Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Clint let him in the car with that big-ass jug of mead. Still trying to be the friend instead of doing the correct thing. He will bring him to the next event too. Take him out by yourself instead of torturing the your family.
Josh is an adult. The only “correct thing” would be cutting him out of the family which I’m sure clint really doesn’t want to do.
 
Clint let him in the car with that big-ass jug of mead. Still trying to be the friend instead of doing the correct thing. He will bring him to the next event too. Take him out by yourself instead of torturing the your family.
When the Grinch is dead set on ruining Christmas nothing is going to take his mead jug dood.

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counter point, cobes was fine until retards on the internet started fucking with him. Sure, he was a retarded boglim, but he was a functional, contributing member of society until some nigger got him fired from Wendys.
This has always been the cope of the century when it comes to Josh, he wasn't a good employee, he was barely on a good day average - He was a collection of very serious mistakes and "satisfactory performance" periods that fluctuated his hours of work and pay, sometimes it went up, others it went down.

Not even close to a justification, but the only thing that fat fucking retard did, was be the last straw for the local branch that was most likely tired of yo-yoing him, when they had a concrete excuse to boot him.
 
Clint talks like a high school counselor or a understanding sitcom father from some 90's sitcom. I wonder if he's like that in private?
Probably for the most part. But the "you better not be (whatever dumb shit cobes is doing), boy" I believe came from Clint. I think Cobra was lying about what was said on Clintsmas, but I do believe that he would yell at cobra.
 
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This has always been the cope of the century when it comes to Josh, he wasn't a good employee, he was barely on a good day average - He was a collection of very serious mistakes and "satisfactory performance" periods that fluctuated his hours of work and pay, sometimes it went up, others it went down.

Not even close to a justification, but the only thing that fat fucking retard did, was be the last straw for the local branch that was most likely tired of yo-yoing him, when they had a concrete excuse to boot him.
Yes, because he is literally a retard.

The idea that a literal retard working a fast food job should be anything more than below average is the cope here.
 
counter point, cobes was fine until retards on the internet started fucking with him. Sure, he was a retarded boglim, but he was a functional, contributing member of society until some nigger got him fired from Wendys. Clint is far from perfect, but lets not act like Cobes current state is entirely the result of bad parenting when reddit faggots are sending bottles of air duster to his door.

Cobra was a bad employee who the management was probably happy for an excuse to fire. Even if we accept the premise that evil troles got him fired, if that's true, that should have been a turning point where he realized that being a dancing monkey on Youtube wasn't good for him and stopped doing it. Instead he quit even trying to pretend to do anything respectable or worthwhile and leaned fully into being an Internet retard and let it consume his entire life. So that's most definitely on Josh, not on the heckin' troles.

Blaming everything on the gosh darn troles is like dancing around a starving grizzly bear trying to poke it in the eyes and then acting surprised when it eats you. If you make a shitshow of yourself online people will fuck with you. It's a reality that you can't change no matter how hard you whine and sperg out about it, you can only account for it by not putting yourself in that position to begin with.

This notion that parents are entirely responsible for their mentally disabled or mentally ill children just doesnt hold water when those children were relatively fine before the internet started fucking with them. Terry Davis might still be alive if someone didnt send a drumset to his parents house. The same could be said about Cobes braincells and the air duster, although admittedly alcohol would eventually do the job...

I agree Clint isn't totally responsible because Josh himself has agency, not because of le troles. Admittedly I think it is clear that Josh is a literal retard to a large extent and thus has less agency than a normal person. In the interview at one point Clint recounted how when Josh turned 18 and became a legal adult it led to 2 years of hell as Josh fully abused his legal privilege to be a complete fucking idiot at every possible turn. Then towards the end Clint explains why he made that decision and didn't go down the route of keeping legal guardianship over Cobes, without ever making the connection back to the earlier segment about how obviously disastrous it was to let Josh actually make any of his own decisions.

The whole not brushing his teeth for a decade plus until they're literally rotting out of their head proves by itself that Clint made the wrong call on that, never mind considering the myriad other ways Josh's life is a total disaster. I think Clint's notion that if he tried to actually improve his son Cobra would just cut him out and go homeless might be correct, but that's only the case because Clint gave him that much rope to hang himself with in the first place. I think it's indicative of Clint's overall state of delusion about Josh. He is well meaning and wants to hope for the best but can't see the situation for what it really is.

In hindsight I think it's totally undeniable that Josh should have never been given legal adult status and ultimately he does belong in some kind of group home or institution, if he wouldn't be able to continue living with family. Clint knew just how mentally disabled Josh is and still made the decision to give him the legal authority to drink himself to death. I don't really hold any animus towards any of these people it's just a tragic situation all around IMO. And a fascinating dumpster fire to observe from a safe distance of course.
 
Yes, because he is literally a retard.

The idea that a literal retard working a fast food job should be anything more than below average is the cope here.
Showing up for work is all the folks at Wendy's cared about. Pretty sure they get some monies or some sort of tax write off for hiring tards. Escpially if done thru a 3rd party like jobcorp. Every fast food restaurant in America used to have either a retard or and uber elderly person working the lobby pre covid. As long as Josh did the bare minimum and it didn't look like absolute ass in there. Those folks gave 0 fucks outside of him being a creepy weirdo and the one fuck up with the tea that is. Even then, idk why people find it so hard he was decent at it, as it's mostly a job retards and the eldery work. The tea and wrestling a mop bucket were the biggest hurdle he had to deal with in that job. The hair dyed debacle was the most retarded thing he did, I can't defend that. But Everything else was on tard autopilot, if anything he probably thrived given how much tards love big boy tasks. Dude was just Lazer focused on drink straws and condiment levels all day no doubt. I'm sure he probably obsessed over it like most tards would. Unironcially why these jobs exists, is to like give retards hope. The only time any genuinely gives a fuck about the lobby is open and close. Everything in between just keep busy until someone tells you some Karen is complaint.

Most of the time the tards are also paid a sub standard wage. So the expectations are already low. Being average or even slightly below works because you paying a retard pennies.

Yall act like dude was working a nuclear reactor when in reality he was working a job that's mostly filled by retards, the elderly, or the physically disabled and the expectations are quite low.
 
The idea that people who are so retarded they should have a legal guardian care for them into adulthood, should change their behavior when they are well aware someone conspired against them to get them fired from their below minimum wage job, is gold medal mental gymnastics.

Josh was funny before the trolls. Now hes more tragic than funny.
 
Sure, he was a retarded boglim, but he was a functional, contributing member of society until some nigger got him fired from Wendys.
He got himself fired, they were soft firing him by cutting down his hours to 2-3 a week if I recall. Said nigger was the excuse they needed, not the cause.

Clint is far from perfect, but let’s not act like Cobes current state is entirely the result of bad parenting when reddit faggots are sending bottles of air duster to his door.
You have to ask what kind of person receives duster with instructions to huff it and enthusiastically does it immediately, while denying proper showering and smoking butts picked up off the ground? The kind of person whose parents didn’t give enough of a fuck to properly discipline them. It comes from the same father who cried when he saw his son play Grand Theft Auto, the kind of guy who wears dresses and pretends to be a ladyboy, who teaches interpretive photoshop and enters dancing competitions.

His father is a weak faggot who cannot discipline children because he is a woman who cannot separate how he feels from what is necessary to do. His son is an undisciplined mess because of this. Clint can cope all he wants by throwing out unverified claims of ODD or Aspergers but that’s all it’ll ever be. A cope for just being a shitty dad who has a shitty son.
 
Now that I have some time I spent some time reading the Reddit thread and here are my favorite comments.

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Family member aping out over troll slander. Hilarious considering it’s happening right now on the Farms.
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This is somehow hilarious and revolting at the same time. Imagine saying that to a child at a family reunion.
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The shick shick shick shick is perfect. I can 1:1 hear that but would have never considered the spelling.
 
Now that I have some time I spent some time reading the Reddit thread and here are my favorite comments.

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Family member aping out over troll slander. Hilarious considering it’s happening right now on the Farms.
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This is somehow hilarious and revolting at the same time. Imagine saying that to a child at a family reunion.
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The shick shick shick shick is perfect. I can 1:1 hear that but would have never considered the spelling.
Literal fanfiction. Good to know any retard can make up a creative story and provide a grand total of zero evidence besides “trust me, bro” and everybody will believe it as fact. Shit like this is why there are so many people trying to spoil the fun by chasing him off the internet. People can’t just enjoy the show they have to fanfic and make up all sorts of exaggerated nonsense that people will just blindly believe without any evidence. It’s why we have morons throwing conniption fits and trying to “punish” him for shit that clearly didn’t actually happen like pissing on a deer or whatever nonsense
 
So Josh tard smashed his phone and had a meltdown/fit cause Mommy and Daddy Nips said no more homemade hooch at the table and had to be shuttled home ..holy fucking shit why do they even invite him?
Despite never acting like a father, Clint still thinks that's his job. Eternal forgiveness despite inability to give tough love.
 
It was driving me insane trying to figure out that weird fucking feeling I got watching Clint talk so openly, and at times negatively, with Cobes right next to him.

Then it hit me — he uses him like a fucking prop.

Probably has for years.

Cobes gives him excuse to talk about himself, the trials about raising the tard’, and tries reasoning how this all fucking fell apart. It’s clear he’s always talked like Josh was helpless, trying his ohh so best, and people were just fucking with him — even though Clint was trying his best.

Nothing is Cobes fault. People fuck with him for no reason. He’s just doing his thing.

Some truth in some of this shit but he’s a clear enabler of this fucked up behavior.

He decided that he didn’t want to risk being cut off from Cobes, so he was fine watching him fuck his life up, and more than happy to make excuses.
 
Despite never acting like a father, Clint still thinks that's his job. Eternal forgiveness despite inability to give tough love.
Who even wants the fucker there, Josh is disgusting, selfish and most of all unstable. He croaks on about not even believing in christmas but will be a greedy cunt and take money and gifts, tbh he should just sit in his fucking hobbit hole
I think Clunt likes people seeing him have to deal with Jersh so they feel bad for him bu also praise him for shuffling the tard out biyearly.
 
Who even wants the fucker there
I don't think any of his extended family wants him there- or anywhere near them. As @Bixby Snyder just elated- it could very well be Clint's ability to show off for the rest of the world how he deals with his dumbass kid, who he loves dearly, but is so thankful is no longer under his 24/7 direct care.

I mean sure, who wouldn't be happy to do a few hours of facetime with someone they can 't stand for a few hours out of the year? Many of us do that daily for a paycheck. However, the amount of time Clint has spent showing off for the camera does make me wonder if this is just his moment of glory on his personal stage.

Not that I think he doesn't care about Josh in some manner, but when was the last time Josh has ever been with his family where it didn't go on the Internet in some manner? Clint says Josh does most of it (which is true), but how could Josh do it if they didn't keep replacing his broken tard-raged hardware?
 
It was driving me insane trying to figure out that weird fucking feeling I got watching Clint talk so openly, and at times negatively, with Cobes right next to him.

Then it hit me — he uses him like a fucking prop.

Probably has for years.

Cobes gives him excuse to talk about himself, the trials about raising the tard’, and tries reasoning how this all fucking fell apart. It’s clear he’s always talked like Josh was helpless, trying his ohh so best, and people were just fucking with him — even though Clint was trying his best.

Nothing is Cobes fault. People fuck with him for no reason. He’s just doing his thing.

Some truth in some of this shit but he’s a clear enabler of this fucked up behavior.

He decided that he didn’t want to risk being cut off from Cobes, so he was fine watching him fuck his life up, and more than happy to make excuses.
The way he talked about cobes like he wasn’t in the room when he was sitting right next to him rubbed me the wrong way. It’s such a demeaning way to treat anybody let alone your child. It’s clear Clint is narcissist that loves to hear himself talk and basks in attention. It’s why the Reddit fanfic immediately flagged as bullshit to me when they were saying Clint is quiet and keeps to
himself. No fucking chance dude he’s the type of guy who gets annoyed if he’s not at the center of attention and is always making everything about him.
 
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