Legend of Zelda thread - Lorefags GTFO!

[Never Scored]

It doesn't cost substantially more. $60 in 2017 is $75 today due to inflation.

Inflation has been driven primarily by food, real estate and energy. Electronics have not gone up that much in price since 2017. It's also worth pointing out that their other games didn't see a similar increase. The argument Nintendo put forward was this game specifically was so difficult to develop, the price increase was justified.

The price of chips in general has gone up slightly since the pandemic, but their roughly even with 2017 when the game came out. Computer components is one of the few segments of the market that has had deflationary pressure over the years.

This is why a Nintendo Switch at launch was actually substantially cheaper than an SNES at launch when adjusted for inflation. This is why you can buy a TV for less now than you could 20 years ago.

TLDR it is not more expensive because of inflation; it's more expensive because Nintendo can get away with it.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

Inflation has been driven primarily by food, real estate and energy. Electronics have not gone up that much in price since 2017. It's also worth pointing out that their other games didn't see a similar increase. The argument Nintendo put forward was this game specifically was so difficult to develop, the price increase was justified.

The price of chips in general has gone up slightly since the pandemic, but their roughly even with 2017 when the game came out. Computer components is one of the few segments of the market that has had deflationary pressure over the years.

This is why a Nintendo Switch at launch was actually substantially cheaper than an SNES at launch when adjusted for inflation. This is why you can buy a TV for less now than you could 20 years ago.

TLDR it is not more expensive because of inflation; it's more expensive because Nintendo can get away with it.

I think I mentioned it before here, but taking a look at the release prices of other regions for BotW, it seems like NA is the only one that upped the price for TotK.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

Inflation has been driven primarily by food, real estate and energy. Electronics have not gone up that much in price since 2017. It's also worth pointing out that their other games didn't see a similar increase. The argument Nintendo put forward was this game specifically was so difficult to develop, the price increase was justified.

The price of chips in general has gone up slightly since the pandemic, but their roughly even with 2017 when the game came out. Computer components is one of the few segments of the market that has had deflationary pressure over the years.

This is why a Nintendo Switch at launch was actually substantially cheaper than an SNES at launch when adjusted for inflation. This is why you can buy a TV for less now than you could 20 years ago.

TLDR it is not more expensive because of inflation; it's more expensive because Nintendo can get away with it.

You aren't paying $70 for a card with 16gb of flash memory.

 

[Never Scored]

You aren't paying $70 for a card with 16gb of flash memory.

I'm not paying anything for it because I'm not going to buy it as I don't think the price is justified for what it appears to be. I'm in Canada, man. This game is going to be over a hundred fucking dollars with sales tax.

All that aside, you're missing the point about inflation. There is not a precedent for electronic media like video games going up in tandem with CPI. That doesn't mean the cost of video games never go up, just generally not at the same pace of CPI. Stuff like food, real estate and energy have gone up as much as they have recently because of a shortage of real, physical goods.

The inflation argument also ignores the fact that other games coming out around the same time like Pikmin 4 have not gone up in price.

Not to mention the game is developed in Japan which has not seen anywhere near the inflation we have in the West. I think they peaked at around 4%.

I dunno man, saying it costs more because inflation just comes off as a massive fanboy cope. I'm not saying the game won't sell or Nintendo can't charge whatever they want, I'm saying I find it hard to justify the increase in price based on what I saw.

 

[Enig]

I'm in Canada, man.

lol lmao

 

[whatever I feel like]

Not to mention the game is developed in Japan which has not seen anywhere near the inflation we have in the West. I think they peaked at around 4%.

Oh man dude, you are so fucking wrong. The yen has lost something like 20 percent of its value against the dollar in the last five years.

 

[Never Scored]

Oh man dude, you are so fucking wrong. The yen has lost something like 20 percent of its value against the dollar in the last five years.

That only drives inflation if they import a lot of stuff from the US. Here is the recent Japanese inflation data. The fact that the Yen is lower and inflation in Japan is not that high actually supports the argument that the price increase was unnecessary, because the Yen has not lost that much purchasing power at home, and $60 will net more Yen than it would have in 2017.

 

[huecoffs02]

That only drives inflation if they import a lot of stuff from the US. Here is the recent Japanese inflation data. The fact that the Yen is lower and inflation in Japan is not that high actually supports the argument that the price increase was unnecessary, because the Yen has not lost that much purchasing power at home, and $60 will net more Yen than it would have in 2017.

What I am getting from this is that even PS5 and Series games should stay at $60 too, which I would like. I can't fathom GOWR being 60 on PS4 but 70 on PS5.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

I'm not paying anything for it because I'm not going to buy it as I don't think the price is justified for what it appears to be. I'm in Canada, man. This game is going to be over a hundred fucking dollars with sales tax.

All that aside, you're missing the point about inflation. There is not a precedent for electronic media like video games going up in tandem with CPI. That doesn't mean the cost of video games never go up, just generally not at the same pace of CPI. Stuff like food, real estate and energy have gone up as much as they have recently because of a shortage of real, physical goods.

The inflation argument also ignores the fact that other games coming out around the same time like Pikmin 4 have not gone up in price.

Not to mention the game is developed in Japan which has not seen anywhere near the inflation we have in the West. I think they peaked at around 4%.

I dunno man, saying it costs more because inflation just comes off as a massive fanboy cope. I'm not saying the game won't sell or Nintendo can't charge whatever they want, I'm saying I find it hard to justify the increase in price based on what I saw.

It has nothing to do with fanboy cope. Expecting video games to remain at the magical number of $60 forever regardless of what it costs to develop and the value of $60 dollars is goofy.

Pikmin doesn't do Zelda numbers or cost as much to develop.

Zelda is developed in Japan but it's an international product. A fraction of the sales are going to come from the Japanese market.

 

[NerdShamer]

Why can't we just write it off as someone taking advantage of the consoomers?

 

[Friendly Primarina]

I don't get the sperging over inflation. It doesn't matter whether "full price" is $60 or $200. Paying full price for a glorified DLC is ridiculous.

 

[Never Scored]

It has nothing to do with fanboy cope.

Oh I very much disagree.

 

[NerdShamer]

I don't get the sperging over inflation. It doesn't matter whether "full price" is $60 or $200. Paying full price for a glorified DLC is ridiculous.

Because, it's an cope for an mid-generation price hike. Sure, there's the "paying more for an better game" argument; but most of it is just people being angry over something that can be easily resolved by pirating it or just moving onto something else

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

we have no idea what the fuck the story is about

I'm sorry, but what is with all the posts going on about the story? I didn't realize Zelda is a sony property now.

Zelda has never been a series with a deep story, despite what faggy loretubers want to believe.

Speaking of which, there's no reason to play the game for the story because the lorefags will have a million videos up within 3 days.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

I'm sorry, but what is with all the posts going on about the story? I didn't realize Zelda is a sony property now.

Zelda has never been a series with a deep story, despite what faggy loretubers want to believe.

Speaking of which, there's no reason to play the game for the story because the lorefags will have a million videos up within 3 days.

I didn't say anything about the story other than we don't know what it is about, but other than that it is the most obvious difference the game will have, I dont see why it shouldn't be mentioned on a discussion about the sequel to another game.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I didn't say anything about the story other than we don't know what it is about, but other than that it is the most obvious difference the game will have, I dont see why it shouldn't be mentioned on a discussion about the sequel to another game.

In response to "this showcase just looks like DLC" I've heard multiple people dismiss the complaint because "we don't know what the story is yet"

Your post is just the last I saw bringing up story before I decided to reply to the subject.

 

[huecoffs02]

In response to "this showcase just looks like DLC" I've heard multiple people dismiss the complaint because "we don't know what the story is yet"

Your post is just the last I saw bringing up story before I decided to reply to the subject.

I mean, God forbid people want to play through a game's story. A lot of people play games because of the story and don't really like playing non-story games, be it good or deep, or surface level. Probably because of the sense of progression it gives them.

I suppose people bringing it up as a way to counter the narrative that there is nothing new just proves that people care about that as a point of consideration.

 

[Never Scored]

I mean, God forbid people want to play through a game's story. A lot of people play games because of the story and don't really like playing non-story games, be it good or deep, or surface level. Probably because of the sense of progression it gives them.

I suppose people bringing it up as a way to counter the narrative that there is nothing new just proves that people care about that as a point of consideration.

Does writing a better story increase the cost to develop the game by well over 15%?

The biggest issue most people have is it looks exactly like BOTW and it costs more.

 

[huecoffs02]

Does writing a better story increase the cost to develop the game by well over 15%?


The biggest issue most people have is it looks exactly like BOTW and it costs more.

But I am not defending the price hike because of story writing, I am saying that there are people that consider story to be an important point to a game. TotK has people interested in experiencing the story which is my guess as to why it is being used as a counter argument to the narrative that it is glorified DLC. Regardless, it very well could increase the development cost in some cases (probably not this one though).

In fact, a lot of the discussion and arguing over the price is retarded because the $60 price point is arbitrary as hell from the starting point. Still, it has been a talking point for like 7 years now that games should be more expensive than they are because of ballooning development costs.

As consumers, I don't think anyone likes paying more.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

I thought it looked like a lot of fun. It will be neat to explore a familiar world and see how it has changed. I've got no problem with the game being a near-continuation of the first. They made this cool, giant world and sandbox. Why not flesh it out more and keep it going?

Death Mountain had a shit ton of miasma flowing out of it. I hope my Goron buddies are okay. I'm going there first.

Also you niggers arguing inflation. Jesus Christ.