Legend of Zelda thread - Lorefags GTFO!

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It wasn't. From the earliest days it was fantasy and it was inspired by Miyomoto running around exploring the woods and caves near Kyoto as a kid.

Guess that concept art and this are bullshit:

Early Zelda concepts involved technological elements, with microchips for the Triforce made of electronic circuits and a time-traveling hero, another factor of their name relating to the idea of a computer hyper-"link".

Apparently the art is actually from them revisiting the concept for LttP, but again abandoning the idea, I thought they only considered it once, for the original LoZ.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Guess that concept art and this are bullshit:


Apparently the art is actually from them revisiting the concept for LttP, but again abandoning the idea, I thought they only considered it once, for the original LoZ.

Are you seriously going to quote a DYKG and wikipedia of all things at me? And not only that but a 12 year old article that's less than a paragraph long and also speculates based on a single jotted note? Get the fuck out of here you retard.

What is even sci-fi about that outfit she's wearing? The big shoulderpads and lack of pants are just as prevalent in 80's fantasy.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Are you seriously going to quote a DYKG and wikipedia of all things at me?

Are you saying that art is fake just because of the sources? You want me to hunt down and scan the original source myself, or...?

What is even sci-fi about that outfit she's wearing?

Get the fuck out of here you retard.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Are you saying that art is fake just because of the sources? You want me to hunt down and scan the original source myself, or...?

Yeah, go for it. It doesn't exist. And if your entire argument is based on a single concept sketch with a jotted note in the margins that does not equal game design. It's common to draw a variety of different types of concept art and put characters in various different outfits or aesthetics. The game itself was never sci-fi since all of the actual game design we have access to never make any mention of that.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Yeah, go for it. It doesn't exist. And if your entire argument is based on a single concept sketch with a jotted note in the margins that does not equal game design.

What's it equal then? Why was it notable enough to (allegedly, since I haven't PERSONALLY scanned and uploaded the book) include in Hyrule Historia if it's completely random and entirely unimportant? Use some fucking logic you autistic faggot. There's probably thousands of notes and sketches from decades of Zelda history, but they didn't include them all, just ones that are notable.

It's common to draw a variety of different types of concept art and put characters in various different outfits or aesthetics. The game itself was never sci-fi since all of the actual game design we have access to never make any mention of that.

If it was "never scifi" then why draw anything with scifi "outfits or aesthetics"? This logic hinges on your retarded denial that it even looks scifi to begin with, which is laughable because it obviously is.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

Dude, even on Wikipedia it says that the setting Tezuka wrote for LoZ was inspired by Tolkien and European fairytales. Yeah, according to the Wiki, they were considering "technological" elements (which I actually didn't know), but those apparently were dropped early into development.
That hardly amounts to "Zelda was supposed to be a sci-fi game", I'm guessing the sci-fi-elements would have been along the lines of what we saw in WW, BotW or TotK.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Yeah, according to the Wiki, they were considering "technological" elements (which I actually didn't know), but those apparently were dropped early into development.

Not only that but if LoZ truly was "supposed to be sci-fi" then why were none of them in the smallest amount sci-fi for forty years? They had the entire 2d era, the handheld games across four (maybe five) different handheld systems, the entire N64 era, and the Gamecube. The closest you get to "sci-fi" in any of those games is Fi. And it's not like Nintendo was scared to mess with a winning formula, every LoZ game (except for ToTK) has been a fairly distinct departure from it's predocessor on a tonal and gameplay level.

All of this is on top of the fact that @SSj_Ness (Yiffed) promised me sources and then gave me precisely zero sources and instead decided he would try to turn it around on me like the Wind Waker loving cretin he is. Where are the sources big man? You said there'd be sources.

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

Not only that but if LoZ truly was "supposed to be sci-fi" then why were none of them in the smallest amount sci-fi for forty years?

I think sci-fi was an idea for A Link to the Past, not the original. I could be wrong and I don't care, it's not important.

I don't get the love for Wind Waker. It's a rushed and incomplete mess that is only held up by nostalgia and the artstyle. When I played it for the first time, I was shocked by how mid it was.

 

[Jack Garland]

I think sci-fi was an idea for A Link to the Past, not the original. I could be wrong and I don't care, it's not important.

I don't get the love for Wind Waker. It's a rushed and incomplete mess that is only held up by nostalgia and the artstyle. When I played it for the first time, I was shocked by how mid it was.

"Comfy"' might be the reason. I really like TWW, but it really is a half-finished game. It would easily be the GOAT with two more dungeons and more surface Hyrule.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

"Comfy"' might be the reason. I really like TWW, but it really is a half-finished game. It would easily be the GOAT with two more dungeons and more surface Hyrule.

I think the two cut dungeons ended up in Twilight Princess.

Not sure where more Hyrule went because it definitely didn't show up in the garbage overworld we got with Twilight Princess.

 

[Jack Garland]

I think the two cut dungeons ended up in Twilight Princess.

I always assumed they were repurposed into Snowpeak and Goron Mines - especially with how much the latter uses the Iron Boots. Could be three full dungeons were cut, which makes sense given what we know. Greatfish doesn't have a dungeon (parts used for Lakebed) and then the dungeons to get the power wrists and iron boots. Unless the Boots were going to be in the Greatfish Dungeon, which goes against the Goron Mines-Iron Boots theory.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

I don't get the love for Wind Waker. It's a rushed and incomplete mess that is only held up by nostalgia and the artstyle.

There's more to it, like the story, characters, and dungeon design. Honestly, it's impressive how good the game is despite a large chunk of it was cut.

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

There's more to it, like the story, characters, and dungeon design. Honestly, it's impressive how good the game is despite a large chunk of it was cut.

Yeah, but i feel that applies to most Zelda games, not just WW.

Sunshine, Wind Waker, and
Metroid Prime 2 (First party GCN games) are a rushed and incomplete games that have alot of fans that I've never really understood. I don't hate the games, I just think they are all not as good as people make them out to be. It's more nostalgia propping these games up

 

[Jack Garland]

My 9 year is trying to play the original for the first time and the game's mercilessness is making me laugh.

 

[Betonhaus]

My 9 year is trying to play the original for the first time and the game's mercilessness is making me laugh.

Either that kid gives up in a day or two or that kid ain't going to grow up right. But considering the current definition of "right" is pro-tranny the kid will probably be fine

 

[Jack Garland]

Either that kid gives up in a day or two or that kid ain't going to grow up right. But considering the current definition of "right" is pro-tranny the kid will probably be fine

Oh he'll undoubtedly give up in a day and go back to the LA remake or Echoes.

 

[NerdShamer]

My 9 year is trying to play the original for the first time and the game's mercilessness is making me laugh.

I remember struggling in Minish Cap when I was around his age, he'll be fine

 

[RybenZ999]

This is more about the fanbase than the actual game, so forgive me if I'm derailing, but does anybody else feel like Zelda has one of the "dorkiest" fanbases in existence? No offense to anyone here, and I like the franchise myself, but the general "normie" fanbase is just lame and cringey as fuck.
>Oh my God Nintendo, I'd literally pay a million bucks for an Ocarina of Time remake on Switch!!!
>I just named my kid after a Zelda character!!
>This video game literally defined my entire life
And not to mention the gaudy tattoos and those weird "game dubs" on Youtube. Like don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something you're interested in. But the way these guys express it so plain dorky and fit neatly into the soy reddit stereotype.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

This is more about the fanbase than the actual game, so forgive me if I'm derailing, but does anybody else feel like Zelda has one of the "dorkiest" fanbases in existence? No offense to anyone here, and I like the franchise myself, but the general "normie" fanbase is just lame and cringey as fuck.
>Oh my God Nintendo, I'd literally pay a million bucks for an Ocarina of Time remake on Switch!!!
>I just named my kid after a Zelda character!!
>This video game literally defined my entire life
And not to mention the gaudy tattoos and those weird "game dubs" on Youtube. Like don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being passionate about something you're interested in. But the way these guys express it so plain dorky and fit neatly into the soy reddit stereotype.

That just sounds like the average modern Nintendo consoomer in general. The only reason to single out Zelda if I had to guess is because Zelda has some pretensions of seriousness to it that something like Mario or Animal Crossing doesn't have, so it looks even dorkier for embodiments of soy to be dressing up with it like it makes them cool.

 

[NerdShamer]

but does anybody else feel like Zelda has one of the "dorkiest" fanbases in existence?

From what I've seen: Sonic is infinitely worse, Mario promotes arrested development, Fire Emblem is primarily about the shipping community, Pokemon is furries and sweaty math, and Zelda is just your usual cringe with the timeline bullshit that devs are trolling their fans with.

Kind of depends on your definition on "dorky," tbh.