🤝 Community Lolitas - 1000% more backstabbing than you'd expect.

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

The pandemic and current economy has not been kind to the Lolitas. On some old forums and groups I used to be in ita filled with a lot of artists whining about how nobody will buy their custom made $300 gowns and that they can't buy their brand name items from Japan without a long wait.

Right? God forbid fewer people can afford to blow that kind of money on a costume- or worse, people have to wait longer to get their costume that they just blew $500 on for just the dress alone. Those spoiled little brats should realize how fortunate they are to be able to even spend that kind of money frivolously in the first place while many towns and countries are plunged into generation-defining poverty and crisis. Just point that out in nicer phrasing to a group of them and watch them try to bite your ass while doing mental gymnastics like a pack of starved circus dogs.

The coof cutting into most peoples' ability to have costly hobbies sucks and everything, but lolitas have been acting so bizarre about it. You'd think that a situation like this would make them reflect on various aspects of their spoiled princess hobby with some self awareness, but it's had a 100% opposite effect from what I've witnessed and they've just gotten worse about it. The ones I've seen have mostly just been acting more spoiled, more entitled and more self-righteous than ever. Judging by how many of them spend daddybucks, college loans and NEETbux on lolita, it's as though the more they need to stay away from the expensive facade, the harder they lean into it.

 

[Luna Mothews]

This is late af but I love the ingrish on the website of the dress. reads like an awkwardly translated dating sim.

my first print and most exciting thing i've created all year... sweetie gummy jsk!

a super cute high waist cut, subtle sweetheart neckline, with longer skirt lengths than burando...

in a search for the perfect conversation heart print... sweetie was born. do you notice what the candies say?

 

[Red Bean]

guess lor's still beating this dead frilly horse...

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

guess lor's still beating this dead frilly horse...

'If somebody is willing to passive-aggressively vaguepost about you, without naming you at all, maybe they never really had a spine.'

That being said, what in the hell is she even on about this time?

 

[The Joker]

Judging by how many of them spend daddybucks, college loans and NEETbux on lolita, it's as though the more they need to stay away from the expensive facade, the harder they lean into it.

There were actually some lovely threads by many of them back in the day where the EGLs would "call out" girls that wore knockoff brands or thrifted their items from second hand/ trade websites.
A lot of this is why the community has pretty much died since most women are not into the middle school mean girl drama that a lot of them thrive off of.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

There were actually some lovely threads by many of them back in the day where the EGLs would "call out" girls that wore knockoff brands or thrifted their items from second hand/ trade websites.
A lot of this is why the community has pretty much died since most women are not into the middle school mean girl drama that a lot of them thrive off of.

I've noticed that they still flip out over replicas or even somewhat similar pieces (unless it's AP blatantly ripping off some indie brand or a smaller big brand to make their greatest hit) and don't do the greatest job at covering up why they do it. They'll say that it's about quality control one minute, and then the next minute they'll scream about Slow Loris (or whatever they're called) making "knockoff" AP bags that don't peel, despite everyone knowing that AP shoes and bags are notorious for peeling because their quality is so shit. They REEE about capitalism while also screaming about corporate art theft and try to feed people the bullshit line that brands like AP are too small and/or niche, so they don't even really make that much money, u gaiz! You're literally stealing off their kids' plates! It's really obvious elitism and veblen gatekeeping for what is meant to be an entire historical fashion genre, not a club for just a few brands as they warp the entire image. They have no idea how hard they're playing into these companies' monopoly game, if they even care. It really reminds me of Pokemon cards way back when, but even dumber. I didn't give a shit if the other kid's card was fake as long as it was game-kosher, just let us play the fucking game in peace.

I didn't know about them previously using social stigma to make second-hand taboo; it really fits and explains a lot. Imagine being such a spoiled little shit that you try to ostracize anyone who can't afford to spend $400 on a limited edition dress from the other side of the planet they can't wear in front of anyone, all without being able to even find out if it fits first. What did they do when they got something that didn't fit? Are we supposed to believe they threw it away? Or did they do the unthinkable and *gasp!*.... alter BURANDO!?

 

[Fresh Grown Breasts]

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

I'm going to be completely honest upfront and just say that I can't even come up with anything to say that would do this opening visual trainwreck justice. My head is swimming between that "blouse", her shilling Devil Inspired ripoff sales for International Women's Day and her birthday, the furry, all the troons... This is just a lot. She should also probably be careful saying "we do love a plague doctor" after the shitstorms over them I've seen screencaps of modern lolitas making, going so far as to chase people out over it because 'muh corona'. Tagging a video as #CRINGE really doesn't make it less unironically cringy. I'm leaning further than ever towards agreeing that Lor is getting something out of turning herself into a trainwreck on purpose.

I recognized this particular gem of a guest from another source in that lolita group. She's even older than she looks, has multiple kids, pretends to be goth and complains about being broke while buying this shit. I need to start making posts featuring people that others have so graciously given me content on from their closed groups.

 

[The Joker]

complains about being broke while buying this shit

That's half the community.
The community isn't nearly as popular as it was years ago but the diehards are still going strong and hold tight to their values. I recall when a couple girls in hijab would make more conservative gown and there were girls that flipped and claimed that they were destroying the community. That and when a black girl makes better outfits than them. There were countless threads that were deleted after the poster would joke about ghetto lolitas.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

I'm going to be completely honest upfront and just say that I can't even come up with anything to say that would do this opening visual trainwreck justice. My head is swimming between that "blouse", her shilling Devil Inspired ripoff sales for International Women's Day and her birthday, the furry, all the troons... This is just a lot. She should also probably be careful saying "we do love a plague doctor" after the shitstorms over them I've seen screencaps of modern lolitas making, going so far as to chase people out over it because 'muh corona'. Tagging a video as #CRINGE really doesn't make it less unironically cringy. I'm leaning further than ever towards agreeing that Lor is getting something out of turning herself into a trainwreck on purpose.
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I recognized this particular gem of a guest from another source in that lolita group. She's even older than she looks, has multiple kids, pretends to be goth and complains about being broke while buying this shit. I need to start making posts featuring people that others have so graciously given me content on from their closed groups.
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She looks 50.

 

[milkmanagement]

Tyler made a call out video because Of Herbs and Altars called her outfit Lolita when it isnt

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Tyler made a call out video because Of Herbs and Altars called her outfit Lolita when it isnt

• This hypocrite has the gall to trash another attention-whore goth for both being a trashy rave goth and for bastardizing the Victorian-rooted lolita fashion while she herself is an attention-whore fake mall goth covered in plastic dollhouse "jewelry", print, polka-dots, pompom pigtails and somehow managing to not be donning her favorite animal ears. Yeah okay, Tyler.
• Her defense of furries and clearly not knowing/admitting how far gone so many of them are is a little suspicious. She hopped on the lolita train when trash-goth visuals weren't giving her enough attention, so it wouldn't be the biggest stretch in the world to wonder if she's looking at fursuits as the next item on a checklist of drugs.
• Why is Tyler calling Herbs a man? Is Herbs just another comically-female-presenting attention whore of a woman who just says she's a troon for woke points? Is Herbs trolling? Or did a half-hearted troon who still uses his male pronouns find a magic potion to give himself a very clearly female voice that every other troon would kill for?
  Spoiler: like these two woketards

  
• There she goes again crying about muh cultural appropriation while dying on the "it's a Japanese fashion" hill. And of course no one is allowed to talk about her obsession unless they know as much about it as she does. Her elitism that flies in the face of what actual lolita is just keeps growing exponentially.
• She would have a point about the "am I too old for lolita" topic if she were referring to real lolita, aka "old-school", which honestly looks fine on any chick from a nine-year-old to a granny because of how timeless and classy it looks. Shit, the basics it's based on were worn by crusty old aristocratic women for a long time. The stuffed animals, plastic "jewelry", print, misplaced bows, pastels, etc honestly just make it look like a caricature costume of a modern toddler's idea of what they think a princess looks like.
• Yes, Herbs' outfit is a gross joke and a fetishy insult even to modern sweet lolita, but it's still astounding to hear so much bitching from a prominent community figure hellbent on the destruction of class and taste in her own supposed favorite fashion.
• She actually has some good points about lolita being about the femininity of the clothing without being sexual, though the explosion of obnoxious print and other tasteless shit is just that; obnoxious, so she lost the plot on that one. Too bad she's also hellbent on destroying the fashion's safety from perversion by way of encouraging and white-knighting trannies who inevitably bring their coomer libido in with them.
  Spoiler: weirdo furry troons who love to RP and post their $200+ sock hauls and bloomers hauls in lolita comms

  
• I'm at the point where I'm hoping Herbs is trolling. If she is, I'm rooting for her just to trigger the modern lolitas like Tyler while they're autistic enough to yell at someone else for doing it wrong while wearing a fucking gummybear dress. Even if she's not trolling, it's still entertaining to watch the ensuing freakout.
• No, Tyler. The majority of lolitas are not "decent human beings who wouldn't stab you in the dark". Your entire (accurate) presentation of the fashion community is about salt, manipulation and backstabbing. The ones who don't participate in shitty behavior towards each other ignore and enable it every day.

 

[milkmanagement]

• This hypocrite has the gall to trash another attention-whore goth for both being a trashy rave goth and for bastardizing the Victorian-rooted lolita fashion while she herself is an attention-whore fake mall goth covered in plastic dollhouse "jewelry", print, polka-dots, pompom pigtails and somehow managing to not be donning her favorite animal ears. Yeah okay, Tyler.
• Her defense of furries and clearly not knowing/admitting how far gone so many of them are is a little suspicious. She hopped on the lolita train when trash-goth visuals weren't giving her enough attention, so it wouldn't be the biggest stretch in the world to wonder if she's looking at fursuits as the next item on a checklist of drugs.
• Why is Tyler calling Herbs a man? Is Herbs just another comically-female-presenting attention whore of a woman who just says she's a troon for woke points? Is Herbs trolling? Or did a half-hearted troon who still uses his male pronouns find a magic potion to give himself a very clearly female voice that every other troon would kill for?
  Spoiler: like these two woketards

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• There she goes again crying about muh cultural appropriation while dying on the "it's a Japanese fashion" hill. And of course no one is allowed to talk about her obsession unless they know as much about it as she does. Her elitism that flies in the face of what actual lolita is just keeps growing exponentially.
• She would have a point about the "am I too old for lolita" topic if she were referring to real lolita, aka "old-school", which honestly looks fine on any chick from a nine-year-old to a granny because of how timeless and classy it looks. Shit, the basics it's based on were worn by crusty old aristocratic women for a long time. The stuffed animals, plastic "jewelry", print, misplaced bows, pastels, etc honestly just make it look like a caricature costume of a modern toddler's idea of what they think a princess looks like.
• Yes, Herbs' outfit is a gross joke and a fetishy insult even to modern sweet lolita, but it's still astounding to hear so much bitching from a prominent community figure hellbent on the destruction of class and taste in her own supposed favorite fashion.
• She actually has some good points about lolita being about the femininity of the clothing without being sexual, though the explosion of obnoxious print and other tasteless shit is just that; obnoxious, so she lost the plot on that one. Too bad she's also hellbent on destroying the fashion's safety from perversion by way of encouraging and white-knighting trannies who inevitably bring their coomer libido in with them.
  Spoiler: weirdo furry troons who love to RP and post their $200+ sock hauls and bloomers hauls in lolita comms

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• I'm at the point where I'm hoping Herbs is trolling. If she is, I'm rooting for her just to trigger the modern lolitas like Tyler while they're autistic enough to yell at someone else for doing it wrong while wearing a fucking gummybear dress. Even if she's not trolling, it's still entertaining to watch the ensuing freakout.
• No, Tyler. The majority of lolitas are not "decent human beings who wouldn't stab you in the dark". Your entire (accurate) presentation of the fashion community is about salt, manipulation and backstabbing. The ones who don't participate in shitty behavior towards each other ignore and enable it every day.

Herbs is a gender special tard so he/they are the correct pronouns

 

[Luna Mothews]

Christ on a bike, what a fucking cunt. Rate me MOTI but how the fuck do her fans accept this? She's went out of her way to make a 12 minute video full of insults because they have different opinions on a niche fashion subculture? Wasn't she just a month ago decrying cancel culture? I guess it's only okay when you do it, Tyler.
Props to the anorexic troon for triggering Tyler this badly.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Holy shit, her comments section right from the tip of the iceberg is gold.

 

[Natsuki]

The fact that fan only could say it that she's respetings that goth's pronouns tells us everything about the video

 

[66andtwothirds]

what personality types are we dealing with here? are they just mentally subnormal and stuck in primary school-level pettiness or profoundly narcissistic/obsessed with attention?

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

what personality types are we dealing with here? are they just mentally subnormal and stuck in primary school-level pettiness or profoundly narcissistic/obsessed with attention?

Yes, though there are a few rare exceptions. For example...


Here's a perfectly sane-looking woman who looks like a nerd with a respectful and age-appropriate taste for classy, old-tymie fashion without looking like a walking ad for the legalization of child-beatings. I don't know much of anything about her, but I might be able to ask someone to look into her soon to see how consistent her style is and if she posts like a catty lunatic. The fact that I wasn't shown her posts says she probably isn't one of those types, though. If anything, she looks like she needs to wash her hair or cut back on the product.


On the flipside....

Here's an ultra-catty woman-child who will either passive-aggressively negg you or outright make a dogpile on you if you post anything she even remotely dislikes, especially if she can base it on SJWisms. This one claims to be asexual, but will quickly and rabidly inform you that asexuals like to have sex just as much as anyone else. She's also gonna tell you that your normie version of heterosexuality is bad and you should feel bad, because being queer is special and makes them feel fuzzy inside. She's posted an absolute avalanche of selfies from her childish bedroom that all start to look the same after seeing the same psuedo magazine poses and the perpetual blended mess of pastel prints. As much of an insufferable cunt as she is, you've got to appreciate when a person's face advertises their personality accurately.



This one is all kinds of fucked up except for being petty or catty, to my understanding. She's a spoiled brat stuck mentally as a ten year old from a wealthy family, and she hates her financially supportive parents who enable her to live and go to college in the US. Her parents committed the crime of telling her that there's more to who she is as a person than her autism and that she needs to learn financial responsibility. She seems to do nothing but shop all day every day with money from student loans and from her parents. You'd think she'd act like shit towards anyone else who doesn't do whatever she wants them to, but she doesn't. She's actually pretty nice when interacting with group members online. She posts lots of selfies and she's got a TikTok that she posts clips of herself on, so draw your own conclusions about how much she likes attention.

 

[famous living dead]

what personality types are we dealing with here? are they just mentally subnormal and stuck in primary school-level pettiness or profoundly narcissistic/obsessed with attention?

Essentially this, yeah.

This one just makes me sad. She's in her mid 30s, has the dress sense of a colorblind whale who fell in the discount lace bin, and, of course, is a military dependa with no rl friends. With no communication with the outside world, she's become delusional, and in the time of covid, developed a plague doctor fetish. Now she's a degenerate, posting her "plague doctor fashion" and jerking off about how elegant she is. She seems to hate every other lolita, yet is also desperate for their approval. She has "not like other girls" syndrome to the point where she insists she is "not like other lolitas" and can't manage to hold a conversation with them without sperging about her "plague doctor fashion". She's genuinely convinced herself that people should feel blessed by her prancing around in her cheap renfaire larp outfits and like your typical attention whore, did it in the worst place possible - a hospital. Somehow she managed to be too up her own ass even for other lolitas, her chinese sweatshop dresses are FAR SUPERIOR THAN THOSE BRAND WHORE ONES.

She's retarded enough to think she can't leave her house because there's a halfway house down the street, and she thinks walking past it will get her raped. She spent $300 on walmart tier lolita because she has no taste and just wanted to flex her shopping addiction with cheap clothes. She claims she's hopped between a few husbands, but I doubt that's true - the chances of her finding a man to marry even once are astronomical, at least without her parents toting a shotgun.

She's also a super speshul "demisexual" who got triggered hard because someone posted art featuring a nipple and clutched her pearls over it, demanding people not post porn.

 

[Porca Puttana]

She's genuinely convinced herself that people should feel blessed by her prancing around in her cheap renfaire larp outfits and like your typical attention whore, did it in the worst place possible - a hospital.

fuck me don't tell me someone was retarded enough to dress like a plague doctor in a hospital