Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[janedoe]

lesbian friend of mine talking about trooning out. i'm afraid it's another case of a woman who feel they can't match up to beauty standards as well as internalized homophobia.

Spoiler: sad bitch rambling

i confess i used to have similar thoughts when i was growing up, being a closeted lesbian, so it's pretty disheartening and jarring to see this happening to someone else. it sucks so hard, i don't know. i just remember thinking anything would be better than being a lesbian. as if lesbians were just this gross undesirable thing. and i imagine now adays it's even harder to just be at peace with being a lesbian, when lesbians pretty much take the backseat to any and all discussions of faggotry.

i don't have any connection to gay communities outside occasional dips in the dating pool, but this person in particular is surrounded by california gays, trannies, etc. as much of a lesbian as they are, they do love throwing women under the bus whenever it comes to defending gay men and trannies, so i have a very strong suspicion they have a lot of internalized hatred from brainwashing.

it's just weird to me. i always laugh at feminist rhetoric, but it's hard not to notice that it's always WOMAN THIS WOMAN THAT except when it's a gay woman. maybe i'm being over dramatic. however, i am 'straight passing', dress very feminine and no one even knows i'm gay unless i invite a gf around. i couldn't imagine how much it sucks ass to be a girl who doesn't adhere to whatever is popular to look like right now, overly filtered instagram hoe type shit. or god forbid, being a tomboy.

it just sucks to see someone can't be comfortable as themself. i don't know, this hit too close to home for me and made me sadder than it should. it's not my life. they can do what they want, they're a grown ass bitch.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Does losing authors to transgenderism count in this thread? Because every new book I've read in the past year HAS to have someone with they/them pronouns. In sci-fi and fantasy, like maybe I could squint and pretend it's justified. But I just read a goddamn KIDS book with a they/thembie in it. By a megapopular author too. Fuck's sake. All I can do is maybe write a letter to the author or publisher. But that feels as effective as farting in the wind.

Which kid book? I'm Savonarola for my family and keep a list of disreputable titles to avoid.

You guys, my best friend just told me her 10/11 year old (I don’t know how old exactly but in that range, definitely under 13) nephew wants “she/her pronouns” and a new name and I just truly cannot. I mean first of all, what do I even say in response? She knows where I’m at on this, in general at least, but told me in a neutral way that wasn’t alluding to how fucked I think the whole thing is, but ew, dudes.
He’s a little fucking kid who’s been told things are possible that are not and I can’t.
And from what she’s told me he’s a little awkward and on the small side for his age, I haven’t spend enough time around him to armchair diagnose him as autistic but it kinda fits from what I’ve heard, and I really have not a single positive thing I can think to say.
His parents are primo bad-decision makers, I could totally see them jumping wholeheartedly on the trans-kid train and giving him blockers or whatever stupid shit, too.
Ugh.

Why harm yourself by being "best friends" with a clueless moron who will sacrifice her small child to the latest destructive trend? If you're going to tarnish your personal reputation by associating with such a complete and utter amoral retard, at least use her gullibility in your/the kid's favor and steer her right. Go for broke- what do you have to lose?

 

[Madame Souza]

Wouldn't this make them easier for you to micro-manage them to take the right decisions? I mean, it's not your responsibility. But it sound like you care about the kid.

Nah, it’s her brother and SIL’s family, I’m not close to them. I know them both and their kids, but 95% of the information I have about them and their shenanigans is secondhand (plus I live far away anyways).

And they’re bad at making decisions in like the kind of way that can’t be reasoned with—they’re not like drug addicts or unemployed welfare trailer trash or anything, they just do dumb things like get a dog, realize it’s all too much and it’s not working out and give the dog to someone else, and then get another dog like six months later and do the same thing.

I am thinking of just bringing up side effects of blockers with my friend and studies that show most kids grow out of it in hopes she’ll send it along, it seems like all I can really do without overstepping.

Why harm yourself by being "best friends" with a clueless moron who will sacrifice her small child to the latest destructive trend? If you're going to tarnish your personal reputation by associating with such a complete and utter amoral retard, at least use her gullibility in your/the kid's favor and steer her right. Go for broke- what do you have to lose?

I thought I was pretty clear that it’s my best friend’s NEPHEW, not her kid, but I guess I was not. It’s her brother’s kid, I’m not close with them, and she probably hasn’t got much more say into how they choose to parent their kids than I do.

I’m just in a position of being at a loss with what to say to her in response to this news without coming off like a conspiracy theorist, not with what I should do for the kid.

 

[fuknhek]

Which kid book? I'm Savonarola for my family and keep a list of disreputable titles to avoid.


Why harm yourself by being "best friends" with a clueless moron who will sacrifice her small child to the latest destructive trend? If you're going to tarnish your personal reputation by associating with such a complete and utter amoral retard, at least use her gullibility in your/the kid's favor and steer her right. Go for broke- what do you have to lose?

One of the latest Dav Pilkey books.

It's just a brief mention of a character with they/them pronouns, but it's enough to piss me off. Can we keep the gender fuckiness out of kids' books please?

 

[jellygender]

One of the latest Dav Pilkey books.

It's just a brief mention of a character with they/them pronouns, but it's enough to piss me off. Can we keep the gender fuckiness out of kids' books please?

I think this is also the same one that tells kids to "look under [your] clothes and realize we're all the same", has a kid saying something to a sibling about drawing "full frontal nudity", other weird gender references. We used to buy these despite the incessant pee/poop references, but Pilkey/the publishers are clearly leaning into the gender blobbery now, so no more. These books are targeting early/mid elementary, say grades 1-4... ridiculous.

 

[DancesWithLeto]

Spoiler: dear diary i'm a retard

I don't know if this is the right place to post this; I didn't think it bothered me but it has and I just want to dump it off my brain or chest then forget it ever happened. I did think about sending an invite to a throwaway email but I would still have to be vague and I'm just too lazy.

I don't know if you could say I lost people who were already troons, but you think they are one of the 'good' ones. They don't do the whole TRA shit and don't like it. They don't even care if you misgender people because they agree that some people are full of shit. But you make your beliefs public. You aren't playing along with the troon stuff in public and would be called a TERF in public despite the fact they know you hate all the radical feminist theory (and it isn't even to do with trannies, you just don't believe in it either). Basically, you are impolite. You tell them horror stories that you, or close friends, have dealt with from TRAs that got you to this point - not just screenshots or things other people have said, but things you have experienced. You. A person they consider a close, and real, friend. They agree that is bad and no one should experience that. But you are meant to be quiet about it. You can't be angry, or hurt, or dislike ideologies/theories. You have shattered the illusion. When it comes to choosing between you, a friend that they know deep down would defend them and stand by them even if they don't believe in your shit (but respect and love you for you) or trannies on the internet: its trannies. I know that they could have sent the horde after me rather than just cut me off, and there is a part of me that thinks deep down you know its fucked up to choose this - internet strangers - over a friend that has always been there and would have always been there for you.

One of the last things that I had said to me was "well you wouldn't take up with the TERFs would you?" and then I realized it was all this black and white thinking. Even with the good ones. I could write a novel on why I dislike one theory as much as I can't stand queer theory but you aren't getting through to this autistic thinking. Calling me a 'terf' is stupid and I don't mean it in the way most people say it; I don't fit in anywhere, including with them and I am fine with that. It isn't just tranny/terf stuff. I have never been popular or trendy and being in any community like that, to me, means that you really have to give up part of yourself to fit in. Its so fucking retarded. I have my groups of friends who like me for me and I don't need to be liked on the internet by strangers. Its so retarded to me that I even have to say that. Former friend is now posting how non binary is valid which just makes me laugh as it is the kind of thing they would have laughed at before. So there are no 'good' ones. It doesn't matter if you consider the person a friend, a real friend, and it doesn't matter if you tell them what you personally have experienced (or what people around you have experienced). What matters are troons. What hurt - and really hurt writing this - was that I actually did see you as a person. But I was always a potential TERF.

I've been on the receiving end of the egg shit. How my personality is so 'strong' or my interests are so 'male'. You can't make jokes to trannies, especially about yourself. Like most of my friends or partners have always made jokes that "oh, Dances is just a guy with tits, she's not going to go for that/oh Dances is up in her boy cave/oh Dances is off being a boy again". 10 years ago no-one would have made a big deal out of it but now its this huge thing. Non binaries make me feel for the first time like I've become a not like the other girls; I don't know how many times I had trannies try to pigeonhole me into enby shit (or a closeted trans man) and its so dumb. Why am I attaching gender to my interests? No one else has ever treated me differently, unless you take a bit of teasing seriously and people do tease you if they like you.

But the drip feed of how I wasn't really 'female' was always there. Not with a personality like mine. It was always centered on my personality. And again, I don't like fitting in anywhere. Not with trannies and not with TERFs so again, you feel like for the first time ever you have become Not Like Other Girls. Gender has just always been retarded to me, but maybe if I was a different kind of person I would have bought into it. It is fine at my age, as a grown woman, saying "well fuck it, I'm just me and I'll make my own theme park, with blackjack!" and retiring with my friends. But when you're younger, that sense of isolation - man, if even I feel like I'm standing at a fork in the road and I know I don't fit in anywhere, it must suck harder when you just want friends. Or to date.

This probably seems disjointed and it might not have been the right place to post it, if anywhere is. I didn't think it bothered me or upset me. It isn't the first friend I've lost in my lifetime and it won't be the last. Shit happens. Life goes on. But it clearly has upset me and I would rather just do my little gay moping dear diary entry, never look at it again and go back to laughing at trannies. I don't come on the Farms to be serious, I come on here to have a laugh and its clearly under my skin so I just want to vomit this out and move on. I just wish that learning there are no good ones hadn't come in the form of losing a friend but life's cruel sometimes and sometimes you need to learn the hard way I guess.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

One of the latest Dav Pilkey books.

It's just a brief mention of a character with they/them pronouns, but it's enough to piss me off. Can we keep the gender fuckiness out of kids' books please?

His stuff always gave me creeper vibes. It's one thing to have a little puerile humor, another thing to be like lol underpants lmao butts lmao poop hahahahahaha naked butts poop lololol. Kind of points to a diseased set of preoccupations.

 

[Habbiegedah]

I think this is the right place to put this here, but sorry if it isn't. I'm looking for some advice here, how to stop a ftm family member from getting top surgery

Spoiler

Basically, this relative is 16 -- i think she's been on hormones for a year and puberty blockers for maybe 2 before that. Already some damage done. I was told that she's getting top surgery, or more like a breast reduction since she's almost entirely flat-chested naturally. The operation is still going to take out her breast tissue and the other bits despite there not being much to begin with.
One parent is totally on board (I think they think it's benefical for her, and I'm not mad. ignorance is bliss) and the other is very much not and I can tell needs help. Without revealing too much about myself, I'm at a position where I could get her to listen and hopefully really think about her desicion. She has depression and her therapist and friends are encouraging this instead of helping her love herself as is. I feel a moral obligation at this point to really make an effort. In the past I wasn't really aware of how bad all this was and now hearing this it doesn't feel right to not try to discuss it with her.
So, how best could I sugar coat reality to her? I've read detrans stories that already tell why it's not a cure for her body issues, but I don't think it's enough when she's addicted to social media and half her friends are trans. Tnx all & if nothing else it was good to let this out

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

So uh, I met another one at work today. Not as much loosing but I thought this would be sad and funny. Sometimes truth is sometimes stranger than fiction since this sounds like shitty commic or fiction written by the opressed LGBTQ+ community on reddit defeating the bigiots.

Spoiler: Sperging

So I'm doing some inventory/order work outside and as I'm coming into the office, there's an extended family of 5 with their 95(?) year old grandmother to buy some products from us. It (biologically male) almost got shot by me in less than a minute in for going full "It's MAAM!" on my co-worker (she's in her 70s) and trying to punch her gunt style because she called them "Sir". Failed miserably so I didn't need to draw. Co-worker rightfully nopes the fuck outof here to get the GM while I try to keep this idiot from starting shit. Kept speaking over their grandmother, and told me straight up "Look at her, this is the shit I have to deal with, she's retarded mentally 90% of the time". All while the grandmother is paying for his life expenses and this non insignificant purchase of over 5000 USD.

Asked me what that nice looking tree outside was and my reply was "Chaste tree" (actual common name). Goes immediately into a rage and tries to Lowtiergod vs Viscant staredown me without realizing I have a drawn firearm.

Immediately get asked to leave by our GM after seeing the confrontation. Proceeds to scream and rant about lack of "transgender support" in a town of 10k, guns yadda yadda..... In the deep rural south where you'd be looking for a whoppin by the "good ole boys club" for swearing. Work crew shows up because they can hear the yelling and ain't no fucker calling 911 when cops are on average 30+ minutes away.
The younger relative apologizes. I feel bad for them since that relative is just batshit insane, it is also telling none of them bothered to video the whole thing. Still got paid since the older lady bought around 2000 USD of stuff so I guess it was worth the retardation?

To recap: 5'6" mini Ethan Ralph, with gunt, manboobs and terrible makeup in a lady's XXXXL skirt against:

Our GM who has a .44 Mag
Me with a 7.62x25
70s boomer lady who's still physically fit enough to use an axe regularly.
A work crew of physically fit (10+) wetbacks.

Too bad he wasn't in town. At the rate he's going, that is gonna be a "lynched 100% speedrun" faster than a black man in the 1900s south and I would've watch purely to see the hilarity.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

So uh, I met another one at work today. Not as much loosing but I thought this would be sad and funny. Sometimes truth is sometimes stranger than fiction since this sounds like shitty commic or fiction written by the opressed LGBTQ+ community on reddit defeating the bigiots.

Spoiler: Sperging

So I'm doing some inventory/order work outside and as I'm coming into the office, there's an extended family of 5 with their 95(?) year old grandmother to buy some products from us. It (biologically male) almost got shot by me in less than a minute in for going full "It's MAAM!" on my co-worker (she's in her 70s) and trying to punch her gunt style because she called them "Sir". Failed miserably so I didn't need to draw. Co-worker rightfully nopes the fuck outof here to get the GM while I try to keep this idiot from starting shit. Kept speaking over their grandmother, and told me straight up "Look at her, this is the shit I have to deal with, she's retarded mentally 90% of the time". All while the grandmother is paying for his life expenses and this non insignificant purchase of over 5000 USD.

Asked me what that nice looking tree outside was and my reply was "Chaste tree" (actual common name). Goes immediately into a rage and tries to Lowtiergod vs Viscant staredown me without realizing I have a drawn firearm.

Immediately get asked to leave by our GM after seeing the confrontation. Proceeds to scream and rant about lack of "transgender support" in a town of 10k, guns yadda yadda..... In the deep rural south where you'd be looking for a whoppin by the "good ole boys club" for swearing. Work crew shows up because they can hear the yelling and ain't no fucker calling 911 when cops are on average 30+ minutes away.
The younger relative apologizes. I feel bad for them since that relative is just batshit insane, it is also telling none of them bothered to video the whole thing. Still got paid since the older lady bought around 2000 USD of stuff so I guess it was worth the retardation?

To recap: 5'6" mini Ethan Ralph, with gunt, manboobs and terrible makeup in a lady's XXXXL skirt against:

Our GM who has a .44 Mag
Me with a 7.62x25
70s boomer lady who's still physically fit enough to use an axe regularly.
A work crew of physically fit (10+) wetbacks.

Too bad he wasn't in town. At the rate he's going, that is gonna be a "lynched 100% speedrun" faster than a black man in the 1900s south and I would've watch purely to see the hilarity.

I feel for the family and especially the old lady Some of the MTFs are such raging violent narcs its almost unbelievable. I wouldn't have believed this story 10 years ago, but I've seen so many AGP freakouts since I'm sure it happened exactly as you described it.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I feel for the family and especially the old lady Some of the MTFs are such raging violent narcs its almost unbelievable. I wouldn't have believed this story 10 years ago, but I've seen so many AGP freakouts since I'm sure it happened exactly as you described it.

What's interesting is the disappearance of the "Masculine gays" from culture. I'm not sure how to explain it, but gachimuchi is a great example. When's the last time you saw a flaming gay homosexual who could change his own oil and didn't look/act like an effeminate faggot with twig arms? Right now its more like a 100:1 ratio of faggots to these "masculine" gays who are actually men attracted to men and not effeminate men pretending to be women.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What's interesting is the disappearance of the "Masculine gays" from culture. I'm not sure how to explain it, but gachimuchi is a great example. When's the last time you saw a flaming gay homosexual who could change his own oil and didn't look/act like an effeminate faggot with twig arms? Right now its more like a 100:1 ratio of faggots to these "masculine" gays who are actually men attracted to men and not effeminate men pretending to be women.

That possibly tracks with the apparent trend in society, away from masculinity and toward effeminacy and uselessness. Otherwise, the more masculine homos are either settled into relationships, or just staying quiet because they don't want to be associated with the lispy faggots.

 

[123123ofno]

So uh, I met another one at work today. Not as much loosing but I thought this would be sad and funny. Sometimes truth is sometimes stranger than fiction since this sounds like shitty commic or fiction written by the opressed LGBTQ+ community on reddit defeating the bigiots.

Spoiler: Sperging

So I'm doing some inventory/order work outside and as I'm coming into the office, there's an extended family of 5 with their 95(?) year old grandmother to buy some products from us. It (biologically male) almost got shot by me in less than a minute in for going full "It's MAAM!" on my co-worker (she's in her 70s) and trying to punch her gunt style because she called them "Sir". Failed miserably so I didn't need to draw. Co-worker rightfully nopes the fuck outof here to get the GM while I try to keep this idiot from starting shit. Kept speaking over their grandmother, and told me straight up "Look at her, this is the shit I have to deal with, she's retarded mentally 90% of the time". All while the grandmother is paying for his life expenses and this non insignificant purchase of over 5000 USD.

Asked me what that nice looking tree outside was and my reply was "Chaste tree" (actual common name). Goes immediately into a rage and tries to Lowtiergod vs Viscant staredown me without realizing I have a drawn firearm.

Immediately get asked to leave by our GM after seeing the confrontation. Proceeds to scream and rant about lack of "transgender support" in a town of 10k, guns yadda yadda..... In the deep rural south where you'd be looking for a whoppin by the "good ole boys club" for swearing. Work crew shows up because they can hear the yelling and ain't no fucker calling 911 when cops are on average 30+ minutes away.
The younger relative apologizes. I feel bad for them since that relative is just batshit insane, it is also telling none of them bothered to video the whole thing. Still got paid since the older lady bought around 2000 USD of stuff so I guess it was worth the retardation?

To recap: 5'6" mini Ethan Ralph, with gunt, manboobs and terrible makeup in a lady's XXXXL skirt against:

Our GM who has a .44 Mag
Me with a 7.62x25
70s boomer lady who's still physically fit enough to use an axe regularly.
A work crew of physically fit (10+) wetbacks.

Too bad he wasn't in town. At the rate he's going, that is gonna be a "lynched 100% speedrun" faster than a black man in the 1900s south and I would've watch purely to see the hilarity.

Carrying something in 7,62x25 is an interesting choice

 

[anti SJW]

A friend I knew for over 30 years, said He felt He was a women and wanted MTF surgery.. He was married at the time His wife loved Him the way He was. Wife got terminal cancer after he started hormone treatment, ect..

My friend was more upset that he had to stop His MTF treatment to take care of His wife with terminal cancer than He was about His wife. All He did was complain how he was being held back to being who he really was because the wife had cancer.

I'm no longer His friend, not because of him wanting a sex change, but because how he was more worried about himself that his sick wife.

Fuck Him.

 

[Vingle]

I'm no longer His friend, not because of him wanting a sex change, but because how he was more worried about himself that his sick wife.

It is such a good thing that incompetent men never get a gf nowadays, so this horrible thing has less chance to happen.

 

[deerPropaganda]

I had a close friend (ftm) who trooned out 9ish years ago. I first met them just before they trooned and he was fine for a bit after, pretty much the same person. He very suddenly cut contact with everyone about 7 years ago and moved to a different town. I recently found him on social media, talked to him for a bit, and found out that he is a completely different person now.

We used to send each other gore videos and he's the one that got me into lolcows, but now hes just another brainwashed sjw. As gay as this may sound, I respect his pronouns because I hold out hope that he will be the person he once was but I know he'll never be the same. I miss him, he was one of the few people I knew irl that wasn't pc and I saw him as one of my only best friends that I have ever had.

 

[Perun]

I think this is the right place to put this here, but sorry if it isn't. I'm looking for some advice here, how to stop a ftm family member from getting top surgery

Spoiler

Basically, this relative is 16 -- i think she's been on hormones for a year and puberty blockers for maybe 2 before that. Already some damage done. I was told that she's getting top surgery, or more like a breast reduction since she's almost entirely flat-chested naturally. The operation is still going to take out her breast tissue and the other bits despite there not being much to begin with.
One parent is totally on board (I think they think it's benefical for her, and I'm not mad. ignorance is bliss) and the other is very much not and I can tell needs help. Without revealing too much about myself, I'm at a position where I could get her to listen and hopefully really think about her desicion. She has depression and her therapist and friends are encouraging this instead of helping her love herself as is. I feel a moral obligation at this point to really make an effort. In the past I wasn't really aware of how bad all this was and now hearing this it doesn't feel right to not try to discuss it with her.
So, how best could I sugar coat reality to her? I've read detrans stories that already tell why it's not a cure for her body issues, but I don't think it's enough when she's addicted to social media and half her friends are trans. Tnx all & if nothing else it was good to let this out

Show her some female body builders, they end up pretty much flat chested if they were small breasted to begin with. Tell her she will lose the breasts if she starts lifting and that will help her "pass" too. Show her pics of male and female lifters pecs, plenty of those men have more soft looking tissue there when the muscle isn't flexed that looks bigger than many women's breasts, maybe she will realise men aren't completely flat on top either. That way she won't see you as an enemy opposing her transition and at least lifting won't do her any harm. You can say it will make her chest and shoulders wider, you can say she can go with surgery if this doesn't work but suggest she try this first.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I think this is the right place to put this here, but sorry if it isn't. I'm looking for some advice here, how to stop a ftm family member from getting top surgery

Spoiler

Basically, this relative is 16 -- i think she's been on hormones for a year and puberty blockers for maybe 2 before that. Already some damage done. I was told that she's getting top surgery, or more like a breast reduction since she's almost entirely flat-chested naturally. The operation is still going to take out her breast tissue and the other bits despite there not being much to begin with.
One parent is totally on board (I think they think it's benefical for her, and I'm not mad. ignorance is bliss) and the other is very much not and I can tell needs help. Without revealing too much about myself, I'm at a position where I could get her to listen and hopefully really think about her desicion. She has depression and her therapist and friends are encouraging this instead of helping her love herself as is. I feel a moral obligation at this point to really make an effort. In the past I wasn't really aware of how bad all this was and now hearing this it doesn't feel right to not try to discuss it with her.
So, how best could I sugar coat reality to her? I've read detrans stories that already tell why it's not a cure for her body issues, but I don't think it's enough when she's addicted to social media and half her friends are trans. Tnx all & if nothing else it was good to let this out

Well don't sugarcoat would be my first advice. Second, the common wisdom from doctors and mental health experts always used to be "don't make an unalterable life-changing decision while in the middle of a mood episode." No getting married to a guy you just met in Vegas while manic. No cutting off healthy body parts while depressed. There is no down side to putting off this surgery. You get more time to think, time to get mentally healthy, time to explore other options, time to save money and shop for a better deal, time to hoard vacation hours- from the smallest to the biggest aspects, every part of this will benefit, not suffer harm, from waiting. Wait a year and see how you feel then. But not just passively, do some constructive changes to make life better in the mean time, to see if surgery really is your only option- same thing as would go for someone considering weight loss surgery or other elective procedures. Get fit, lift weights, join a club to get out of the house more. The surgery will still be an option next year. Just put it off and try other options first. Because once you do it, you cannot undo it. And even if you don't change your mind, there are other things to regret about rushing into it. You could get a botched job. Suffer complications and miss a lot of fun stuff resting at home. Get nerve damage and be in pain for the rest of your life, or lymphedema and lose the use of one of your arms. So waiting is a safe bet.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Carrying something in 7,62x25 is an interesting choice

I grew up with family from the comblock. I'd be more capable carrying a 7.62x25 (or 9x18, although I feel it is an odd round) over 9x19 any day.

That possibly tracks with the apparent trend in society, away from masculinity and toward effeminacy and uselessness. Otherwise, the more masculine homos are either settled into relationships, or just staying quiet because they don't want to be associated with the lispy faggots.

I think they got pushed out. Kinda like fire & brimstone preachers got replaced by sleazy car-salesmen tier televangelists.

 

[get_ur_gamon]

GOOD NEWS!!! About a year ago I made a post here about a GNC friend from high school who ended up trooning out (FTM). They were also obsessed with anime boys and yaoi.

It's been about 4 years since they "came out" and they are now detransitioning! It wasn't a big announcement but I heard from mutual friends that they were just kinda confused about the whole thing and wanted to pause treatment.

She's gone from He/him to they/them apparently, and she refered to herself as a woman on her snapchat story recently. Unfortunately she was on T for most of those 4 years but I really am relieved that she didn't go further. She seem to just be enjoying life as a GNC woman.

While she probably won't, I hope she sues the scumbags who did this to her. Teachers at school also played a big part love bombing her.

But yeah. There is still hope.