking sad, literally had zero effect on me or anyone in the theater, no ohh noooo or sad sounds, complete silence. I dont know what my nigga James was thinking but that shit was complete ass. Everything was so fucking predictable, and I dont understand the almost fairytale concept like they invaded once before and still havent learned their lessons about warfare against the nigga vi? damn yeah very wholesome, fucking wish I could get my money back
 
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And then ranting about whaling when that was relevant in 2008-2010. Not to say it doesn't happen still but there are more prevalent environmental issues involving the ocean.
Its even more dated than that. "save the whales!" Was bog standard eco-freak material in the 70s and 80s (remember the plot to Star Trek IV?) to the point where it was dated during Futurama 's first run.

Bringing it back now is a reference as dated as global cooling.

Also, do the humans at any point attempt to make contact with the super organism? They know it exists and can essentially root kit any lifeform it can directly interface with, seems important.
 
Saw it today since the Mrs wanted to go.

It's OK, but really needed to be reworked in a few areas. So much of humanity returning is just glossed over and should have been a WAY bigger deal. Ending is far too long and could have been condensed. The stakes are strangely low key after the first one. (Also the water tribe up and disappears for a large segment of it.) Best lulz part of the movie was the tribal chief giving the long pretentious speech about not killing, even if they are deserving, but then going full "let's kill" before the final battle.

Also, the hivemind/neural link could be an amazing twist if it was actually sentient and evil. It'll never happen, but God damn it's one of those amazing what-if theories.

Honestly, would probably have done better if it had come out 8 years ago. Looking like it'll flop since so much had to be spent on the effects budget.
 
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Its even more dated than that. "save the whales!" Was bog standard eco-freak material in the 70s and 80s (remember the plot to Star Trek IV?) to the point where it was dated during Futurama 's first run.

Bringing it back now is a reference as dated as global cooling.

Also, do the humans at any point attempt to make contact with the super organism? They know it exists and can essentially root kit any lifeform it can directly interface with, seems important.
Well it's because whaling was sort of relevant in the late 2000s with all those anti-whaling shows on TV.

Also the humans don't, and really they aren't smart enough to anyway given all they're doing in this movie is just space whaling and hunting one guy. They're as intelligent as the average captain planet villain
 
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China thinks it’s OK at best, while South Korea seems to like it.
 

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China thinks it’s OK at best, while South Korea seems to like it.

It was only approved for release in China just last month. MCU movies up until covid had secured a China release far in advance of that.
 
Just got back from seeing it. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Especially given all the talk Cameron was putting out. It only confirms to me that directors regardless of what is actually in their films have to pay lip service to certain things when doing interviews advertising it.

This one was more mediocre compared to the first film. The first film I would say was an overall decent flick that was viewed as a spectacle at the time of its release but has steadily been looked at as overhyped because of that. This one is slightly worse without the hype going into it. It had a lot of repeats of the first film that weren't as great this time around (trying to make the killing of the whale as big as the tree getting destroyed). Other repeats seemed lazy (forget that mineral, the new item the humans are after is brain matter from the whales!).

The CGI while good in some areas also looked worse compared to the first film (the opening scene with the forest getting lit on fire and all the animals from the first film being destroyed looked cheap). The final battle didn't really make sense and went on a little too long (there is all the Na'vi at first but for some reason Jake's family are the only ones fighting at the end). Certain things weren't explained (why were the adults having difficulty breathing underwater at the end but the children could do it with ease?) or didn't make sense (Grace's child literally bending the underwater plants to her whim to destroy the subs).

They are obviously setting things up for the third film where they will probably address some stuff that was in this. Given that they already finished filming it it probably will get released, but depending on how this one fares it might go straight to streaming.
 
Just got back from seeing it. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Especially given all the talk Cameron was putting out. It only confirms to me that directors regardless of what is actually in their films have to pay lip service to certain things when doing interviews advertising it.

This one was more mediocre compared to the first film. The first film I would say was an overall decent flick that was viewed as a spectacle at the time of its release but has steadily been looked at as overhyped because of that. This one is slightly worse without the hype going into it. It had a lot of repeats of the first film that weren't as great this time around (trying to make the killing of the whale as big as the tree getting destroyed). Other repeats seemed lazy (forget that mineral, the new item the humans are after is brain matter from the whales!).

The CGI while good in some areas also looked worse compared to the first film (the opening scene with the forest getting lit on fire and all the animals from the first film being destroyed looked cheap). The final battle didn't really make sense and went on a little too long (there is all the Na'vi at first but for some reason Jake's family are the only ones fighting at the end). Certain things weren't explained (why were the adults having difficulty breathing underwater at the end but the children could do it with ease?) or didn't make sense (Grace's child literally bending the underwater plants to her whim to destroy the subs).

They are obviously setting things up for the third film where they will probably address some stuff that was in this. Given that they already finished filming it it probably will get released, but depending on how this one fares it might go straight to streaming.
It's why it didn't need a sequel in the first place! James Cameron could have focused on making several new different films in the past decade, but no he had to make sequel's to a film that no one would care about over a decade later because he is obsessed with the fucking ocean.
 
It's why it didn't need a sequel in the first place! James Cameron could have focused on making several new different films in the past decade, but no he had to make sequel's to a film that no one would care about over a decade later because he is obsessed with the fucking ocean.
Remember: in an alternate universe we would have had an Alien film directed by Ridley Scott and written by Cameron that would have focused on the origin of the Alien. But noooooooo. AvP had to happen instead. :(
 
NB4 Covid is blamed for the film's poor box office. What's going to be the next excuse I wonder? Toxic white males on the internet?
Same sing and dance number over and over. Journos will point fingers without giving a proper conclusion. Oh, this movie or game or book or show failed because of incels, cis white males, racism or Russian hackers.
 
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