Law Jeff Sessions resigns as AG - To the surprise of no one, for those paying attention

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Jeff Sessions has resigned as attorney general effective immediately after being asked to do so by President Trump, sources told ABC News.

"At your request, I am submitting my resignation," Sessions wrote in an undated letter to the president.

"Since the day I was honored to be sworn in as Attorney General of the United States, I came to work at the Department of Jusitce every day determined to do my duty and serve my country," Sessions wrote. "I have done so to the best of my ability, working to support the fundamental legal processes that are the foundation of justice."
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Sessions' chief of staff Matthew Whitaker, a former United States attorney from Iowa, is going to be the acting AG for now.

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/30/jeff-sessions-safe-attorney-general-until-midterms/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-sessions-job-is-safe-until-at-least-november-elections
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/30/jeff-sessions-job-safe-until-the-midterms-trump-says

I remember hearing something about this in the past. Trump pretty much implied back in an Aug. 30th interview he was going to get rid of Sessions after the midterm elections. So this wasn't some spur of the moment thing.
 
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Big Bad Fish said:
The kvetching has begun
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Oh my God that is some Sovereign Citizen bullshit right there. "The letter is not dated! Who is the Corporation known as 'Jeff Sessions', and why isn't he conveying himself along the land? Define 'Driving' - that's not in the constitution! I don't consent to the corporation known as 'Jeff Sessions' resigning!"
 
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Oh my God that is some Sovereign Citizen bullshit right there. "The letter is not dated! Who is the Corporation known as 'Jeff Sessions', and why isn't he conveying himself along the land? Define 'Driving' - that's not in the constitution! I don't consent to the corporation known as 'Jeff Sessions' resigning!"
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REEEEEE! That flag has gold fringe on it which means it's an Admiralty Flag! Oh fuck, I didn't agree to my vessel entering this enclave! Wait, maybe that is how Hillary can still win! Disabled, Islamic, trans, POC women yall become this century's Betsy Ross (fuck that cracker bitch, probably owned slaves) and start sewing gold fringe on flags and we'll rush the White Black House. Fuck Blernold Kluvmf and matter of fact, fuck Hillary too! Let's install that openly lesbian, otherkin, Native American, ex-MMA Senator womxn as the president.

It scares me that I could easily picture some mentally ill queer space prince on tumblr posting that shit after they learned of the sovereign citizen movement. Oops, forgot to start it with...

TW: gold, slavery, wypipo shit
 
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It's HK-47 said:
That's a really long story, but I'll summarize it the best that I can.

He wasn't just appointed out of nowhere, he was with Trump all the way through his election campaign, and one of Sessions' trademarks when he worked as a prosecutor was that he was known as a "Silent Executioner." Investigations would go on for months and months and it would look like nothing was happening, and then with no warning whatsoever: Wham. Into a jail cell, or in some cases a straight-up death penalty.

Sessions has an unbelievable amount of skill in setting up sting operations and building airtight case files and then keeping it completely under wraps until it's time to prosecute. He may have immediately recused himself from all of these investigations right out of the gate, but that just prevented him from prosecuting any of the people involved. Those investigations kept going, though. They were passed off quietly to the OIG, and Jeff Sessions sat there smiling like the Keebler elf while everyone kept screaming at him.

Every single one of them that popped up, like the Clinton Foundation, the FISA warrants, McCabe, Comey, Clinton's email server, Fast & Furious, they all sprung out into the spotlight, made themselves known, and then just... Vanished. They didn't close, you'll notice. Not a single one of them resurfaced and said, "Nope. Nothin' there. Case closed." They just disappeared into the woodwork and Jeff Sessions pranced around on the stage and rambled incoherently about minor marijuana horseshit like nothing was happening at all. "Nothing to see here! I'm totally just asleep at the wheel! Even Trump hates me!"

Now we've got a new AG, and one who has repeatedly expressed interest in prosecuting Hillary Clinton, which alone is going to paint an enormous target on his back. He's not afraid to be unpopular and to take a whack at a hornet's nest, and he just walked into a room piled high with all of these investigations that have been going on for the better part of two years, investigations that most people have completely forgotten about.

Jeff Sessions did his part, but there's an incredibly long list of reasons that he needed to recuse himself, otherwise any "attack" that he made would have been seen (And rightfully so) through a hyper-partisan lens because of his proximity to Trump throughout his campaign. That kind of perceived partisanship would have completely destroyed any chance that these investigations had to secure a conviction, and they're only going to get one chance to drop the hammer on this.

I am intensely interested in seeing what Matthew Whitaker does with his turn in the seat. If he winds up being the permanent appointment, then we're going to see an unbelievable shit-storm kick off as all of these investigations enter the prosecution phase with a reinforced Senate to back him up, because he's going to be the man who starts the hunt for the "Sacred Cows" of the Democratic Party.


Edit: Don't forget that because Sessions was a part of the Trump campaign it's guaranteed that he was also the target of the illegal FISA warrants because of the "Three-Hop Rule." A victim of a crime cannot be the prosecutor for the crime. That's just one of the laundry list of reasons as to why Sessions had to dive off the stage the minute that he was appointed.
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Do note Trump's Press Conference today where he politely pointed out to the dem's that "Investigations go BOTH ways". Every one of the DEM and DNC Leadership is dirty. We know this. The DNC and Clinton openly comitted money laundering of $80 Million in Campaign contributions. This is a known fact at this point. It's been ignored because of the long standing Gentleman's Agreement in Washington of "You don't do exactly what the Dems are seeking to do." "You Ignore what I do, I ignore what you do, nothing to see here". When that rule of the jungle ends, it becomes open gang warfare. Right now Trump has the power and the Grand Jury.

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Didn't Rosenstein also have a meeting with Trump a few weeks ago, where it was highly speculated that he would be fired / asked to resign?
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Yep. For those that don't understand why Rosenstein would never ever be placed as Temporary AG, do note the whole 25th Amendment Kerfluffle. He is far more compromised than either the Senate or the President would allow. He may resign tomorrow. He may not. Either way he is at this point irrelevant.

Sweet and Savoury said:
Reddit is already having a meltdown over this

Front of all at +26,000 already.

Calling for a us wide massive protest tomorrow at 5 pm

Let's see who shows up for that.

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According to the talking heads of wisdom the new AG will kill the Mueller investigation and declare Trump free of all wrong doing becuase if course it works like that

God-damned can't Soros afford better shills?
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The acting AG doesn't need to "Kill" the Mueller investigation. Mueller only reported to Rosenstein because Sessions recused himself. With a new AG even simply an interim one, Mueller now works directly for him and ONLY reports to him. That's how it works. Rosenstein is out of the loop the moment Sessions resigned and Trump acted under the Federal Vacancies Act to name the temp replacement. (He really has made good use of that obscure law, hasn't he?) At this point Rosenstein does not even get to read Muellers report unless the new guy specifically permits him to. He cannot talk to Mueller without leave. Just as Sessions was a master of quietly burying ongoing investigations out of sight Whitaker can easily simply funnel Mueller into bureaucratic hell and starve the beast. Quietly limit it for resources and scope. While still keeping it "open". And Mueller CANNOT go before Congress, Mueller cannot leak anything. These are all highly illegal. Mueller is not a Special Prosecutor. Those were abolished by both the dem's and GOP following the Clinton Fiasco and a number of never ending messes preceding it.

Sessions may have been correct in a need to recuse himself. But he placed it too broadly. He lost control of the Justice Department as a result and lost the confidence of both the people and the Congress. He may be a great Prosecutor. He was a lousy AG. Sessions skill at quiet secret investigations out of the public eye is NOT a good skill in an AG. At the AG level Justice must be seen and transparent. Sessions was the other thing. Which is where so many of our problems stem from. Weirdly while he could often seem like a pompous conservative christian nut, John Ashcroft was a remarkably effective AG for many of the same reasons that Sessions was not.
 
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"How dare you criticize a government official! This is unprecedented and uncalled for, a complete dereliction of sanity!"
"Investigate Kavanaugh's fart jokes! Everyone in this administration is a blood-thirsty criminal! IMPEACH TRUMP!"

Also do you really, really want to drag a Senate confirmation into this? ... Has anyone told Feinstein how the midterm elections went in the Senate, yet?
 
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It's HK-47 said:
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"How dare you criticize a government official! This is unprecedented and uncalled for, a complete dereliction of sanity!"
"Investigate Kavanaugh's fart jokes! Everyone in this administration is a blood-thirsty criminal! IMPEACH TRUMP!"

Also do you really, really want to drag a Senate confirmation into this? ... Has anyone told Feinstein how the midterm elections went in the Senate, yet?
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Reminder, Feinstein got someone killed (and his fiancee raped and beaten) because she HAD to blab about evidence in an ongoing serial killer investigation.
 
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So Whitaker has full and unfettered access to any and all current findings made by the special council, correct?
 
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So Whitaker has full and unfettered access to any and all current findings made by the special council, correct?
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Yup. Plus whatever Sessions was working on.

Which could range from 'high score in Freecell' to 'neatly itemized dossiers designed to buttfuck the major Dem players'. As @It's HK-47 has noted, Sessions had a reputation for running silent until the hammer came down. That point about FISA, and the three hop rule... I hadn't considered that.

This could get interesting.
 
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I think the whole situation just got very interesting. Whittaker is now in place to drop a hammer whenever things are ready. Everyone is going to be too busy screeching away about how he's going to cancel the Mueller investigaton.

Smart money says you keep that doubt going to keep everyone distracted. Then drop as much as possible in a single day. Overwhelm the MSM, hit them all in a single big ass day and watch the meltdowns happen as Trump drains the swamp in a single go.

It seems that simple voting has done a surprising amount of republican house clearing with the RINOs being purged but it leaves the rotting corpse of the democrats aged leadership in post doing the crap they do, there's no house cleaning ability for them which means Whittaker's hammer might be the thing needed. We will see.
 
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Capsaicin Addict said:
Yup. Plus whatever Sessions was working on.

Which could range from 'high score in Freecell' to 'neatly itemized dossiers designed to buttfuck the major Dem players'. As @It's HK-47 has noted, Sessions had a reputation for running silent until the hammer came down. That point about FISA, and the three hop rule... I hadn't considered that.

This could get interesting.
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Trump wouldn't do this right after mid-terms not unless he was willing to drop some bombshells.
 
I can see this going one of a couple different ways, some more likely than others.

  1. Trump offers Whitaker a permanent AG position in return for inside information on what the special council has found, both up until now and past this point. If they haven’t discovered anything harmful to Trump or those close to him, they do nothing and allow the council to do its job unhindered, all the way smiling to the left and saying ‘See? You’re all acting foolish for nothing, we’re not obstructing anything. I mean really now...”
  2. Number 1, but it’s determined that the special council does have something substantial enough to endanger the president or those close to him, they now have inside information on a) how best to fight it in court, knowing full well what is in store for them, or b) shut the council down by asking Whitaker to make a public statement of ‘I have reviewed evidence thus far and have found no reason to allow the council to continue’.
  3. Number 1, but in addition they immediately use information gained on top Dems to start their own investigation and head hunt.
This is all predicated on Whitaker being enough of a greedy ring licker to accept Trump’s offer (and I honestly don’t know enough about the man to say whether he would or not), and Trump making the offer in the first place. But I can’t honestly imagine that he’d pass up the opportunity to find out what all the special council has both on him, but also top Dems.

But then, I’m just a simple pickle, so what do I know? They could all just shit themselves and do nothing.
 
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Pickle Pirate said:
I can see this going one of a couple different ways, some more likely than others.

  1. Trump offers Whitaker a permanent AG position in return for inside information on what the special council has found, both up until now and past this point. If they haven’t discovered anything harmful to Trump or those close to him, they do nothing and allow the council to do its job unhindered, all the way smiling to the left and saying ‘See? You’re all acting foolish for nothing, we’re not obstructing anything. I mean really now...”
  2. Number 1, but it’s determined that the special council does have something substantial enough to endanger the president or those close to him, they now have inside information on a) how best to fight it in court, knowing full well what is in store for them, or b) shut the council down by asking Whitaker to make a public statement of ‘I have reviewed evidence thus far and have found no reason to allow the council to continue’.
  3. Number 1, but in addition they immediately use information gained on top Dems to start their own investigation and head hunt.
This is all predicated on Whitaker being enough of a greedy ring licker to accept Trump’s offer (and I honestly don’t know enough about the man to say whether he would or not), and Trump making the offer in the first place. But I can’t honestly imagine that he’d pass up the opportunity to find out what all the special council has both on him, but also top Dems.

But then, I’m just a simple pickle, so what do I know? They could all just shit themselves and do nothing.
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So you're saying that Trump's master plan to avoid being indicted for crimes that he didn't commit is to commit a several crimes in order to learn that he didn't commit any crimes. Yeah that, uh.. That doesn't sound like a solid plan, to me.
 
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It's HK-47 said:
So you're saying that Trump's master plan to avoid being indicted for crimes that he didn't commit is to commit a several crimes in order to learn that he didn't commit any crimes. Yeah that, uh.. That doesn't sound like a solid plan, to me.
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I never said it was a particularly smart plan. And I mentioned the council having found evidence of wrongdoing on his more to have both possibilities presented for the sake of argument than anything else.

Either way, the whole situation doesn’t end as well for the left as I think a lot of them are expecting it to, regardless of what he does.
 
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