Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I will say, from personal experience, that the American medical and mental health system is a shithole if you don't have a clear diagnois. So it's not even easy to get these guys into treatment - if they're even willing to admit they need to go.

I'm deadset on believing American doctors are either retarded or deathly afraid of giving you a diagnosis for fear of being sued. Probably both. All my doctors always go "Well it could be X, but we have to use an exclusionary diagnosis" and then proceed to order a shit ton of test of which half are useless. If you refuse "Well, go find another doctor I can't help you!"

Like nigga, I know I tore a joint ligament or straight up cracked a joint. I heard the damn thing tear off and felt it too! No need to do a god damn blood draw for the fucking flu....
Pretty sure it doesn't take a medical doctor to figure out when somethings wrong with the joint when it's swollen to the size of a grapefruit and the patients own testimony.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Like nigga, I know I tore a joint ligament or straight up cracked a joint. I heard the damn thing tear off and felt it too! No need to do a god damn blood draw for the fucking flu....
Pretty sure it doesn't take a medical doctor to figure out when somethings wrong with the joint when it's swollen to the size of a grapefruit and the patients own testimony.

Have you considered that you might have intact-ligament dysphoria ?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Have you considered that you might have intact-ligament dysphoria ?

No. Unfortunately it's called employee shortage (Muh covid) and "Go move that giant ass 700+ lbs object with a tractor yourself, no you can't get help because you're the only young person here since the other's all quit last week, oh and go dig a fucking deep hole with a hand shovel when you've got claypan for three feet".

 

[tetrahedronwombatshit]

My best friend was a tranny. A transwoman. TIM. Whatever you call him.
We met through a FB post, we were both talking shit about some religious stuff and pissing every spineless leftist off. We just clicked. We bonded over our love for zombie movies/games and spicy food. Resident Evil series was his favorite. Our friendship was online and we met only two times IRL. We were from the same country but he was living in the Netherlands.
He was a really reclusive person, he mostly had online friends, I don't know if he ever had outings even though he was 95% passing as a woman. He never really had any stable relationships after his transition. He was in constant paranoia that he'd be eventually outed as trans. He had massive body dysmorphia and he had at least 6 surgeries done in the last three years of his life.
My love and appreciation for him were never enough. He was beautiful, but that wasn't enough. He was kind, smart, thoughtful... again. NOT ENOUGH.
He got his browbone shave surgery in 2015. His surgeon fucked up his skull badly. He didn't just shave the fucking thing, he first removed the forehead portion of his skull, shaved it, then put it in place with screws. Of course, this procedure cut off all the blood supply to the bone. The bone deteriorated over time, screws got loose. He had to get a second surgery to replace the damaged portion of his skull with a titanium implant. He never recovered from that surgery. After months of pain, extreme swelling, bruises, and worsening mental health, my best friend took his own life. He had a falling out in July 2017 due to his paranoia and he died in October 2017. I was crushed. I don't really remember the year after his death to be honest.
He was one of the kindest people I've ever met. He's been dead more than I'd known him. I still miss him. I still love him.

I wanted to know what took him from me, so I studied neuroscience, psychology, endocrinology etc. Science peaked me. Now I know why my love was never enough.

 

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Sadly, almost all of my friends and family have gone down this road. Most have only gone as far as becoming handmaidens, but there's a not insignificant amount that have gone anywhere from shooting up hormones to getting the chop. I'll tell stories at some point as I have so, so many to tell.

Where did it all go so wrong?

 

[Slightly Apathetic Mario]

I knew a friend from my days when i played TF2 a lot, he was just some random guy from Maine i remember seeing in a 2fort server, me and him would talk a lot about life in general, and I remember him discussing his family situation. His mother was either bipolar or BPD and had a bad tendency of not taking her meds and his dad was a bum leeching off disability due to something in his legs. As time went on into 2019 he started getting into politics and had this extreme hatred of Capitalism and became obsessed with communism and anarchism, he would talk about how his therapist was evil and a "bigot" for trying to explain that trooning out is an extreme long term decision and that should be met with caution, and by the time COVID hit I think that pushed him over the edge, since he admitted to going to a "school for special students" (yet would get mad if you called it a retard school). and dropped out just mere weeks before he was set to graduate. And then he tried hitting on me to which I bluntly told him I didn't find sexual attraction in trannies to which he thew a fucking massive piss fit about me being a "transphobic' and that i was "not a real straight person" because he was a "totally valid wamen". At the near end of us talking he burnt nearly every bridge he had with other friends of his and went into like weird discord servers that fit his echo chamber. and finally working at a Domino's minimum wage, only fueling his hatred of the "evil capitalist system"

It was just utterly depressing watching this guy i knew for a few years prior just throw his life away and try to rationalize pressuring me to date him among other weird behavior.

I don't know where you are in life anymore, I don't even remember your online name but i want to say, you will never be a real woman

 

[glass_houses]

I knew a friend from my days when i played TF2 a lot, he was just some random guy from Maine i remember seeing in a 2fort server, me and him would talk a lot about life in general, and I remember him discussing his family situation. His mother was either bipolar or BPD and had a bad tendency of not taking her meds and his dad was a bum leeching off disability due to something in his legs. As time went on into 2019 he started getting into politics and had this extreme hatred of Capitalism and became obsessed with communism and anarchism, he would talk about how his therapist was evil and a "bigot" for trying to explain that trooning out is an extreme long term decision and that should be met with caution, and by the time COVID hit I think that pushed him over the edge, since he admitted to going to a "school for special students" (yet would get mad if you called it a retard school). and dropped out just mere weeks before he was set to graduate. And then he tried hitting on me to which I bluntly told him I didn't find sexual attraction in trannies to which he thew a fucking massive piss fit about me being a "transphobic' and that i was "not a real straight person" because he was a "totally valid wamen". At the near end of us talking he burnt nearly every bridge he had with other friends of his and went into like weird discord servers that fit his echo chamber. and finally working at a Domino's minimum wage, only fueling his hatred of the "evil capitalist system"

It was just utterly depressing watching this guy i knew for a few years prior just throw his life away and try to rationalize pressuring me to date him among other weird behavior.

I don't know where you are in life anymore, I don't even remember your online name but i want to say, you will never be a real woman

An autist with a BPD/bipolar parent trooned out... how strange, it seems so familiar, I wonder where I've seen that before?

 

[Slightly Apathetic Mario]

I'm deadset on believing American doctors are either retarded or deathly afraid of giving you a diagnosis for fear of being sued. Probably both. All my doctors always go "Well it could be X, but we have to use an exclusionary diagnosis" and then proceed to order a shit ton of test of which half are useless. If you refuse "Well, go find another doctor I can't help you!"

Like nigga, I know I tore a joint ligament or straight up cracked a joint. I heard the damn thing tear off and felt it too! No need to do a god damn blood draw for the fucking flu....
Pretty sure it doesn't take a medical doctor to figure out when somethings wrong with the joint when it's swollen to the size of a grapefruit and the patients own testimony.

To be honest, from hearing from my euro friends, their system is not much better, I remember one Danish friend of mine waiting like 8 months just for a simple therapist visit for his depression and helping him with his autism (his depression caused by childhood trauma and shit), and them making him do the same bullshit tests that american doctors will make you do. Ultimately deciding that he was too much of a burden for them and just ditched him. Also a German friend of mine have severe back pain and it took legit a year for him to even get set for a surgery for his back and had to wait another 3-4 months for said surgery shit and it got so bad to the point he was bed ridden for the last few months before his surgery.

Both the American and the Euro mental health system doesn't give a shit about people in legit need, they'll just use it as a way to extort more money. Americans may say "we get our visits faster/not waiting 10 months" while euros will go on about "muh free healthcare", when being honest both systems are complete shit, I feel I was semi lucky to have a decent doctor, but i know i'm in the minority of people. Seeing the mental health system just discared people with legit illness to chase after trooning people out (hell having people be gay is no longer enough anymore), just is depressing, knowing my danish friend crying from feeling like all had abandoned him and him just "wanting to be normal" (a common thing i've noticed in autistic people), and the fact some threapists, whether american or euro will try to use the mentally ill to groom them into weird gender shit is just digusting.

 

[Chromeo]

I recently re-lost the same friend to the trans cult and I'm so angry and sad. I've been avoiding looking at the chat log on Tumblr for this second time she split, but today I decided to be reckless and I screencapped it so everyone else could see it. I want to believe I'm not being unreasonable. (I'm green, she's pink.)

Spoiler

She acts like I'm just transphobic for funsies or whatever, like I saw an infographic on facebook and got spooked, like my concern for her well-being is just me attacking her because I'm a bigoted bully. She can't recognize how she hurt me as a friend by just up and vanishing the first time I disagreed with her, not letting me even respond or explain myself after she lashed out at me for being worried, AND NOW SHE'S DONE IT AGAIN.

We went months without talking and she finally came back to the Internet, and things were okay for a little while! I sent her posts and we had small, brief conversations on Tumblr, but she brought up the whole trans topic again and just wouldn't let it be something we disagree on. We disagree on fucking religion and politics, but this is where she draws the line??

And she's so cavalier about the whole thing that it absolutely doesn't inspire any confidence that she's taking this sincerely. If she could read her words through my eyes she'd know why I can't get behind this. "Hey Chromeo, I joined a body mod cult that preaches self-harm, sexual degeneracy, and has a 41% death rate! They've already helped me get on off-label cancer medication to permanently damage my body! Isn't that fantastic??" NO?? Anyone who genuinely cares about you should be horrified! As horrified as if you'd just joined Scientology or some shit! All she wants is someone who will blindly listen and accept every self-destructive decision she makes, and that's not a friend. That's a puppet.

(plus the whole "I WANT to go bald and look like my dad" just came out of nowhere, like...I never mentioned any of that? I don't care what she looks like, we're online friends for god's sake, who the fuck even brought that up? Cope, much???)

I don't think she'll come back a third time, but if she does...I think I'm gonna block her first. I can't keep thinking my friend's returned only to get an update on her self-destruction before she slaps my feelings in the face. I hate this trans cult, I hope some day it all comes crashing down and it stops taking my friends away from me.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

I recently re-lost the same friend to the trans cult and I'm so angry and sad. I've been avoiding looking at the chat log on Tumblr for this second time she split, but today I decided to be reckless and I screencapped it so everyone else could see it. I want to believe I'm not being unreasonable. (I'm green, she's pink.)

Spoiler

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She acts like I'm just transphobic for funsies or whatever, like I saw an infographic on facebook and got spooked, like my concern for her well-being is just me attacking her because I'm a bigoted bully. She can't recognize how she hurt me as a friend by just up and vanishing the first time I disagreed with her, not letting me even respond or explain myself after she lashed out at me for being worried, AND NOW SHE'S DONE IT AGAIN.

We went months without talking and she finally came back to the Internet, and things were okay for a little while! I sent her posts and we had small, brief conversations on Tumblr, but she brought up the whole trans topic again and just wouldn't let it be something we disagree on. We disagree on fucking religion and politics, but this is where she draws the line??

And she's so cavalier about the whole thing that it absolutely doesn't inspire any confidence that she's taking this sincerely. If she could read her words through my eyes she'd know why I can't get behind this. "Hey Chromeo, I joined a body mod cult that preaches self-harm, sexual degeneracy, and has a 41% death rate! They've already helped me get on off-label cancer medication to permanently damage my body! Isn't that fantastic??" NO?? Anyone who genuinely cares about you should be horrified! As horrified as if you'd just joined Scientology or some shit! All she wants is someone who will blindly listen and accept every self-destructive decision she makes, and that's not a friend. That's a puppet.

(plus the whole "I WANT to go bald and look like my dad" just came out of nowhere, like...I never mentioned any of that? I don't care what she looks like, we're online friends for god's sake, who the fuck even brought that up? Cope, much???)

I don't think she'll come back a third time, but if she does...I think I'm gonna block her first. I can't keep thinking my friend's returned only to get an update on her self-destruction before she slaps my feelings in the face. I hate this trans cult, I hope some day it all comes crashing down and it stops taking my friends away from me.

Really odd that she says she appreciates your concerns about her... Then blocks you flat-out.

 

[NerdShamer]

plus the whole "I WANT to go bald and look like my dad" just came out of nowhere, like...I never mentioned any of that? I don't care what she looks like, we're online friends for god's sake, who the fuck even brought that up? Cope, much???

So, who molested her in her childhood?

 

[AfghanBlue]

I recently re-lost the same friend to the trans cult and I'm so angry and sad. I've been avoiding looking at the chat log on Tumblr for this second time she split, but today I decided to be reckless and I screencapped it so everyone else could see it. I want to believe I'm not being unreasonable. (I'm green, she's pink.)

Spoiler

View attachment 4072296

She acts like I'm just transphobic for funsies or whatever, like I saw an infographic on facebook and got spooked, like my concern for her well-being is just me attacking her because I'm a bigoted bully. She can't recognize how she hurt me as a friend by just up and vanishing the first time I disagreed with her, not letting me even respond or explain myself after she lashed out at me for being worried, AND NOW SHE'S DONE IT AGAIN.

We went months without talking and she finally came back to the Internet, and things were okay for a little while! I sent her posts and we had small, brief conversations on Tumblr, but she brought up the whole trans topic again and just wouldn't let it be something we disagree on. We disagree on fucking religion and politics, but this is where she draws the line??

And she's so cavalier about the whole thing that it absolutely doesn't inspire any confidence that she's taking this sincerely. If she could read her words through my eyes she'd know why I can't get behind this. "Hey Chromeo, I joined a body mod cult that preaches self-harm, sexual degeneracy, and has a 41% death rate! They've already helped me get on off-label cancer medication to permanently damage my body! Isn't that fantastic??" NO?? Anyone who genuinely cares about you should be horrified! As horrified as if you'd just joined Scientology or some shit! All she wants is someone who will blindly listen and accept every self-destructive decision she makes, and that's not a friend. That's a puppet.

(plus the whole "I WANT to go bald and look like my dad" just came out of nowhere, like...I never mentioned any of that? I don't care what she looks like, we're online friends for god's sake, who the fuck even brought that up? Cope, much???)

I don't think she'll come back a third time, but if she does...I think I'm gonna block her first. I can't keep thinking my friend's returned only to get an update on her self-destruction before she slaps my feelings in the face. I hate this trans cult, I hope some day it all comes crashing down and it stops taking my friends away from me.

The bald/dad thing is cos she knows you've seen the KC Miller video and so has she.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

To be honest, from hearing from my euro friends, their system is not much better, I remember one Danish friend of mine waiting like 8 months just for a simple therapist visit for his depression and helping him with his autism (his depression caused by childhood trauma and shit), and them making him do the same bullshit tests that american doctors will make you do. Ultimately deciding that he was too much of a burden for them and just ditched him. Also a German friend of mine have severe back pain and it took legit a year for him to even get set for a surgery for his back and had to wait another 3-4 months for said surgery shit and it got so bad to the point he was bed ridden for the last few months before his surgery.

Both the American and the Euro mental health system doesn't give a shit about people in legit need, they'll just use it as a way to extort more money. Americans may say "we get our visits faster/not waiting 10 months" while euros will go on about "muh free healthcare", when being honest both systems are complete shit, I feel I was semi lucky to have a decent doctor, but i know i'm in the minority of people. Seeing the mental health system just discared people with legit illness to chase after trooning people out (hell having people be gay is no longer enough anymore), just is depressing, knowing my danish friend crying from feeling like all had abandoned him and him just "wanting to be normal" (a common thing i've noticed in autistic people), and the fact some threapists, whether american or euro will try to use the mentally ill to groom them into weird gender shit is just digusting.

When I say China has a "better" system of mental healthcare (read: None basically) than the current state of the US, you should be concerned. I just get the feeling US doctors don't give a shit regardless of who you pay to look at you.

My mother came down with Takotsubo cardiomyopathy recently (and had a mild heart attack?) after my grandfather got malpracticed to death and my grandmother ended her own life (They kept her in ICU and repeatedly intubating her while she was clearly not going to make it, I would've done the same thing) while she was in the middle of rural fucking nowhere. Some 70+ year old cardiologist went across some shitty wooden planks on a mountain range and walked about 5k to go see her with two interns. I'll never forget that.

She managed to diagnose it with no imaging equipment (We confirmed it once she felt comfortable enough to walk down), and said my mother didn't need to worry since it would heal so long as she spent time with family. She also bitched out the two useless interns because they didn't know the average heart rate for a post-menopause woman with stress lol.

 

[Slightly Apathetic Mario]

When I say China has a "better" system of mental healthcare (read: None basically) than the current state of the US, you should be concerned. I just get the feeling US doctors don't give a shit regardless of who you pay to look at you.

I wouldn't go that far, but i'll just say this
>be chink
>be depressed
>no mental help so you jump off a building/hang yourself

>be americunt/eurofag
>be depressed
>wait weeks for a basic threapist vist
>majority chance they will try to groom you into genderblob shit
>tell them to fuck off
>they ditch you
>start at square one

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I wouldn't go that far, but i'll just say this
>be chink
>be depressed
>no mental help so you jump off a building/hang yourself

>be americunt/eurofag
>be depressed
>wait weeks for a basic threapist vist
>majority chance they will try to groom you into genderblob shit
>tell them to fuck off
>they ditch you
>start at square one

I don't know what's worse. Existing but not living, or to die.
Both are horrible.

Back to troon talk. One of my old classmates from college troon out. Was originally the clown because they dressed in drag and was a flaming faggot but now identifies as woman despite having a 5 o'clock shadow.
I feel like it isn't far before there's a rape accusation...

 

[Luigi Cadorna]

So just had my first personal troon out incident. During my college years I used to hang out often with a friend of a friend. He was a completely normal, decent looking, but well below average height straight guy. I hadn't talked to him for years until I received a Snapchat photo of his pet out of the blue (apparently he meant to send it to someone else). Immediately I noticed his profile avatar was now that of a woman and when we started texting he quickly started talking about the "queer" neighborhood he's in and "queer" activities he enjoys. Later I got a video of the pet with him talking in the background with a clearly falsetto tranny voice (I never saw his face in these photos/videos). I'm not devastated by this, he wasn't a close friend or anything, but still just unfortunate to see. Maybe his short stature got to him with some combination of some unknown porn addiction but I'll never know for sure. I haven't brought any of this up with the friend I met him through but the fact I hadn't heard about this guy in years from him tells me he might have burned a lot of bridges in his transition. Oh well I guess. I hope he sees the errors in his way but we all know he won't.

 

[Atreus]

I constantly think about a very close friend of mine. Her and I grew up together and to be honest I liked her for years while growing up. Our families weren't close, but we had been friends since grade school and we would even spend Halloween together trick or treating a lot as kids. Growing up she also lived in the richer of neighborhood right next to mine and she had moved from the state beside ours. Let's just call her Mickey.


Growing up she was this massive Tomboy and my best friend and we just had this audacity to get ourselves into trouble doing edgy stuff, think typical guy best friend and alt girl from high school. In middle school we drifted apart, but one day I nearly got my ass kicked in high school at an assembly and I ran into her again by chance and we just talked and clicked again like that. Mickey had came out as a Trans guy though and at the time as a Freshman I saw it as nothing more than an emo type thing and didn't think much of it too much, I just thought it was just pronouns right?

Despite this at first we were making the same off color remarks and statements with each other like nothing had ever happened again and I started taking her bus home. We would just shoot the shit constantly and eventually we would start talking on Discord to. We would pull these all nighters just talking on Discord and than going to school. We sleep as soon as we got home, wake up, do our homework and chat from dusk until dawn then repeat! Sometimes we would just ditch and go get donuts and coffee in the morning and shoot the shit for hours around town! However eventually we just stopped talking as I eventually got deemed "Transphobic" and outside of some hearsay from mutuals during the pandemic that he had some really bad mental health issues. I eventually moved so we lost touch permanently and I found out before senior year ended that she had killed herself and it fucking destroyed me.

I understand some of why she transitioned. One time when snuck drinks and went to this park and drank at night and she just held onto me and proceeded to pour her heart out. She had a shitty step father and I asked about what happened to her real one. As a kid her real father had molested her and her sister for years and she was apparently also in really bad child protective services for years before she moved and we ended up attending the same schools. I distinctly remember her telling me as well that she used to prey to Jesus Christ every night that she would wake up as a boy and I can't help but think that she may have internalized it to the point that if she was born a boy maybe her father never would have molested her. Her older sister isn't better off either btw. Not a troon, but not good.

I also found out that despite the fact she had other boyfriends that according to a different mutual she was in love with me to and thought of me often, but was upset I started to imply her being a Trans man was a phase and the fact that as a kid due to my own circumstances I always had the idea in my head of eventually starting a family. She also thought I wouldn't of liked her because I wasn't gay.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know I definitely fucked up in not playing along with it in some degree, but what really upsets me is the fact that I basically lost one of my best friends to transgenderism to some degree. I miss her so much and recently I just can't get her out of my mind.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I constantly think about a very close friend of mine. Her and I grew up together and to be honest I liked her for years while growing up. Our families weren't close, but we had been friends since grade school and we would even spend Halloween together trick or treating a lot as kids. Growing up she also lived in the richer of neighborhood right next to mine and she had moved from the state beside ours. Let's just call her Mickey.


Growing up she was this massive Tomboy and my best friend and we just had this audacity to get ourselves into trouble doing edgy stuff, think typical guy best friend and alt girl from high school. In middle school we drifted apart, but one day I nearly got my ass kicked in high school at an assembly and I ran into her again by chance and we just talked and clicked again like that. Mickey had came out as a Trans guy though and at the time as a Freshman I saw it as nothing more than an emo type thing and didn't think much of it too much, I just thought it was just pronouns right?

Despite this at first we were making the same off color remarks and statements with each other like nothing had ever happened again and I started taking her bus home. We would just shoot the shit constantly and eventually we would start talking on Discord to. We would pull these all nighters just talking on Discord and than going to school. We sleep as soon as we got home, wake up, do our homework and chat from dusk until dawn then repeat! Sometimes we would just ditch and go get donuts and coffee in the morning and shoot the shit for hours around town! However eventually we just stopped talking as I eventually got deemed "Transphobic" and outside of some hearsay from mutuals during the pandemic that he had some really bad mental health issues. I eventually moved so we lost touch permanently and I found out before senior year ended that she had killed herself and it fucking destroyed me.

I understand some of why she transitioned. One time when snuck drinks and went to this park and drank at night and she just held onto me and proceeded to pour her heart out. She had a shitty step father and I asked about what happened to her real one. As a kid her real father had molested her and her sister for years and she was apparently also in really bad child protective services for years before she moved and we ended up attending the same schools. I distinctly remember her telling me as well that she used to prey to Jesus Christ every night that she would wake up as a boy and I can't help but think that she may have internalized it to the point that if she was born a boy maybe her father never would have molested her. Her older sister isn't better off either btw. Not a troon, but not good.

I also found out that despite the fact she had other boyfriends that according to a different mutual she was in love with me to and thought of me often, but was upset I started to imply her being a Trans man was a phase and the fact that as a kid due to my own circumstances I always had the idea in my head of eventually starting a family. She also thought I wouldn't of liked her because I wasn't gay.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know I definitely fucked up in not playing along with it in some degree, but what really upsets me is the fact that I basically lost one of my best friends to transgenderism to some degree. I miss her so much and recently I just can't get her out of my mind.

I'm so sorry, dude. that's awful, and sad as hell.

but know that you didnt fuck up. you were her friend and you were honest to yourself and that's all anyone can be.

more honesty from others maybe would have helped, but whatever the case, its not on you at all, its on her shitbag disgusting father and its tragic that this shit just goes on and on.

 

[MS-09R Rick Dom]

Guy I knew from highschool transitioned. He was a bit of a dick and definitely a weirdo in highschool. Fit the description of computer nerd/programmer that's a bit too into anime and programming socks before that became a thing. After the transition he became obnoxious and very argumentative. Then he fell off the face of the planet.
Honestly never thought about looking into him until I seen this thread

 

[blanketdog]

My first post here; got a kind referral from @saltinedream in the SRS horrors thread , thank you for that. I’ll probably just post my latest grievances here and delve into the past later if it feels like I need to get more shit off my chest.

The world is experiencing shortages of several types due to all kinds of shit, we all know that. Leave it up to troons to feel like their shit is the most serious and life threatening crisis. I’m just so sick of that, the conflating of troon “issues” with actual problems. I used to feel empathy for my FTM friend but I’m way past my limit. Cost of living going up and falling further into poverty? Sometimes have issues budgeting for (medical stuff) I’d rather live without but doing so would make me live with (horrible, quality of life destroying symptoms I’ve done my best to treat otherwise). So, survivable but not ideal. I can’t ever complain about this anymore because the troon will be like ugh same while saying she doesn’t have all the money necessary to get her testosterone for the month. Fuck that. That is a choice you made. There’s also shortages of prescription medication that can be life-threatening to people. I’m fortunately not dependent on those - however there are drugs that you can’t just quit cold turkey (one group being epilepsy treating benzodiazepines which are also used for a multitude of other conditions) without getting severe withdrawal symptoms which include but are not limited to fucking SEIZURES. Oh no, troon can’t get her T? Totally just as serious. I even googled this, thinking maybe there are severe side effects of quitting T cold turkey but nah - excluding of course the eternal “quitting makes me feel bad because my gender feels”. No. I hope T ruins you even further.

Soz for all the rage and PL, I’ll leave this here and be on my way. Reading y’all’s posts on the background.