🥝 Community Kiwi Farms Community Doom Mapping Project No. 2! - Now with custom Kiwi-assets!

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Took a while to get around to it but overall it was pretty enjoyable.

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But what will the troonstream media (Doomworld) have to say about it?
 
But what will the troonstream media (Doomworld) have to say about it?
They've already fucked it right off.

They even banned our poor friend @nozomu for posting it there, and that in just under 15 minutes. If we had delivered an actual bad product, there would be anti-Kiwifarms threads all over Troonworld right now, laughing and pointing at us. They kind of did that last time, there are still a few posts left over of users saying we would win the yearly Mockward, implying we'd be only producing trash.

The fact that in over almost a month, there hasn't been a single mention of us on Troonworld, not even any "outrage" threads, must be a sign that they are very afraid of what would happen, if any of their userbase would start reading the associated text file or question the narrative after playing the megawad. They know they fucked up when they messed with the Doomer Boards, they know they doubly fucked up when they realized that through their actions they have created a new "hostile" mapping community.

They won't even try to point and laugh at us, they keep complete radio silence. Fucking pussies.
 
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They know they fucked when they messed with the Doomer Boards,
And yet they shrug it off cuz "lol lmao who dun give da shiiet to dat 40oz right y'all?!" fag-tier cope.

, they know they doubly fucked up when they realized that through their actions they have created a new "hostile" mapping community.
You mean us? Oh please, we're not hostile, we're just True and Honest Fans. :) Not to mention thatthrough their "inclusive" policies most of actually decent people have left the Doom scene entirely and moved on somewhere else. Either to other id software games communities (that are no better than doom due to each correlates with others drastically) or, well, have left to greener plains away from all this.

Also KFD2 link to moddb is still pending. Motherfuckers, in normal circumstances this takes way less of time.

They won't even try to point and laugh at us, they keep complete radio silence. Fucking pussies.
Well I've left buncha invitations for a dialogue and all of them were discarded, proving that KKKfags all around Doom places are legit afraid of this place.
 
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I hope troonworld puts the kiwi farms all over their site calling us hateful ebil Nazis. I want entire threads discussing how bigoted we are, entire site banners, the whole lot, so that troons are enticed to come over and try to call us evil chuds on this site. It would be hilarious.
 
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They can't even point and laugh at us, they keep complete radio silence. Fucking pussies.
I have noticed this. It makes me wonder about a twitch safe version , since unedited, tranny jannies would be HUMPING ON AIR to ban you for playing it, but if you edited out the slurs, turned troon keens into just hung wojaks, and a few other things, I think streaming it would be a LITTLE harder to justify banning. Not saying they wont but its a little harder than "it says n word, and has dead trans people, banned".

I know some might be against it damaging the artistic vision but if it allowed spreading outward, might be good.

Off the top of my head, I think the trans flags / HRT references, hung troonjack(both entity, and digital screen image on base), nigger / faggot references, and the ass cock rekieta textures, and chudjack "billions must die" texture, nigger head in butcher,HRT facility name, jews in the reactor ect would be obvious stuff to go, and perhaps the trans texture on the dead boss might be stuff needed to remove to make it viable. Not a huge alteration but not tiny either, just a thought

I know that sounds a stupid amount of effort, but if this meant it could be streamed on twitch without a ban could lead to some HILARIOUS levels of butthurt, since the stream catagory is so heavily pozzed.
I hope troonworld puts the kiwi farms all over their site calling us hateful ebil Nazis. I want entire threads discussing how bigoted we are, entire site banners, the whole lot, so that troons are enticed to come over and try to call us evil chuds on this site. It would be hilarious.
Like article said, I think they realize the map is generally quality enough this DOESN'T work. Infact I think they are well aware that mentioning risks people who WANT to jump ship say "wait, kiwis make doom shit!? FUCK YEAH IM JOINING" .

So yeah they want to pretend it doesn't exist, because its mere mention or discussion HURTS them. I think they know its quality, they know several aren't content with the doom sphere would probably love it. So they really prefer if its not mentioned. And if it is mentioned, its mentioned as trash nobody should waste time on. Thats why they ban about it.

Its kinda why I think attempting a stream safe version might be funny, I don't doubt it wouldn't cause drama / might STILL get people upset. And it being on twitch for everyone to see would be funny. Because correct me if I'm wrong, REFERENCING kiwi farms is not a bannable offense by itself. Even if people would be flipping out over it.
 
I'm mega busy at the moment with a bunch of creative projects, but when I get the chance I'll try out the new .wad and maybe even do a review video if it ends up being cool - if for no other reason than I've already had Farms references in videos, and that whole MATI clip about cheddar cheese in my Arcane Dimensions review, so I might as well go and make it very explicit.

For the record, I did play about half of the original one, but I just wasn't really in the mood at the time to play through what felt like a lot of people's very first time using a doom map editor. No hate, and definitely not saying I can do any better, but that was the thing that made me drop off.
So what's your verdict, are you still planning to make a review video? By the way, where can we watch your stuff. I can't find it.
 
I know some might be against it damaging the artistic vision but if it allowed spreading outward, might be good.
Even though I fucking hate self-censoring, I wouldn't mind doing changes. It's just that I think doing this is pointless. It would not change anyone's mind and no one would think it's ok to play after the changes, but not before.
And if it has to change that much, then what's left anyway? It's the big middle finger that makes it "special".
 
It would not change anyone's mind and no one would think it's ok to play after the changes, but not before.
And if it has to change that much, then what's left anyway? It's the big middle finger that makes it "special".
The point is that if you took out the slurs, racial caricatures, troon shit, ECT, you could EFFECTIVELY let people flaunt "look its kiwi farms shit" on twitch. I know twitch, and troons in doom community HAAAAATE KF. So yeah it would dilute it and I normally hate self censorship too, but the benefit that one could stream it and not NECESSARILY get banned instantly makes it worth it.

And sure its a middle finger but its also the beautiful proxy in that it could let people lowkey promote kiwi farms on twitch with the deniability of "cmon, bro, its JUST a map pack, and its twitch compliant.".

Its your call if its done, but I'm telling you it has big potential. I think you kinda underestimate how much doom trannies would SEETHE about kiwi doom being played OPENLY on twitch, being reported, screamed, pissed and shitted about, but they can't do anything. Or if they banned it on twitch, at least its not "ignoring", and they would have to say they ban reference to the farms or something. Which I don't think they would do tbh

Come to think of it, I imagine some could take screenshots of KF doom and publish them on steam doom2 screenshots / artwork for the same effect. as long as it doesn't show troons, or slurs, or similar stuff on the image, steam has ZERO means to remove the screenshots AFAIK.
 
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And sure its a middle finger but its also the beautiful proxy in that it could let people lowkey promote kiwi farms on twitch with the deniability of "cmon, bro, its JUST a map pack, and its twitch compliant.".
The problem is that, and I'm sure you know, the gender people don't play by the same rules. Also, is there anyone with big enough viewers who would play this to make it worthwhile anyway?
 
The problem is that, and I'm sure you know, the gender people don't play by the same rules.
I'm aware. But I think twitch is less pozzed than nexus / doomworld. Not to say they AREN'T pozzed, but not not as bad. Its definitely possible they could ban REGARDLESS, but a ban which has to do mental gymnastics / all sorts of lies / warped reasoning / change or be an addition to twitch TOS is a LOT harder for moderation to justify than seeing "nigger" said twice in the intro and being an open shut case of moderation. Its the difference between stream banning risk being playing russian roulette with a revolver, vs a magfed pistol. One is GUARANTEED, the other is just high risk
Also, is there anyone with big enough viewers who would play this to make it worthwhile anyway?
This is a REALLY subjective question so.....maybe? Frankly my thinking is just that it would become more of a discussion topic, if its on the page of doom2 stream catagory, its a lot harder to ignore. Its also of an issue of nobody "big" could ever play this in its current state. And beyond that it breaches the "containment" kiwi farms stuff usually had, limited to KF, and PERHAPS a few KF creators....to showing it to stuff who are just playing doom and stumble into it, who otherwise might never hear of KF

Like I said Its ultimately up to you, but I'm just sharing my thoughts behind it.

Its also worth noting the youtube review is STILL up. Granted thats youtube, a small channel, but its been a while, and it hasn't been removed yet so.....Just a consideration.
 
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So what's your verdict, are you still planning to make a review video? By the way, where can we watch your stuff. I can't find it.
I've only found time for 3 levels, but short version of the verdict so far:
Looks on the same level of quality as some of the quirkier Doomer Boards Projects or some of the better Joys of Mappings.
One of the only "complaints" (not the right word, can't think of the right word) I have is that if you make levels that accurately satirize trannyWAD design trends, I still have to play that trannyWAD gameplay.

Can't say exactly when I'll get to the video: After losing a lot of data from some drive failures and their backups magically disappearing, and so having to recreate all my assets like my logos and background and everything all over again, I'm currently in early stages of making a review about a couple of Metroid 'fan games' that'll be the next in my Tasteful Pairings style videos. The KiwiDoom2 one will be a lot less posh and more like one of my other reviews.

It'll take time because I don't binge the shit out of things I do videos on. I don't want to burn out, or start rushing voice recording or editing or anything, so things like KiwiDoom2 and Metroid: Subversion are going to take me some time to get through: I'm not some youtuber who's making videos as a hustle, these are a thing I do in my spare time because I enjoy it.
 
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