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I used to, in my wokeness, believe that you couldn't tell from the outside of the neovagina that is not home-grown, as it were. I thought the idea that you can tell was one of the lies told by anti-trans people. Then, inspired by this thread, I finally actually looked up some neovaginas. You can tell in 99 per cent of cases from the outside that things just don't look quite right. And that is accounting for the incredible amount of variation that natural vaginas can have among themselves.

There is still that 1 per cent, I hear you lurkers cry! You can't tell the difference in *all* of them! Therefore your point is invalid.

Yeah, I might not be able to tell the difference from a photo taken about a foot away.

But upon actually touching the vagina, let alone looking or feeling inside, a gyno can ABSOLUTELY tell. The vagina proper has all kinds of stuff that a fake labia attached to a man-made hole does not. The urethra in a certain place relative to the pelvis and the hole. A cervix, which is a sphincter or muscle (I forget which) that is regularly swabbed to check for cancer. Self-lubrication that doesn't involve sweat or pus. Regular self-cleaning discharge. In women who aren't born with vaginal deformities, it stretches to accommodate the size of a BABY. A neovagina can't stretch to accommodate the widest point on a DILATOR without months of gradually stretching it wider and wider. Vaginas make that stretch during the process of giving birth. They self-dilate. Neovaginas manually dilate.

I dont even know all the differences but I know this many and I'm not a gynaecologist, just a layperson and a vagina owner-operator. If you believe a gynaecologist, who is dedicated to the study and examination of the workings of the vagina and female reproductive system, cannot tell the difference, then I dont want to know what kind of gynaecologist you're going to because they sure as shit can't be licensed medical professionals. They can't have even passed Human Anatomy 101.

Then again, that isn't going to matter for these teoons because they don't *have* real vaginas anyway!

Neovaginas are purely decorative with some basic functionality. Vaginas are a whole system.

TL;DR if you think your neo vagina is the exception to the rule, then you're sadly mistaken.

Alternate TL;DR :stress: :story:

Some lies are so gigantic that you believe them because you can't understand how anyone thought they would get away with something so outrageous, and the lie that neovaginas are real vaginas is one of them.
 
Yeah sure, thats why it went hard blue this year. Colorado is a shit hole and everyone who lives there should be gassed.
Nigger I've been in this thread since before AM hole, sorry if I'm bored with kevdogs ebegging, nerve waking up for the 1000th time, or the continued death spiral of the poor alpacas. At this point I'm just waiting for Kev to kill him self but all the same fuck Colorado and Coloradoans
lol calm down you fucking retard.
 
They don't even go to a gyno since it's just a wound do they?
They do. It's a MAJOR part of the power fantasy. Plus, since 60% of gynecologists are women, if they doctor shop they will pretty quickly find either A) One who reddit points out as the most willing to play ball, or B) A woman who will just go with the standard male/female power dynamic.
 
Do you think he's going to swallow a whole bottle of pills or paint a wall with his brains because when it comes to suicide women tend to prefer the former and the men the latter.
I mean this is probably his only chance to "pass" as a woman
Chloe Segal set xirself on fire and that one livestreamer hanged ximself iirc, both of which are usually methods used by men. As for painting the walls, Kev-kev strikes me as the gunshy type, so I'd put money as to him choosing to rope.

I feel a little bit cheered by the remaining faith in humanity in the last couple pages- most Kiwis seem to have faith that the tranch has honest intentions. You guys must be decent people with mainly decent friends and family, and that warms my cockles. My general level of optimism, well, isn't, so here's my take.

Every really GOOD grift operates the same way. On the front end, you get the maximum amount of free shit you can manage from your sucker/s. Then you milk them for whatever else you can get while you're planning step 2. Once they start grumbling and it looks like you can't avoid paying them back (whether that's financially, emotionally, sexually, contractual obligations, whatever), you play the victim as hard as you possibly can to anyone who gives a fuck. The better you choose the topic of the front end, the more money you get, and the easier it is to win by playing the victim on the back. Trendy/emotional causes are best- kids, animals, LGBT-alphabet people, "Green" stuff. Your standard grifter goes for the easiest option and pops out a couple kids so they can hold the rest of their family hostage. Trannies used to have that level of victim card, but there's too damn many trannies now, and Penny can't even pretend he gives a fuck about his spawn, so round 1 was to get a bunch of animals.

Whoops, turns out it's a lot harder to play victim on the back end over animals- people tend to get pretty pissed if you abuse your animals, and almost everyone can figure out what's reasonable/legal and what's not. So right about the point where that's about to hit the fan, they've run off and bid on a recycling contract they obviously can't fulfill. They don't intend to, and never did. It's just much more legally complicated and easier to hide until the spring thaw. They got it to cover the costs of their previous grift, and when it comes time to actually recycle their huge backlog, they'll find some way that the county expecting them to do what they're contractually obligated to do makes them VICTIMS. Then they'll use the money from THAT grift to pay off whatever expenses they can't weasel out of from Recycling Grift... and on and on it goes.
My only critique of your analysis is it implies a level of social sophistication I don't believe the Tranchers have. At this point, I think the grift has become more instinctual, the way an alcoholic hides whiskey bottles away incase anyone starts fucking with his main stash.
 
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It's sad how Segal was trying to make a statement but he's such a retard that he only became a microscopic footnote in tranny history to occasionally pull up and make fun of. His last words being that he didn't know it would hurt that much is just a motif for trannies in general and the terrible decisions that they make.
 
I imagine troons going to a gyno is just free money for the gyno considering frankenvag is purely decorative.
They still take valuable time away from patients who actually need to visit the gyno.

There's also no telling what the consequences of playing along might be. I sure as fuck wouldn't want a mentally ill troon visiting every month asking for yet another pap smear, or visual examination, or birth control pills, or whatever dumb shit they happen to need to keep their delusion running.
 
Imagine running off into financial insecurity to some shithole, buy a cheap ass farm someone else dumped because it isnt viable enough, e-beg for 5-figures on the regular and then turning part of your haven into a literal trash dump.
Who wants to live like this?

I'm honestly kinda on the fence with the whole dysphoria shit and feeling bad about family members not calling you ma'am through your beard because this has to be worse for those people than their troonventure in dumping grounds.
At least as long as I assume I'm dealing with rational actors here.

But on the flipside, Kev tells twitter how he puts a pregnacy hormone into his ass and worries that his medical practicioner might disapprove. This reads more like erotic fanfiction written by someone who would hunt transpeople for sports than reality.
This must be the explanation. Full-on fetish life. Imagine the weirdo with the "I've given up" shirt holding a lonely baloon at a party. That but with more visible degeneracy and similar level of self-awareness.
 
As a vagina haver myself, every time Kevin mentions how progesterone will make him a horny slut I actually feel dehumanized. I was against 3rd wave feminism, I used to sympathize with trannies, but this is just misogynistic. It was obvious before but he just straight up doesn’t see women as people. Fuck holes with no brains are what women are to him. It’s what he’s going to spend the rest of his short life trying to become. And I have to play along with this fetishist? At the cost of my own self worth? Fuck him.

edit: I forgot admitting you’re a girl on the internet is forbidden, sorry fam.
 
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Kev-Kev has a nuclear meltdown over the fact that people can tell the difference between an actual vagina and his rancid amhole:
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Kevin Gibes said:
Cis people who think a neovagina is just a mangled penis and that EVERYONE can tell that it is: Let's pretend you're right for a moment. I want to go on a thought experiment with you.We all know there's massive advancements in science and medicine all the time, right? Let's say (again we're doing this thought experiment in a world where you're right) they invent a way to make a neovag INDISTINGUISHABLE from a "real" vagina.

How would you know?

Seriously.

How would you know that advancement had taken place?

"Oh well I'd hear about it"

Would you now? And you'd believe it? Because you're already showing that you wouldn't.

Spoilers: Vaginoplasties have been a thing since the 60's. That's a LOT of time to perfect the process.

The hypothetical advancement I'm talking about already happened. But because you insist on being transphobic, you haven't noticed

We've been trying to tell you this for YEARS. And if you happen to think that literally NO advancement in surgical tech could EVER make such a thing a reality:

Fucking really? Good luck demonstrating that. I eagerly await your findings.

I believe phalloplasties were also first invented for cis men who got their bits destroyed in war if I'm not mistaken?

Maybe transphobes think we're crazy and that we would settle for obviously "fake" genitals, but do they really think cis people would???

It's why in a previous thread I asked transphobes to just find a gyno whose seen a neovag to see if they could tell. In some cases they might not even know they have, but I've heard MANY stories of them being informed and going "Wait seriously?"

Oh and there's one more piece of this puzzle that's needed.

Pictures of fully healed neovaginas ARE somewhat uncommon.

But when you do see them, these transphobes will often try to pick out ways in which they look "wrong."

I hate to break it to you: All vulvas look "wrong."

And that's not me saying vulvas are gross, either. I'm saying we already know there's IMMENSE pressure in the porn industry to get labiaplasties etc to make one's vulva look "right."

That means the bar for what looks "right" to most people is higher than reality.

That's why I say talk to a gynecologist who's seen a neovag (not just one who thinks they'd know what one looks like, because again, there's tons of stories of them being wrong).

A literal doctor whose job it is to look at vaginas would know. The results are indistinguishable.

I don't know how convincing this thread will be to actual transphobes, but the facts don't lie: You're being duped by your own inherent transmisogyny.

And by the way, just so we're clear, I'm not saying that because I can prove you as a transphobe would be ignorant about this stuff in some scenarios that that therefore PROVES you're wrong.

The rest of the equation is you going out to actually research this stuff, or trusting doctors and surgeons to know better than you, or at the VERY least shutting up about stuff you have no experience with when people who DO have experience with it are telling you you're wrong.
https://twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1329857785023008770 (Archive)
 
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Kev-Kev has a nuclear meltdown over the fact that people can tell the difference between an actual vagina and his rancid amhole:

https://twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1329857785023008770 (Archive)
Someone needs to stop deluding these men into thinking anyone sees them as a woman. All it does is encourage their fetishes and give them more ammunition to whine about how TERFs are the only people who don't see them as women, when everybody with eyes can see the fact that they're autogynephiles who've taken it too far.

The only ones who ever pass are the gay ones. I swear, every transbian I have ever had the displeasure of looking at is always greasy, balding and overweight by a minimum of 20kg.
 
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