Kiwis with stigmatized mental conditions, how do you cope?

[Lingering butter taste]

A disorder like Borderline is 100% rooted in some form of trauma, at least the ones I've met weren't born with their brains broken but these are also BPDs who've actively recognised they have issues and have/are working towards something resembling a life worth living. Someone like Anisa Jomha doesn't appear to have gone through trauma (that we can fact check anyway, she has a lot of claims of trauma like her infamous tiktok rape dance) but she's very clearly broken.

If you’re saying she hasn’t gone through trauma because of her blase almost joking attitude about it, I will say that’s actually very common amongst trauma survivors. INCREDIBLY unhealthy and looked down upon by other trauma survivors, but it’s not indicative of not having gone through anything. It’s very common in African American communities, where they’ll joke about how bad they were beat as if it’s just next Tuesday. I don’t know anything about Anisa though.

For some reason it won’t let me reply, but as for the guy above me, stigma really is slowing down research and that’s mostly our fault. Again, people love to call any mildly eccentric woman “BPD”. I remember I saw one of those online BPD tests and one of the questions was unironically “Do you dye your hair and have leftist politics?”.

In my experience, the severity of BPD is entirely dependent on the patient. It’s a disease that thrives off of being self-unaware, as fucked up as it is to say, things like “Trust yourself” and “You’re your best judge” are poison to people with BPD. But at the same time there’s a lot of sick men who want to take advantage of them, so they need some self love. It’s a hard balance to reach that not many do. But I don’t think it’s hopeless to people with BPD, rather it’s timed. The sooner you are told this after diagnosis, the better chance you have.

I’d take a guess that the main difference between BPD and CPTSD is CPTSD gives you moments of raised hackles, BPD makes you constantly on edge. Though I’m not sure.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

"My ex was borderline" really is the "my ex was a narcissist" for men.

Spoiler

It's possible that it's real but for 90% of the time I refuse to believe it because it's tossed around so much and just used to mean "crazy bitch." It doesn't help that it's criteria is extremely vague and at best reads like having PTSD or some type of abused dog syndrome. But I guess you can say that for many mental illnesses.

All women are bi. The onus is on you to determine whether their bi is sexual or polar. Borderline is very literally "crazy bitch disease", so of course it's going to be associated with crazy bitches.

I can't tell if having BPD is worse than getting the diagnosis, but from experience, I can tell you that they're in the same league. As soon as they're diagnosed, they LOVE wearing it as a badge, and using it as an excuse for everything, like retards who get diagnosed with Autism/Aspergers.

 

[Carlos Thin]

I cope by going on a forum and mocking those with lower self awareness than myself.

 

[Hulkster]

I have terminal ligma and I try to cope with it by trying to talk to other people with my condition, but whenever I ask them they start laughing. We truly are the most stigmatized group of people.

I was diagnosed with long-form ligma during the pandemic, but after I cut out seed oils and started drinking raw milk, I was cured. Thanks, RFK Jr.

 

[PetiteFeet]

If you’re saying she hasn’t gone through trauma because of her blase almost joking attitude about it, I will say that’s actually very common amongst trauma survivors.

No, I'm saying it's because she's Anisa. I've met a lot of different people with different diagnoses over my life and we've almost always bonded over our dark humour regarding our diagnoses, so I wouldn't brush off an awkward attempt at making light of the worst situations a person can find themselves in.
I don't know exactly what Anisa Jomha suffers from, as I am not a doctor just a mentally ill bitch online, but I also know she's a serial liar.
I do agree with you on everything else, I've experienced on my own body that just because you don't fit 1:1 with this weird box that's a diagnosis it means you're not mentally ill, or mentally ill enough to be taken seriously.
It's heartbreaking, knowing friends of mine have gone through a living nightmare but because of the wrong doctor that fails to see through the masking, the eloquence and the jokes, it can mean they won't get the help that they need.
Some diagnoses are over-diagnosed, some doctors are too quick to write prescriptions on pills just because some retard says they're depressed and lack purpose in life and people's expectations of what mental illness is/isn't all contribute to the stigma and lack of research in certain fields.
Psychology is closer to guess-work and the experience a medical professional have/don't have, especially when it comes to something that isn't responsive to medication or certain types of therapy.

 

[Lingering butter taste]

No, I'm saying it's because she's Anisa. I've met a lot of different people with different diagnoses over my life and we've almost always bonded over our dark humour regarding our diagnoses, so I wouldn't brush off an awkward attempt at making light of the worst situations a person can find themselves in.
I don't know exactly what Anisa Jomha suffers from, as I am not a doctor just a mentally ill bitch online, but I also know she's a serial liar.
I do agree with you on everything else, I've experienced on my own body that just because you don't fit 1:1 with this weird box that's a diagnosis it means you're not mentally ill, or mentally ill enough to be taken seriously.
It's heartbreaking, knowing friends of mine have gone through a living nightmare but because of the wrong doctor that fails to see through the masking, the eloquence and the jokes, it can mean they won't get the help that they need.
Some diagnoses are over-diagnosed, some doctors are too quick to write prescriptions on pills just because some retard says they're depressed and lack purpose in life and people's expectations of what mental illness is/isn't all contribute to the stigma and lack of research in certain fields.
Psychology is closer to guess-work and the experience a medical professional have/don't have, especially when it comes to something that isn't responsive to medication or certain types of therapy.

Honestly this is why I always disliked the “exposing fake disorders” movement. Too often people’s evidence is someone making a joke, the idea that the mentally ill are just miserable miserable and even more miserable is outdated 1950s garbage. Not saying people don’t fake disorders, just that a joke isn’t indicative of it.

I’ll have to look into Anisa though, my jaw dropped when I watched the first second of that TikTok trauma video. You could not torture me for that information.

 

[Hulkster]

All jokes aside, I have really bad social anxiety and OCD. I'm pretty sure they are related to each other. Anyhow, it's extremely debilitating. I've had a really bad flare-up recently. I keep thinking I'm having a heart attack because I had heart palpitations from drinking too many Coke Zeros. I have also been obsessively washing my hands, and my family keeps wondering why I take so long in the shower, which kind of sucks that they don't understand what I'm dealing with, but hopefully the cyberbullying trannies site can relate to what I'm dealing with.

 

[PetiteFeet]

I’ll have to look into Anisa though, my jaw dropped when I watched the first second of that TikTok trauma video. You could not torture me for that information.

as a lolcow, I have mixed feelings on her. She's very clearly mentally ill but not in the way she'd have you believe. She's some flavour of Cluster B and the thread flipflops on whether it's NPD/BPD. She's also incredibly boring except when she's having her monthly meltdown on twitter, and lately she's been in a months long shitstorm because her husband is Idubbbz.

 

[Lingering butter taste]

as a lolcow, I have mixed feelings on her. She's very clearly mentally ill but not in the way she'd have you believe. She's some flavour of Cluster B and the thread flipflops on whether it's NPD/BPD. She's also incredibly boring except when she's having her monthly meltdown on twitter, and lately she's been in a months long shitstorm because her husband is Idubbbz.

Has anyone considered HPD? People mistake BPD for “the attention seeking disease” when really that’s more so along the lines of HPD. BPD is more so “the abandonment issues disease” where attention seeking is just a symptom of that, another way to avoid abandonment.
From what I know, I can’t imagine someone with BPD posting that video, cause it’d get them negative attention that they’d then perceive as abandonment. Whilst people with HPD (and NPD) don’t care if attention is negative or positive.

 

[8reallybigbirds]

Coming back to give my two cents on the BPD/CPTSD distinction. In my experience BPD, because it is a personality disorder, makes someone likely to lash out at people that they care about in times of stress. It is entirely beyond their control, and is a very poor defense mechanism. True BPD does come from trauma (every crazy bitch with blue hair does not have bpd I promise some people are just shitty) but for some reason in the BPD persons head they can't process the trauma properly so they avoid treatment or behavioral changes because that requires a lot of re-traumatization that for whatever reason they can't take. They seem to be allergic to self-reflection. CPTSD on the other hand I have and it's more like a physical reaction to things. Even if you work through all your past traumas and you know the ins and outs of who what where and why, you still have the reaction. I'll shake really hard, get hot and nervous sweat, have a whole panic attack and then a migraine after (yayyy extreme childhood stress causes lifelong nerve damage) I'm very aware when something triggers me and I really just try to stay away from people until the panic has passed. I never ever ever lash out or attack someone when a BPD person would.
That's just my personal experience though.

 

[MF-690T]

I don't cope. Embracing your condition and letting yourself become a helpless loser due to a label is the worst thing you could do to yourself. I've never used mine as an excuse for anything, in fact I'm not even going to say what it is because nobody needs to know that.

What most people don't understand is that in life you will have to do things you don't want to do, you'll have to step outside your limits every so often. You won't always be able to shortcut your way out of everything, like calling your boss to stay home for a "mental health day" (for the 4th time this year). Mental & neurological illnesses are horrific things that drastically impact quality of life, they're not the modern equivalent of Pokémon cards to trade and collect. Even in my darkest days I've just decided to keep going out of sheer spite, I guess.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

We truly are the most stigmatized group of people.

You mean ligmatized?

So we can’t read a 9 word sentence, great. This is for people who fit the bill, not for you to vague about your ex-girlfriend.

You've been here for a week, so maybe you didn't realize what sort of forum this was, but we generally frown on retards oversharing about how their brain no worky good.

Coming back to give my two cents on the BPD/CPTSD distinction. In my experience BPD, because it is a personality disorder, makes someone likely to lash out at people that they care about in times of stress. It is entirely beyond their control, and is a very poor defense mechanism. True BPD does come from trauma (every crazy bitch with blue hair does not have bpd I promise some people are just shitty) but for some reason in the BPD persons head they can't process the trauma properly so they avoid treatment or behavioral changes because that requires a lot of re-traumatization that for whatever reason they can't take. They seem to be allergic to self-reflection. CPTSD on the other hand I have and it's more like a physical reaction to things. Even if you work through all your past traumas and you know the ins and outs of who what where and why, you still have the reaction. I'll shake really hard, get hot and nervous sweat, have a whole panic attack and then a migraine after (yayyy extreme childhood stress causes lifelong nerve damage) I'm very aware when something triggers me and I really just try to stay away from people until the panic has passed. I never ever ever lash out or attack someone when a BPD person would.
That's just my personal experience though.

All jokes aside, I have really bad social anxiety and OCD. I'm pretty sure they are related to each other. Anyhow, it's extremely debilitating. I've had a really bad flare-up recently. I keep thinking I'm having a heart attack because I had heart palpitations from drinking too many Coke Zeros. I have also been obsessively washing my hands, and my family keeps wondering why I take so long in the shower, which kind of sucks that they don't understand what I'm dealing with, but hopefully the cyberbullying trannies site can relate to what I'm dealing with.

Man, these kinds of threads really are like a nice big pile of spoiled ground beef to the sorts of retarded "joined 2 weeks ago" flies that love to overshare about themselves.

 

[TV's Adam West]

I do extremely retarded and cruel things, then just claim I have autism.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

vidya,sleeping,and a sense of humor all things considered

I cope by going on a forum and mocking those with lower self awareness than myself.

also this

 

[8reallybigbirds]

Man, these kinds of threads really are like a nice big pile of spoiled ground beef to the sorts of retarded "joined 2 weeks ago" flies that love to overshare about themselves.

Yo my bad king, from now on I will exclusively post about niggers chowing down on that starchy goodness and the thinly veiled cult of saturn that the jews are running. You sure showed me.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Yo my bad king, from now on I will exclusively post about niggers chowing down on that starchy goodness and the thinly veiled cult of saturn that the jews are running. You sure showed me.

I sincerely hope you weren't sweating and shaking uncontrollably while you typed that out.

EDIT: had a peek at your profile, suddenly the uncontrollable desire to overshare about childhood PTSD and other gay shit makes sense - you're a woman.

 

[8reallybigbirds]

I sincerely hope you weren't sweating and shaking uncontrollably while you typed that out.

EDIT: had a peek at your profile, suddenly the uncontrollable desire to overshare about childhood PTSD and other gay shit makes sense - you're a woman.

Awww how sweet of you to check in on me <3