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Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism
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Mostly fatties in the deathfat-threads.
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I've lost two friends to the tranny blight. One was a woman I knew who was somehow even more autistic than I was and had home life issues. I actually had a stupid crush on that one (when she was a woman.) and thought I could "fix" her issues. Then she went trans. Then she went SJW, going on about how shit white men are and all that bullshit. Which hurt. I never did anything bad to this woman but now she was slagging me and people like me off like she didn't even know me.
The other one was actually someone I knew when I was more cucked and liberal. They were also a woman pretending to be a man. I knew them after she started transitioning. And I was just happy to have a friend who shared similar interests to me. We'd talk about autistic shit like Might & Magic, Wizardry and various MMOs. Good shit. Then they made a drama about me forgetting their pronouns which kept fucking changing and I got cancelled by my friend group at the time. That hurt too.
Fuck it I hate this bullshit. It's a sickness. I wish it didn't hurt people and I wish it didn't take friends away from me. I wish sick fucks on this very forum didn't defend it. I wish for a lot of shit I don't get. Just need to move on.
The other one was actually someone I knew when I was more cucked and liberal. They were also a woman pretending to be a man. I knew them after she started transitioning. And I was just happy to have a friend who shared similar interests to me. We'd talk about autistic shit like Might & Magic, Wizardry and various MMOs. Good shit. Then they made a drama about me forgetting their pronouns which kept fucking changing and I got cancelled by my friend group at the time. That hurt too.
Fuck it I hate this bullshit. It's a sickness. I wish it didn't hurt people and I wish it didn't take friends away from me. I wish sick fucks on this very forum didn't defend it. I wish for a lot of shit I don't get. Just need to move on.
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On one hand i have a fairly laid back attitude of who gives a shit just as long as they aren't creeps. The amount of people i know through the internet and Irl that aren't creeps and trans is low.
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Actually hilarious when the one dad talked about his son wanting hormones to magically become an UwU anime girl
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I'm still in the process of listening to this podcast, but I noticed that our famed Tommy Tooter is going around in this comment section being a trans-apologist. Pretty funny that he's already been told to fuck off.Actually hilarious when the one dad talked about his son wanting hormones to magically become an UwU anime girl
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I have a friend who I've known for over a decade, who I don't speak to very frequently anymore but still consider a bro who I can call for a drink or to play video games with at any time. Anyway, a couple years ago I remember him saying to me that he was questioning his gender identity a bit, and in the past year I've noticed a lot of his profile pics on social media and gaming platforms have changed to those weird troony-toon androgynous avatars that are common in the Twittersphere. And I'm now scared to directly ask him about this topic because I'm guessing he now identifies as non-binary or some shit, but I don't talk to him often enough anymore for this to come up in conversation.
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I have two stories.
One of my female friends from middle school, who I don't talk to anymore, came out as nonbinary and started using they/them pronouns. Her name is Alex instead of her birthname. She told my best friend (who's in contact with her) about this change. The last time I saw her in person was during my sophomore year, her hair reached to her ears, dressed like a tomboy, and was a lesbian. She says she's a 'nonbinary lesbian' which I do not understand.
My guy friend, who I have been friends with since freshman year, is implying that he's trooning out. All my current friends have a group chat together and he revealed that he's going to start using she/her pronouns. My two other friends were congratulating him and he said that he can't wait to buy feminine clothes. About a few months ago, he posted a picture in the group chat with his nails painted. I shrugged it off at first, didn't care that he painted his nails, but maybe that was a sign that he's trooning out.
One of my female friends from middle school, who I don't talk to anymore, came out as nonbinary and started using they/them pronouns. Her name is Alex instead of her birthname. She told my best friend (who's in contact with her) about this change. The last time I saw her in person was during my sophomore year, her hair reached to her ears, dressed like a tomboy, and was a lesbian. She says she's a 'nonbinary lesbian' which I do not understand.
My guy friend, who I have been friends with since freshman year, is implying that he's trooning out. All my current friends have a group chat together and he revealed that he's going to start using she/her pronouns. My two other friends were congratulating him and he said that he can't wait to buy feminine clothes. About a few months ago, he posted a picture in the group chat with his nails painted. I shrugged it off at first, didn't care that he painted his nails, but maybe that was a sign that he's trooning out.
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its the new era, no goths, no emos, no drags, only troons
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This is perhaps less a 'loss' and more a sharing of someone I had known for several years. They were someone who also played the same MMO as myself, ended up joining our group and was a pretty good writer. Overall a nice person though it was very clear they were young. They always presented themselves as male though it was clear to nearly everyone present that they knew they weren't. It wasn't a terribly big issue since their sex was totally irrelevant to just playing the game and this was before The Trooning had truly begun to really spread.
They were a young woman who was quite sweet, bright, and had a deep love of history. To avoid getting too TMI I'll simply say the history they were most interested in is rather ancient and certainly one that was more masculine dominated. As time went on it became more and more clear that their desire to be male stemmed from that fascination with the culture, and a desire to be like that.
She was a student in college (as most are when they troon) but at the time it was still not widely accepted so they were genuinely mocked and mistreated for it. In retrospect I realized there were many times they spoke to myself and others in private and were listening to us. If I had the stomach and the courage for it I could have helped them come to be more comfortable with their femininity. They were a reasonably attractive young woman, clearly bright, and had their whole life ahead of them. Sadly they ended up gravitating towards more super liberal groups and eventually they flaked on us entirely.
I think about them from time to time and worry, have they deeply harmed their body? Is it too late? Are they such a frothing mad supporter of the doctrine that they'd not even speak to me anymore?
It's likely not worth my energy spent thinking on it but I do hope they're doing better, I hope they found peace with themselves. Sadly I don't think they have, if anything they've likely mutilated themselves in their mad dash to make themselves like their object of fascination.
They were a young woman who was quite sweet, bright, and had a deep love of history. To avoid getting too TMI I'll simply say the history they were most interested in is rather ancient and certainly one that was more masculine dominated. As time went on it became more and more clear that their desire to be male stemmed from that fascination with the culture, and a desire to be like that.
She was a student in college (as most are when they troon) but at the time it was still not widely accepted so they were genuinely mocked and mistreated for it. In retrospect I realized there were many times they spoke to myself and others in private and were listening to us. If I had the stomach and the courage for it I could have helped them come to be more comfortable with their femininity. They were a reasonably attractive young woman, clearly bright, and had their whole life ahead of them. Sadly they ended up gravitating towards more super liberal groups and eventually they flaked on us entirely.
I think about them from time to time and worry, have they deeply harmed their body? Is it too late? Are they such a frothing mad supporter of the doctrine that they'd not even speak to me anymore?
It's likely not worth my energy spent thinking on it but I do hope they're doing better, I hope they found peace with themselves. Sadly I don't think they have, if anything they've likely mutilated themselves in their mad dash to make themselves like their object of fascination.
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Have a good friend from school who used to get bullied for being a weird girl alot. She's now a performative "activist" and advocates children getting put on hormones. We both used to be edgy teenagers who simply weren't comfortable with femininity. I grew out of it, but apparently she didn't. I never know how to deal with her nowadays. I really miss her.
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People like you are worse than the troons, you enable them by this "some of them can be good" stance--No, They're ALL fucked up because they try to redefine basic reality, just because they rip on tumblr faggots doesn't give them a pass, especially when you have a stance no real different from a tumblr faggot
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Respectfully disagree, but I still love you.
It is the old fashioned way of looking at troons and transitioning in general: ok, let's get you some therapy. If we can't smooth this out enough that it gets off your mind, we'll fool society and hope it works. Is it a good mentality? Probably not, but it is much, much more preferable to "I want hormones NOW NOW NOW" and getting that shit on demand along with a legion of asspatters. Gatekeeping so only the most extreme cases of dysphoria would subject themselves to such things is a better alternative than the now even if it isn't ideal.
I don't know if we should stop transitioning completely: there are success stories that keep a low profile as not to blow their cover even if others clock them. They are few and far between, and more research needs to be done on if it actually helps them or if something else is helping them within their treatment and social group. I think we should MASSIVELY FUCKING REDUCE transitioning though. We can't keep using youth as guinea pigs, we can't let the mentally ill and nerodivergent use it as a cult or a cure all, and we can't let perverts and porn sick men take their fetish to extremes or use it as a cover. You'd cut about 99.5% of the modern troons down with that alone. We can debate on whether or not the 0.5% exist of course, but I rather do that once we bump the rest off the goddamn spectrum (so we know it isn't just attention whoring or other maladjustment). If we gatekeep as much as possible we are sure to find out who's right.
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Gender dysphoria is just the same as body dysphoria, just different wording.
Usually, doctors with integrity do deny any surgery on those with body dysphoria. If it's okay for trannies to be guinea pigs. It should be okay to amputate legs, because you just feel like it.
What do frustrate me more than trannies getting their lives utterly destroyed with surgery. Is the fact people treat something that's essentially the same thing, as something different.
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Reminds me of this one giga nigga I knew when he was like 17-19 years old, in some game dev server. Would be super cool to voice chat with, and for some odd reason, he met a circle of troons from a certain Grand Strategy/RTS game. Would go on about pronouns and genders and stuff and have facecams on and of course complain about misgendering, making no effort to bring his voice any higher than mine, which I found funny. think he goes by she/it now.
I can't pretend to be that bent outta shape about it cause by the time he trooned out, I was kinda checked out mentally from our little group as it became fuller and fuller of troons. I don't get how you guys can hang around so many trannies and not lose your marbles knowing we think so much wrongthink and that we'd hafta find greener pastures if our tranny friends found out. How do you do it? Lots of troons tell me "Oh yeah, Pitaya Argbod is super based, they're cool with trans folx" when I'm just being polite to avoid the hassle.
Forgive the autistic ramblings.
I can't pretend to be that bent outta shape about it cause by the time he trooned out, I was kinda checked out mentally from our little group as it became fuller and fuller of troons. I don't get how you guys can hang around so many trannies and not lose your marbles knowing we think so much wrongthink and that we'd hafta find greener pastures if our tranny friends found out. How do you do it? Lots of troons tell me "Oh yeah, Pitaya Argbod is super based, they're cool with trans folx" when I'm just being polite to avoid the hassle.
Forgive the autistic ramblings.
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Let me explain this to you in a way that even a retard can understand. I have had to deal with literally dozens of troons, and only one is capable of acting like a human. This serves to reenforce my point: Troons are such garbage that a tranny acting like a normal person and not actively raping people is worth noting.
At what point do I defend big pharmas cult of cock chop?
NerdShamer
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You know, a good way of telling how retarded someone is can be usually solved by seeing when they made an account and how often they post.
Unless you're talking about people like Ryu289, then all bets are off.
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One day we will hopefully have a few types of pills and focus hard on therapy for gender dysphoria if there is one not caused by attention whoring, autism, mental illness, trauma, bandwagoning, and reeing. For now, until the main troon lobby is pantsed in front of the class, we have what we have and we'll look back cringing and sometimes crying, sadly. Being friends with a trans person who isn't a complete and utter fucking broken human or a complete shit head isn't that big of a sin in any capacity.
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Hey guys, it's me, back again with your monthly material about the thread's theme.
This is Sasha Ayad, she a psychiatrist who is working specially with teens thinking about transitioning and facing gender dysphoria.
inspiredteentherapy.com
Her approach is...effective in so many ways: she is caring and untreatening. It's not a TERF or a conservative speaking - no political battle to be won - but someone who is open to listen to the kids and is non confrontative. She is more focused on posing the right questions to them. There is no parent-tone of discourse, which encourages so many resistence from kids eager to call people transphobic or themselves oppressed. The goal is to prevent transition, but it is acknolowledge as the last resource ( = therapy persistently failed or wasn't tried in time), and therefore it should be gatekept.
This is her podcast and she brings other specialists to enhance discussions: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP62aWWtlZV1oVnbMhTRBcg
She is also in constant dialogue with detransitioners and seems to be commited to answer kindly to everybody.
Mobs have already come for her and this precise posture seems to invalidate their attempts to vilify her (makes me hopeful as hell to see women being firm and sweet and not only getting their point across but getting it across PRECISELY because of their posture, and not as a caracture of edgy boys in an intelectual vanity fair- a curse of our times even men feel like they have to emulate)
Some episodes that can be of interest in the face of the autism and other traces mentioned here:
Gender Dysphoria and ADHD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFY5AXmYP5w&t=2s
Gender Dysphoria and Autism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VGDWkuy_l4
Why do people seek a new identity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMgk_8gggs
GD in Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OruMEMgxhY8
GD in Males https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VdySAopgs
Exploratory therapy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFR6erxlHXo
As always, best luck with your acquaintainces and to yourselves, who dare to care about them.
This is Sasha Ayad, she a psychiatrist who is working specially with teens thinking about transitioning and facing gender dysphoria.
Inspired Teen Therapy | Therapy and Family Consultation for Adolescent-Onset Gender Issues
Counseling for gender-questioning teens and consultation for families affected by gender issues
Her approach is...effective in so many ways: she is caring and untreatening. It's not a TERF or a conservative speaking - no political battle to be won - but someone who is open to listen to the kids and is non confrontative. She is more focused on posing the right questions to them. There is no parent-tone of discourse, which encourages so many resistence from kids eager to call people transphobic or themselves oppressed. The goal is to prevent transition, but it is acknolowledge as the last resource ( = therapy persistently failed or wasn't tried in time), and therefore it should be gatekept.
This is her podcast and she brings other specialists to enhance discussions: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP62aWWtlZV1oVnbMhTRBcg
She is also in constant dialogue with detransitioners and seems to be commited to answer kindly to everybody.
Mobs have already come for her and this precise posture seems to invalidate their attempts to vilify her (makes me hopeful as hell to see women being firm and sweet and not only getting their point across but getting it across PRECISELY because of their posture, and not as a caracture of edgy boys in an intelectual vanity fair- a curse of our times even men feel like they have to emulate)
Some episodes that can be of interest in the face of the autism and other traces mentioned here:
Gender Dysphoria and ADHD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFY5AXmYP5w&t=2s
Gender Dysphoria and Autism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VGDWkuy_l4
Why do people seek a new identity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMgk_8gggs
GD in Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OruMEMgxhY8
GD in Males https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VdySAopgs
Exploratory therapy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFR6erxlHXo
As always, best luck with your acquaintainces and to yourselves, who dare to care about them.