US Long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes could be delayed into 2024, public health groups fear - They know Biden loses the black vote if he bans menthols, so they will lollygag until after Nov 2024

Long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes could be delayed into 2024, public health groups fear
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By Erika Edwards and Sara G. Miller
2023-12-01 23:34:05GMT

The long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes may not be announced by the end of the year, but pushed to 2024, according to officials from two national public health groups working to remove the products from the market.

Both requested anonymity to discuss the decision ahead of any announcement from the Biden administration. The delay could be announced as early as next week, they suggested.

Officials from the public health groups worry that the ban may be punted well into next year, perhaps even after the November presidential election.

One of the officials was “deeply concerned” that the ban would not be put into place before the 2024 election.

“Everything gets harder to do in an election year because people are distracted and bandwidth is stretched,” the official said.

The White House declined to comment.

A ban on menthol cigarettes has been in the works for more than a decade. A 2013 citizen petition prompted the Food and Drug Administration to ban menthol as a flavor in cigarettes, but rules to finalize a ban have been sluggish.

In January, Brian King, the director of the FDA’s Center for Tobacco Products, said the agency was committed to completing the rulemaking process for the ban in 2023. The FDA went on to miss its own self-imposed deadline of August.

Menthol use predominantly affects people of color.

Nearly 85% of Black smokers use menthols, compared to 30% of white smokers, according to the FDA. Black men and women are far less likely than white Americans to be diagnosed with lung cancer at an earlier stage, when the disease is often more treatable. Black men have the highest lung cancer death rate in the U.S.

Public health groups such as the American Lung Association and the American Heart Association have been vocal about the need for an end to menthol tobacco products.

“The American Lung Association expects the White House to honor President Biden’s commitment to end cancer as we know it through the Cancer Moonshot,” said Erika Sward, assistant vice president for national advocacy at the American Lung Association. It “cannot be achieved unless the White House finalizes” rules banning menthol products.

“Removing these products from the market is backed by strong scientific evidence and hundreds of thousands of public comments from the public health community nationwide,” said Nancy Brown, chief executive officer for the American Heart Association. “The administration should not delay further in putting these rules into effect.”

On Friday, the Food and Drug Administration said that finalizing rules to ban menthol tobacco products “remains a top priority.”

“Final rules such as these go through an extensive rulemaking process, including agency review and consideration of public comments, development of the final rule, and subsequent review by the Department of Health and Human Services and the White House Office of Management and Budget,” an FDA spokesperson said. The OMB has posted the final rules, which is considered the last step before the bans are finalized.

The Biden administration has been conducting ongoing meetings to discuss the issue with the tobacco industry and public health groups.

Menthol cigarettes are notoriously addictive. When inhaled, the menthol produces a cooling sensation in the throat, reducing the irritation of nicotine and the harsh taste of cigarettes, essentially making the cigarettes easier to smoke.

Menthols are also difficult to quit. Menthol smokers successfully quit at lower rates than nonmenthol smokers, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“People are dying. This will save lives. We have the science and data to prove it,” one official said. “It is long past time to take these products off the market.”
 
And what's more it doesn't seem like it's just marijuana, we're looking at a massive wave of light drug legalization that's coming.
How the fuck is kratom or K2 legal, but they're banning menthol cigarretes? Someone will just need to label them as incense instead.
Trump should make it clear to a diverse voting base that only one choice at the ballot box helps them keep their Kools.
They smoke Newports.
 
The process of adding menthol to tobacco isn't some arcane magic, this is absolutely worthless legislation that doesn't even accomplish anything unless they take away menthol additives in general which isn't going to work. What, are they gonna ban fucking Mentos? Are they going to make Tom's Strawberry Toothpaste the only legal thing to brush your teeth with? People know what this shit does to their bodies and they keep doing it anyways, this isn't like 4loko shit where people don't have it hammered into their heads that too much caffeine makes your heart explode.
 
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So, will America just do what Canada did after they banned menthols here and just switch to those stupid pod things that you crack on the filter to give the menthol flavour? I think those are banned here now too but there was a few years in between the menthol ban where those things took their place.
Yeah, menthols are now banned in the UK, but you can still get those filter capsule things.
Menthols were always seen as a women's smoke in the UK, and even then, an acquired taste.
 
So, will America just do what Canada did after they banned menthols here and just switch to those stupid pod things that you crack on the filter to give the menthol flavour? I think those are banned here now too but there was a few years in between the menthol ban where those things took their place.
Those have been on the market in the US for 15 years or so. Marketed as "camel crush". They came on the market around when menthol bans were being discussed, so I wonder now if that wasn't them trying to preemptively get around it.
 
“Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
Something tells me they'll have a lot less of a problem "figuring out" under these circumstances. :story:

I wonder what new and exciting ways this quote will find to age extremely poorly.
 
Gonna become the richest man in the hood. Stockpile on dem newports.
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But they will lose the black vote so they are doing a delay
Nah, you could have Biden legit go on TV and say "We are banning Menthols, KFC and black people from entering the NBA. Fuck you, niggers." and still 99% of black people would vote blue because they legit can't do anything else. There is no reason to please the black vote.
 
Nah, you could have Biden legit go on TV and say "We are banning Menthols, KFC and black people from entering the NBA. Fuck you, niggers." and still 99% of black people would vote blue because they legit can't do anything else. There is no reason to please the black vote.
I can guarantee that they'd change their tune if they cut back on Section 8 and WIC funding.
 
Ban in effect in CA. People mail-order the cigarettes, get them at Indian casinos, bring in from out-of-state, or ask friends/relatives who can shop on base to buy them. This CA law doesn't apply on Federal property, just like local laws outlawing free one-use bags. Make it national, might see cigarettes online from overseas.
 
Ban in effect in CA. People mail-order the cigarettes, get them at Indian casinos, bring in from out-of-state, or ask friends/relatives who can shop on base to buy them. This CA law doesn't apply on Federal property, just like local laws outlawing free one-use bags. Make it national, might see cigarettes online from overseas.
Taxless Cigarettes from across the Boarder might be a good thing for smokers.

It might make them cheaper.
 
Yeah, menthols are now banned in the UK, but you can still get those filter capsule things.
Menthols were always seen as a women's smoke in the UK, and even then, an acquired taste.
I fucking hate menthols. I hate the way they make your mouth and lungs feel numb and cold and I hate the taste. One time I bought one of those THC vape cart things it was mint kush of some shit. I thought it was an actual extract of a mint kush strain but it was actually some distillate garbage with menthol added to it. It was fucking horrible and you can't return those fuckers and they're expensive because of the extra tax on any kind of vape shit they have in Canada.

I think the UK has something similar. All the nicotine vape stuff in Canada is labeled as the UK/CA version.


Those have been on the market in the US for 15 years or so. Marketed as "camel crush". They came on the market around when menthol bans were being discussed, so I wonder now if that wasn't them trying to preemptively get around it.
Probably. I think that's around the time the menthol ban came into affect up here. I know that's why they started selling them here because the ban didn't include them up until a few years ago. I knew someone who smoked menthols who was pissed when the ban came in and switched to those capsule things but complained they weren't the same.
 
They put way more warnings on cigarettes than they do on pot. I wonder why the government would push one over the other?
Weird cultural holdover from when it was still illegal for recreational use maybe. Everyone is still pretending weed is always used for medical purposes. You're not getting stoned, you're "medicating" yourself. When you buy an eighth of some super turbo skywalker haze indo flower that's 30% THC and 0% CBD, you'll pretend you're totally not gonna smoke that, you're gonna make a fucking ointment or a single gingerbread cookie edible cuz weed heals yo, nevermind the fact that what you got is specifically bred to blow your brain into the stratosphere and knock you out on your couch, and your fellow stoners will give you the wink wink. In illegal countries THC weed seeds are sold as "souvenirs" and "under no circumstances intended for planting or growing" and some seed banks love to LARP as souvenir stores.

Basically anything and everything to distract from the reality of how 99% of weedbros use it. I've even read bullshit about how weed smoke (which is infinitely harsher than cigarette smoke) actually doesn't harm you at all and anything about smoking being bad is big tobacco propaganda. I think it's just gonna take a long time until governments wake up and stop letting weedfags get away from the legal assraping tobacco smokers are subjected to.
 
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